I don't like the after show because it kind of ruins the reunion. Of course, with twitter and vevmo, I guess everything gets ruined anyway, haha.
Obviously they are not cool with each other.
I'd probably believe Frank, but he seems pretty vocal on Twitter about who he hates so either something happened between the after show and now or he's lying.
[QUOTE=Costanza;282177]Personally, I think Frank is coming extremely poorly. As much as Zach can be a jerk, I have to side with him on this.[/QUOTE]
Frank was bad casting, or good casting. It depends on how you look at it.
Zach has many good points that couldn't be made if Frank wasn't such a violent, drunk lush (in the episodes thus far.)
Zach probably doesn't like Frank because he sleeps with men. Frank is a drunk ******* and thus that is why Zach doesn't like Frank.
So instead of the conversation being about a possible root cause (gay/bi lifestyle) we have a conversation about Frank being a drunk ******* (which [I]is[/I] reason to dislike him.)
Looks like a wash to me.
I think that Frank makes himself look worse by constantly taking shots at Zach. If Frank just sat back and let the show do its job and make Zach look ignorant or close minded, his point would be made for him. I don't like when people push their beliefs on other people, regardless if they're conservative or liberal. Zach really doesn't comment much on Frank's lifestyle but then you have Frank saying stuff about Zach and Ashley and their "midwestern fantasy" or whatever. I honestly don't think Frank would look like the bad guy at all if he just shut his mouth and let Zach make himself look stupid.
[QUOTE=JL81790;282183]I think that Frank makes himself look worse by constantly taking shots at Zach. If Frank just sat back and let the show do its job and make Zach look ignorant or close minded, his point would be made for him. I don't like when people push their beliefs on other people, regardless if they're conservative or liberal. Zach really doesn't comment much on Frank's lifestyle but then you have Frank saying stuff about Zach and Ashley and their "midwestern fantasy" or whatever. I honestly don't think Frank would look like the bad guy at all if he just shut his mouth and let Zach make himself look stupid.[/QUOTE]
You are so right. Zach might come off looking a lot worse in this situation if Frank wasn't such a psycho. Instead, compared to Frank's unstable freak outs, Zach looks like the chillest guy ever.
It bothers the hell out of me when Zach came on stage, called Frank out about calling him dumb, and Frank instantly starts saying it was a joke. Cleary, or IMO, it was not a joke and he was dead serious. The one thing I admired about Frank was that he always says exactly what he means and the fact that he started saying "Zach, you know...I was joking" just seemed like a total ***** move.
[QUOTE=InfamousJoks;282214]It bothers the hell out of me when Zach came on stage, called Frank out about calling him dumb, and Frank instantly starts saying it was a joke. Cleary, or IMO, it was not a joke and he was dead serious. The one thing I admired about Frank was that he always says exactly what he means and the fact that he started saying "Zach, you know...I was joking" just seemed like a total ***** move.[/QUOTE]
Of course Frank is scared of Zach dudes pretty big lol Frank would try to slap him and run away
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;282239]I seriously doubt Frank is scared of Zach and his girl panties but to each there own.[/QUOTE]
Frank said that he was scared of Zach on the after show.
[QUOTE=InfamousJoks;282214]It bothers the hell out of me when Zach came on stage, called Frank out about calling him dumb, and Frank instantly starts saying it was a joke. Cleary, or IMO, it was not a joke and he was dead serious. The one thing I admired about Frank was that he always says exactly what he means and the fact that he started saying "Zach, you know...I was joking" just seemed like a total ***** move.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I also hate Chet as a host. He is so unnatural as a host.
This After Show made me like Nate a whole lot more. The dude seems so chill. He seems like an awesome person to chill and hang out with.
I wouldnt use the word dumb to describe Zach. He is really closed minded and really seems set in his ways. I didnt get why he was so hung up on the whole dumb comment but thats just me. It's clear that these two are not friends and honestly I dont think they ever will be.
I thought Frank came off worse than Zach did. Took his shots at him when he was backstage and then shied away from them when Zach came out and said it was all jokes....right.
