[QUOTE=townie;266225]LMAO, I'd LOVE to see Abe do anything to CT. CT would rip his head off and shove it up his *** so fast it'd make Cara Maria's head spin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=townie;266232]CT isn't about to waste his time going on a wild goose chase looking for Abe's little compound out in the hills of Bum **** Egypt, Montana to hunt him down. His feelings about Abe are right there on camera for Abe to see, and if Abe wants to do something about it, he knows where to find him.[/QUOTE]
It's nice to have posters here who know the cast members and can offer insights, but you're veering into the territory of being the yappy friend who tosses around a lot of big talk that someone else is supposed to back up. I agree that CT could beat Abram in a fight, but these comments can only serve to escalate tensions if you are indeed friends with some of these people. I can't imagine CT wants you trying to pick fights for him.
[QUOTE=kristalie;266280]I wish people would shut up about the unfair advantage. Duh, it's rigged. After the verbal and physical with Jenn abuse Cara Maria got, she deserved to have it rigged. I truly am disgusted about how they treated her. I can't wait to see the reunion.[/QUOTE]
How did CM deserve to have the show rigged in her favor? Just because you are disgusted doesn't call for production to completely botch the game up the way they did.
[QUOTE=kristalie;266280]I wish people would shut up about the unfair advantage. Duh, it's rigged. After the verbal and physical with Jenn abuse Cara Maria got, she deserved to have it rigged. I truly am disgusted about how they treated her. I can't wait to see the reunion.[/QUOTE]Jasmine and Jonna deserve to be robbed of their chance at the Finals because Cara Maria got in a fight with Jenn?
That was push was nothing. Why would Jenn be sent home for that? It would've been stupid if she was sent home. Puck spit on David and David spit on Puck and they both stayed (David quit after). The men choke each other and wrestle and they stay. CT pushed David on The Inferno 1 when he was ****** and he stayed..etc.
Production shouldn't force them all to go out. Before if you wanted to stay in, you could. Cara Maria was obviously forced to go clubbing even though she didn't want to so she just sat by herself.
I didn't say that the CT/Wes fight happened on the first night, and I **** sure didn't say it was because of KellyAnne. I just said that CT viewed Wes as a total coward for something that happened in the past where Wes sent CT emails from her account talking smack towards him.
And a big reason why he thinks Abe is a punk is because he constantly spouts off his "holier than thou" **** down everybody's throat and makes himself seem like he's cut from some sort of cloth that is far too good for reality TV. When in reality, nobody would care who he was or about his stupid little book without his reality TV past. On the Cutthroat reunion he basically ripped everybody for their character flaws and drunken stupidity, then gets arrested himself a short time later for being a drunken idiot in public. He said the same thing in his phone conversation with Cara Maria too. When he was the same age as most of the current castmembers, he was doing more stupid drunken **** and being a bigger blatant ******* to other people than anybody. The guy is just a complete & utter phony and hypocrite in every sense of the word and it's ridiculous to hear him talk as if he has the same moral fiber within him as Jesus himself or some ****.
[QUOTE=townie;266294]And a big reason why he thinks Abe is a punk is because he constantly spouts off his "holier than thou" **** down everybody's throat and makes himself seem like he's cut from some sort of cloth that is far too good for reality TV. When in reality, nobody would care who he was or about his stupid little book without his reality TV past. On the Cutthroat reunion he basically ripped everybody for their character flaws and drunken stupidity, then gets arrested himself a short time later for being a drunken idiot in public. He said the same thing in his phone conversation with Cara Maria too. When he was the same age as most of the current castmembers, he was doing more stupid drunken **** and being a bigger blatant ******* to other people than anybody. The guy is just a complete & utter phony and hypocrite in every sense of the word and it's ridiculous to hear him talk as if he has the same moral fiber within him as Jesus himself or some ****.[/QUOTE]
Yes and fighting with CM about it tonight is such a good idea! CT can have the biggest beef with Abram all he wants but what was the point of yelling at CM about it while she was arguing with someone else? You defend every little thing CT does as if he couldn't do anything wrong. Just admit it, the way CT talked to CM and jumping into something that has nothing to do with him was wrong. How was it not wrong? If he has a problem with Abram, why take it up with his girlfriend? Why not handle it with Abram? And before you take that as me saying fight Abram, I mean, be an adult and talk to him about it. If it's not worth talking about then it's not worth fighting about. If you come back at that with "CT WOULD HULK SMASH ABRAM INTO A MILLION PIECES!!!! RAWRRR!!!!" then you obviously don't know what handling it like an adult means.
[QUOTE=infamous;266285]How did CM deserve to have the show rigged in her favor? Just because you are disgusted doesn't call for production to completely botch the game up the way they did.[/QUOTE]
Nah you're right. If what happened prior didn't happen, I'd agree but I just feel so bad for her and even Laurel that I'm glad they rigged it. Just like Big Brother is rigged sometime with diary room influences, but it's usually in favor of people I like so I don't mind lol
[QUOTE=jhl182;266293][B]That was push was nothing. Why would Jenn be sent home for that? It would've been stupid if she was sent home. Puck spit on David and David spit on Puck and they both stayed (David quit after). The men choke each other and wrestle and they stay. CT pushed David on The Inferno 1 when he was ****** and he stayed..etc.[/B]
Production shouldn't force them all to go out. Before if you wanted to stay in, you could. Cara Maria was obviously forced to go clubbing even though she didn't want to so she just sat by herself.[/QUOTE]
According to CM on formspring, Jenn "went mental after the club scene too and high kicked me in the face pretty much too."
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;266311]According to CM on formspring, Jenn "went mental after the club scene too and high kicked me in the face pretty much too."[/QUOTE]
CT and Cara Maria start yelling at eachother and somehow Abram's name gets involved, Cara screams Abram would **** CT up cause he's ******* crazy (he prolly would, because he really is ******* crazy ^^ ) and while she walks back Jenn comes charging in like a rhino through laurel and pushes Cara.
Wow i really enjoyed last night's episode. The challenge sucked, but that has more to do with production than the cast. Now on to the real stuff...
1) Jenn and her alliance with JEK are pathetic.Her cockiness and sense of entitlement is out of control. There is problem with these challenges, since they all know who is going to be there and make deals beforehand. The veterans always has an bujilt-in advantage because of this. The way they protect their own is entertaining yet sickeningly repeatitive. I do give Jenn credit fro not finishing last in any challenge, but let be honest if jonna and jasmine or Paula Ev had lost they wouldn't have been voted in anyway.
2) That is what caused the tension between Laurel and CT. They both (rightfully so) were questioning each others loyalties. Laurel is mad at CT because she wrongfully blames him for being at the **** end of her alliance. CT knows she will side with Wes/Kenny and Johnny/Tyler before she will him putting him at the bottom the guys ladder. If they were smart they would have realized with Mike/LeRoy and Jonna/Jasmine they would have the numbers, but once again the pregame alliance Laurel had with Wes and JEK takes precedence over smart gameplay (along with their mutual distrust)
3) Don't care how hard it was or wasn't , the rules say you don't violently lay your hands on another person. Jenn did this. it isn't like Adam R. really hit Ty that well either. Adam went home. Jenn should've gone home. Just like these players are hypocrites production is hypocritical as well.
4) CT has a problem with alcohol and violence. Not a shock almost everyone does but almost all his fights come when he is intoxicated (Adam, Davis, probably Wes, and definitely CM). When not drunk CT seems pretty cool.
5) I don't think the Jungle was rigged. While I certainly do not like repeating a Jungle when no others had been repeated, BMP normally puts a physical Jungle at the end to get the players to have to push and prove they deserve to be in the finals. blast off just happened to be the most physical Jungle they had. It sucks that the smallest female team had to go against the biggest. I'm sure production wasn't happy how that Jungle turned out either.
Jenn = the new Veronica? (in the sense that she becomes the bully everyone loves to hate.) I don't think she's quite as bad as Veronica...yet. But the way she had the whole house on her side was really Veronica-esque.
CM = the new Tonya?
I dislike everyone who was involved in this drama after this episode, Cara Maria included.
Everyone else covered why Jenn is a complete ****** this episode, but I really don't like the way Cara Maria handled herself either. It's easy to side with Cara Maria because she comes off as this weak little girl, but she stirred the pot when she didn't have to.
(1) It was good that Cara Maria brought up the double standard of Laurel/CT vs. Jenn/Adam, but CM should have dropped it when it was clear it was a no-starter for everyone else in the alliance. The fact is, the mob trusts Jenn (and Adam!) more than Laurel. I don't understand why CM had to keep bringing the issue up, especially at the club. As a chick, nothing is more annoying than another chick making a big issue out of who you're hooking up with.
(2) I also don't understand why CM is calling out Jenn/Mandi out of the blue. Has CM never watched any previous challenges? Jenn had it much rougher early in her challenge career than CM and has a much more impressive elimination round record than CM. Only fairly recently has Jenn "skated" into the final. It's also hypocritical to think that Jenn/Mandi were less deserving of a spot in the final when CM's team has DQ'ed more.
(3) After CM's phone call with Abe, why did she feel the need to confront Jenn in the kitchen? Jenn clearly looked stupid, let her be stupid and leave it at that. CM wasn't "standing up" for herself because she had nothing substantive to say to Jenn. It seemed like she only wanted to confront Jenn is make fun of her (although I did LOL pretty hard when she imitated Jenn's clapping motion).
I don't think anyone was the "victim" here. Jenn is a psycho, Cara Maria is a whiny brat, and the rest of the mob are a bunch of thugs. What a ****** episode.
Did anyone else laugh really hard when Kenny imitated Cara Maria, with her fake hair? I was laughing hard.
I guess people are starting to really dislike Jenn and her "bullying". I personally think she's just playing the game, and has a strong personality, like past strong females (Coral, veronica and even Katie). Obviously a lot was left on the cutting room floor b/w Jenn and Cara Maria. A lot more was said and done b/w them, before the club.
I like Cara Maria and I think she is a strong competitor, but they are definitely making her look really innocent.
[QUOTE=townie;248271]I think the CT/Wes altercation takes place the first night they are there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=townie;247834]CT's been waiting 5 years to knock Wes' **** in the dirt on one of these things. Back when he & K.A. were dating, CT would receive these weird emails from Kelly Anne ...[/QUOTE]
I get that you want to defend CT's "thug personality" but why defend someone who doesn't even defend themselves? To this day, he takes full responsibility for the Adam Duel 2 fight. He did so again on The Miz's after show. He hasn't mentioned Adam thrashing him behind his back for years. If CT had this five year grudge against Wes, why would they be so chumming after the "altercation" and during the after show.
[QUOTE=townie;266232]Abram was the one who ran his mouth off about CT behind his back when he did some appearances out here last year.[/QUOTE]
I'm inclined to believe Cara Maria:
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Especially if CT was so quick to apologize. He knew he was wrong:
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The whole thing was CT's drunken thug persona coming out to play and has nothing to do with things that happened off the show just like the whole Wes ordeal:
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I'm over Jenn's attitude and I have been since FM2. She needs to go have a seat somewhere.
I also don't think the Jungle was rigged. I'm not suprised that a previous elimination round was repeated; production tends to do that.
It sucked to see Jonna and Jasmine leave. I really liked them and wanted to see them compete in a final.
1. CM has to be the most over-emotional whiny people I think I've seen on the recent challenges. She needs to honestly******* up. You're on a reality tv show.
2. Regardless of any circumstances, if it were to come down to it, everyone knows C.T. would kill Abram, though I could see Abram stabbing the **** out of someone.
3. Yes, C.T. knows he's wrong for having that bully mentality. Just because he [b]can[/b] do something to someone, doesn't mean he should, or will, or let alone should even go around saying things about it.
It's just a bunch of nonsense to me on CM's part and nobody should expect any different out of C.T. on TV.
I cannot believe these people made me root for LAUREL! What. the. ****.
This challenge has solidified the fact that I do not like Jenn. I was always on the fence, but she's officially on my **** list. Did she seriously say "It's called status" unironically? Ugh. Get over yourself Jenn. I don't even love Cara Maria but her impression of Jenn with the slap/clapping was AWESOME.
I was bummed to see Jonna and Jasmine leave. I would actually rather they won than CM/Laurel normally but I also kind of loved how ****** off it made everybody that the latter two won. Plus, now this makes Jenn's chances of winning even slimmer. I do kind of like Mandi though. I'm actually rooting for Paula/Ev though.
[QUOTE=Insider;266262]She did hit her. I wonder if there are rules to how hard one has to be hit to leave... She definitely had intention to hurt her. It appeared that she only slapped lightly because she was being pulled away.[/QUOTE]
The situation appears no different that the Tonya/Veronica incident from The Ruins. I think BMP and MTV will have some explaining to do.
-After reading this, I'm a little conflicted about the Jenn/CM fight. It's completely hypocritical that Laurel gets yelled at by the mob for talking to CT, while Jenn sleeps in Adam's bed every night, and gets no ****.
- After Jenn says she'll only pay attention to Adam when shes drunk. Sorry Adam, but Jenn only sleeps in your bed for the attention(IMO). Overall, Jenn is just annyoing. Although it's a smart game to play to ever go into an elimination round, however, that's obviously going to make people resent you, especially when they have to go in twice(CM and Laurel).
- Am I the only one surprised that Laurel and Cara Maria were bullied, and that everyone wore blue shirts to the jungle. I thought more of the group would be indifferent. Wanting Laurel and CM to go home because they were a bigger threat, but not having that much against them personally, to wear JJs colors.
-Production, if you keep pulling stuff like this, you are going to lose viewers because its makes the show less real and more rigged. Blast off was stupid, and theres no reason that they couldnt have had a new jungle like every other week.
-On the preview when we hear Wes on his interview talking about how it is ******* him off that Kenny is smiling while spraying him with the hose, did anyone else expect that there was going to be a fight between them? I hate how previews make things out to be bigger deals than they are.
[url=http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2011/08/03/the-challenge-rivals-jenn-cara-maria-fight]Jenn vs. Cara Maria: Whose Side Are You On? MTV Remote Control Blog[/url]
Jenn vs Cara Maria: Who's side are you on? Cara Maria is winning 78% to 22% lol
I felt so bad for Jasmine and Jonna. I was really pulling for them the entire challenge. I was really hoping that they would make it to the final challenge. That would've been awesome. But they had no chance at that jungle. That was such a random and weird jungle to have, at that moment. Makes you wonder
That whole fight was just beyond ridiculous. Was Jenn serious?? First off lets be real, she made it that far based on her friends not anything she has done. I find it funny, that on every challenge Jenn has been on whenever someone mentions her going in to that elimination round she loses her head. Like what is she so afraid of? 2nd, unless my eyes were deceiving me, was Jenn not sleeping next to Adam in his bed?? CM never said that they were doing the deed. And then that whole ' status' thing, I was like she cannot be for real. This episode just made Jenn look dumb.
I usually love CT but when he argued with CM it was just unnecessary. It is what it is, but he didnt have to do that.
I cannot believe that I actually..*gulp was cheering for Laurel a little bit there. I never thought I'd see the day. But I felt bad for her how everyone just turned on the poor girl. It was like they were in junior high. Like what is SO bad about talking to CT?? I just do not get it. Its like they are so scared of him. Its quite comical.
This next challenge looks intense. Like REALLY intense. I really REALLY hope that CT and Adam and Leroy and Mike makes it to the finals. they are both the only two teams I really wanna see take it
Wow, this was a really good episode. The best one so far IMO. My opinion of soooo many people changed after this episode:
Jenn- I have always liked Jenn and her "in your face" attitude. I also have always defended the way she plays the game, mostly due to the fact of how she was treated on her first few challenges(Inferno 3 and Duel 2). But last night I lost a LOT of respect for her.
CT- CT was a complete idiot. All he had to do was make a deal with Laurel that if he voted her way this time, that she would have to vote his way next time. But nooooo, he just said **** it, and now has lost Jasmine/Jonna as a vote for him. Whereas, he would've gained Laurel/Cara Maria's vote as well as J/J, L/M and E/P(?). He pretty much just guaranteed that he gets sent in for the last elimination now. Also his arguements with Cara Maria were petty and out of line.
Cara Maria- I LOVED her last night. I loved how after getting off the phone with Abe, she walked into the kitchen and confronted Jenn and her minions. You could tell Cara Maria's "baiting" Jenn was really getting under Jenn's skin.
Tyler- Just shutup. Thanks.
-Funny how whenever a girl complains to Kenny about supporting them, every so often he sides with them.
-Who's Wes?
-Evelyn... I like the way she separates herself from the drama
-Jenn always ****** me off
-Why couldn't Leroy and Mike vote for Mandi/Jenn? I'm sure Kenny was conflicted, Why couldn't Jonna and Jasmine vote in Mandi/Jenn? Why couldn't Paula/Ev vote for Mandi/Jenn? Ct probably didnt have a choice either. Laurel should have just convinced Kenny to vote with her. Okay so JB didn't want to upset Jenn??? Just like Tyler didn't want to? Well, it's obvious why Wes didn't want Mandi gone, but other than that What else was holding them back??? Kenny didn't want to upset JB? Whatever, we will see which is the last male team to go, I hope JB and Tyler disqualify or lose in the jungle, but the chances of that are 0.000001% I just want Paula/Ev to win (sorry Laurel and CM), and Leroy/Mike to win (Sorry Kenny and CT).
I'm new, but I ALWAYS watched the challenges. My thoughts are:
I can't stand Jenn she is a *****, and I could have sworn she was gay, but whatever. What she did to CM wasn't right. In fact, **** near the whole house was wrong for treating laurel and CM the way they did. CT irked me in this episode by how he was treating CM. And I fell in love with Kenny when he decided to support CM and Laural lol. But I didn't want to see jasmine and Joanna go because they did good for rookies and I wish it would have been jenn and that whiney chick Mandi to go in. And to me they act like they were scared to be put in the juggle, *****es if this is how crazy you guys are going to act when someone even thinks about trying to put you in the juggle, ya'll are going to have a freaking panic attack when it comes to the final challenge because we all know the challenges are going to be worst on the final one.
THe whole Mandi/Wes now hooking up and flirting is like OK on to the next i guess? I don't care at all about either so hook up, don't, whatever gets you the most camera time i guess. Mandi hates CT now based on Brandon's recent show with her and what she has said after.
SHe says she is close with Wes though outside of the show, so he probably talks a lot of **** about him and clealry she was hurt/jealous when CT paid attention to Laurel. She may say it wasn't jealousy, but it clearly was. Not a Mandi fan really after this season, she seems to go down the same path with guys on the show, Chet, CT, Wes, etc.
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