[QUOTE=JayTee;258553][B]How did CT make himself look stupid when he asked Wes if he wanted to send him home so he wouldn't support his family and Wes said he wanted to send him home because of that ?
That sounds pretty personal to me .[/B]Wes is a little girl, never gotten into a fist fight, from what I hear at my college which he attended (ASU arizona state university) .[/QUOTE]
Honestly, that shouldn't matter. I'm a CT fan and i hate Wes, but nobody should have to bow down to CT because of his family. Yeah, it would be nice for CT to bring money home to his family, but everyone there wants money. I would still want to compete for the money knowing someone else really was in need of it. He asked Wes if he wanted to send him in and then started saying stuff about taking bread off his families table and Wes said he would. It can sound harsh, but how else are you supposed to answer that? CT shouldn't be taking it personally or making it personal. I felt the same way with Diem on The Duel. Just becuase she had cancer and probably had bills doesn't mean every other girl was responbile and should let her win for it. But i'm still team CT no matter what.
[QUOTE=JayTee;258553]How did CT make himself look stupid when he asked Wes if he wanted to send him home so he wouldn't support his family and Wes said he wanted to send him home because of that ?
That sounds pretty personal to me .
Wes is a little girl, never gotten into a fist fight, from what I hear at my college which he attended (ASU arizona state university) .[/QUOTE]
he did not ask wes if he wanted to send him home so he could not support his family...he said You gonna send ME home and take money from my family...to which wes replies yes...Like yes I am going to send you home...not I want to send you home because he does not want CTs family to have money.
I love how some of you turn it around on Wes...
If I'm not mistaken CT confronted Kenny/Wes earlier on and said, "I'm gunning for you" and "you have a bad day you're going in." So now he asks Wes if they're going to throw him in and he says yes so CT goes ape****. I can't wait until this meathead finally peaces out.
[QUOTE=jojorules;258547]If Wes was all man, backing up his talk, he and Kenny would be going in against CT/Adam, not Evan/nehemiah.. Wes is pure BS/manipulation. Ct called him out on it.
Sure 7 hrs of it is extreme, but people there who were looking back on twitter/podcasts, etc, seemed to think that he needed to be dropped down a notch. It depends what Wes really said, which with the edit we won't know. Ct brought up how Wes was saying he would beat him in a jungle and was running on the show and this and that. The fact that they got Evan to volunteer somehow makes me think he didn't want any part of CT.[/QUOTE]
Haha are you kidding? Wes/Kenny go in the jungle to get rid of CT? Believe it or not but Wes isn't that dumb but Evan sure is, same thing happened on the duel lol, they're playing Evan. I heard Wes say he wants to go in a jungle with CT but CT was saying that Wes told him that he ran the show which he is cause he has the numbers and that the only reason CT wasn't in the jungle last time was cause he win the challenge, that's also obvious so I don't know why he flipped out about that. And he said the same thing to Kenny/Wes on the 1st episode and they didn't go nuts like he did.
[QUOTE=Blue123;258567]Haha are you kidding? Wes/Kenny go in the jungle to get rid of CT? Believe it or not but Wes isn't that dumb but Evan sure is, same thing happened on the duel lol, they're playing Evan. I heard Wes say he wants to go in a jungle with CT but CT was saying that Wes told him that he ran the show which he is cause he has the numbers and that the only reason CT wasn't in the jungle last time was cause he win the challenge, that's also obvious so I don't know why he flipped out about that. And he said the same thing to Kenny/Wes on the 1st episode and they didn't go nuts like he did.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, Wes said he wants to go in against him but its pure BS. Just like anything Wes says.
[QUOTE=jojorules;258571]Exactly, Wes said he wants to go in against him but its pure BS. Just like anything Wes says.[/QUOTE]
He was probably trying to mess with him, which is apparently really easy to do. No need to get mad over that, it's not illegal to say I want to go in a jungle against CT or that you want CT out. Then CT was like you're saying I am scared, if you're not scared why are you flipping out? Dude needs to chill out he has a big target on his back as it is.
[QUOTE=Blue123;258574]He was probably trying to mess with him, which is apparently really easy to do. No need to get mad over that, it's not illegal to say I want to go in a jungle against CT or that you want CT out. Then CT was like you're saying I am scared, if you're not scared why are you flipping out? Dude needs to chill out he has a big target on his back as it is.[/QUOTE]
The flipout you are right not necessary besides being hilarious for TV purposes. But he probably figures he already has the target, why not try to rattle them just like Wes is trying to rattle him. Or he just is out of control, one way or another haha.
You really can't have a scorecard unless they are going head to head. As soon as CT stepped foot in this house it was everyone vs him (with Adam sort of against him too). So whether he was a changed man, or a complete animal, they all were gunning for him either way due to fear and his reputation/skills. Wes no one guns for they don't think of him as a huge threat besides Kenny just not liking him, for tv purposes.
So hard to say Wes IF he makes it farther is better. Unless he beats him head to head in the jungle.
On the duel he did everything in his power to avoid him and lucked out on a DQ and faced Brad.
i find it interesting how Johnny has not said a word about CT so far(that's aired), and he is looked at out of the JEKW as the worst and using the alliances the most. When the others seem far more desperate than he does to get rid of him. Maybe he's confident with Tyler?
[QUOTE=jojorules;258581]You really can't have a scorecard unless they are going head to head. As soon as CT stepped foot in this house it was everyone vs him (with Adam sort of against him too). So hard to say Wes IF he makes it farther is better. Unless he beats him head to head in the jungle.
On the duel he did everything in his power to avoid him and lucked out on a DQ and faced Brad.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but that's all part of the game, you can't always be top dog. So if you can't physically beat him then you have to find another way to do it, lucky for Wes, Evan is an idiot and that duel was impossible not to DQ in. CT has had a lot of bad luck, but if he can stay calm he could win more, if there was another team challenge like inferno/Gauntlet he'd win for sure.
I disagree i think if CT were to win a challenge it would be a Duel. Ct does not get along with teamates
Inferno 2 fought with Dan,Karamo was upset Tonya and Tina coud not Finish
Gaunlet 3 Faught with Adam,Eric,Coral,Johnny
[QUOTE=Blue123;258583]Yeah but that's all part of the game, you can't always be top dog. So if you can't physically beat him then you have to find another way to do it, lucky for Wes, Evan is an idiot and that duel was impossible not to DQ in. CT has had a lot of bad luck, but if he can stay calm he could win more, if there was another team challenge like inferno/Gauntlet he'd win for sure.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100 percent. But the poster who said like Wes 2 CT 0 or whatever, you are scoring them like it's face to face when that isn't the best way to judge because they haven't gone face to face. If you are looking at who manipulates and plays the game better, Wes for sure, but having a scorecard makes it seem like head to head. You know? Also Wes purposely avoiding him says something, if we were to rate their overall abilities. He isn't beating CT, he is playing the game better so he doesn't have to face him and can win(duel 1) i don't know these results.
Wes doesn't compliment much, the fact he said CT was the strongest(possibly) and bigger than him says something.
[QUOTE=jones10389;258586]I disagree i think if CT were to win a challenge it would be a Duel. Ct does not get along with teamates
Inferno 2 fought with Dan,Karamo was upset Tonya and Tina coud not Finish
Gaunlet 3 Faught with Adam,Eric,Coral,Johnny[/QUOTE]
Yeah he doesn't get along with people but they'll tolerate him because he's a good athlete, like they did on G3, on a team challenge they obviously want strong players, so his team mates give him a free pass to act however he wants, cause at the end of the day everyone only cares about the money. And even though he's still a loose cannon I think he has learned to respect his team mates more. And to avoid another big Ez/Tina/Tonya fiasco, they should get rid of their weak players any way they can, even if they throw missions, why do you think he wanted to throw missions so bad on G3, he didn't want a repeat of I2, it's not nice but you gotta do what you gotta do. I think he purposely goes on either team challenges or the duels for that reason. You can guess what challenge is coming up by the order, I bet a lot came into this thinking it was duel 3
He went a little psycho on Wes, maybe to prove he wasn't scared of him. But honestly it puzzles me why CT is so sensitive about being ganged up on and people wanting him gone. I always thought he was a bit more thick-skinned.
CT doesn't really care if the other guys want to scheme to get rid of him. It's just that Wes always runs his mouth about how he's the best but he doesn't have the nads to face CT himself to get him eliminated when Evan/Nehemiah certainly will and I'm sure Tyler/Johnny would do it too if they were forced into it. Wes runs his mouth about how he's the man but the fact that he'll have people do his dirty work for him because he's too afraid to is what CT doesn't like about him.
And as for Wes' comment about CT "maybe" being the strongest, I think this should basically prove without a doubt that he is. From Adam's blog:
LIFTING THE MARBLE SWAN
I know it looks pretty ridiculous watching 4 big guys carry that swan statue, but the truth is that it was extremely heavy, and you are always wary about getting injured early in the competition. Could fewer guys have carried it? Absolutely, but they were playing it safe. [B]However, each of those guys (Evan, Kenny, Johnny, and Wes) all tried individually to pick it up, and none of them could do it alone.[/B] They asked me to help and after making one feeble attempt to lift it myself, I decided to err on the side of caution and stay away from it. Wes actually made a bet with Evan that he could do it, but I forgot was was at stake. I think it was $50 or something like that. If you listen carefully, you can hear me yelling at CT not to pick up the swan as he's walking toward Mandy's bed, I was fearful he would throw his back out and it would affect his performance the next day in the Challenge. I was wrong.
I am rooting for CT to win, but he's not making it easy on himself. The extent of his strategy is "flirt with girls." CT needs to approach this from a different angle...instead of being Scary Beast Man, he needs to try to come off as the leader of the underdogs and garner as many non-JEK alliance votes as he can. Right out of the gate, he should have had Robin/Aneesa and Brandon/Ty on his side. After seeing what the rookies could do, he should have picked up Jonna/Jasmine and Leroy/Mike. I am disappointed that CT doesn't seem to have any gameplan besides yelling at Wes.
CT needs to realize what Landon realized on FM2, and that is you can't win a challenge without some wheeling and dealing.
[QUOTE=the_cactus;258638]I am rooting for CT to win, but he's not making it easy on himself. The extent of his strategy is "flirt with girls." CT needs to approach this from a different angle...instead of being Scary Beast Man, he needs to try to come off a[B]s the leader of the underdogs and garner as many non-JEK alliance votes[/B] .[/QUOTE]
That's a hard proposition given Adam's persistence in helping his JErKy friends as evidence by the order of teams during the mission. Jasmine has said that CT was the only vet guy who actually talked to her so if he had his way, I don't think they would be the first team in the line up.
Why would Ty, Brandon, Leroy and Mike help CT out? They are probably in cahoots with JEK to get the strongest player in the game out.
I really think Adam is out to sabotage CT. He knows that even if CT plays nice with JEK they will throw him in first because he's the best player. As CT said on his twitter, he doesn't need an alliance. He needs his partner to back him up. To stay in the game, CT's only option was to work with the girls since none of the guys including his partner will help him.
[QUOTE=townie;258636]CT doesn't really care if the other guys want to scheme to get rid of him. It's just that Wes always runs his mouth about how he's the best but he doesn't have the nads to face CT himself to get him eliminated when Evan/Nehemiah certainly will and I'm sure Tyler/Johnny would do it too if they were forced into it. Wes runs his mouth about how he's the man but the fact that he'll have people do his dirty work for him because he's too afraid to is what CT doesn't like about him.
And as for Wes' comment about CT "maybe" being the strongest, I think this should basically prove without a doubt that he is. From Adam's blog:
LIFTING THE MARBLE SWAN
I know it looks pretty ridiculous watching 4 big guys carry that swan statue, but the truth is that it was extremely heavy, and you are always wary about getting injured early in the competition. Could fewer guys have carried it? Absolutely, but they were playing it safe. [B]However, each of those guys (Evan, Kenny, Johnny, and Wes) all tried individually to pick it up, and none of them could do it alone.[/B] They asked me to help and after making one feeble attempt to lift it myself, I decided to err on the side of caution and stay away from it. Wes actually made a bet with Evan that he could do it, but I forgot was was at stake. I think it was $50 or something like that. If you listen carefully, you can hear me yelling at CT not to pick up the swan as he's walking toward Mandy's bed, I was fearful he would throw his back out and it would affect his performance the next day in the Challenge. I was wrong.[/QUOTE]
Do you have the link to Adam's Blog about this? CT is so fun to watch. I really admire him.
Townie, do you know what Wes was saying behind CT's back to KellyAnne? What about Johnny? CT said on Derrick's podcast that he heard Johnny talking **** about him during Cutthroat, when CT came to face Tyler and him in the Gulag.
[QUOTE=eggs78;258689]
Why would Ty, Brandon, Leroy and Mike help CT out? They are probably in cahoots with JEK to get the strongest player in the game out.
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Because think about it. As long as CT is there the Target is off THEIR back. If CT/Adam goes then Leroy/Mike and Brandon/Ty will be the next. JEK wants Nobody but themselves at the end so Really it would benefit them more to work WITH CT than AGAINST him.
I think the whole "i dont fear no grown man" comment that Leroy said...and tylers "tell me what you think it is to be scared" comment to leroy may have somethin to do with Tyler wanting Leroy to vote CT in, but Leroy saying no, bc on leroy's podcast, he said he likes competition to be there, and would rather go in a jungle against a team that was harder
I agree 100% that CT is the strongest, everyone knows it.
On another note, with regards to CT and Mandi - could Wes be ANY more dramatic??? "He will set fire to your house..." ****. I don't believe that. CT's gone at it with a lot of guys but he seems to have good self-control when it comes to females, he's never once gotten rough or threatening with any of the women on any challenge, ever.
[QUOTE=townie;258636]CT doesn't really care if the other guys want to scheme to get rid of him. It's just that Wes always runs his mouth about how he's the best but he doesn't have the nads to face CT himself to get him eliminated when Evan/Nehemiah certainly will and I'm sure Tyler/Johnny would do it too if they were forced into it. Wes runs his mouth about how he's the man but the fact that he'll have people do his dirty work for him because he's too afraid to is what CT doesn't like about him.
And as for Wes' comment about CT "maybe" being the strongest, I think this should basically prove without a doubt that he is. From Adam's blog:
LIFTING THE MARBLE SWAN
I know it looks pretty ridiculous watching 4 big guys carry that swan statue, but the truth is that it was extremely heavy, and you are always wary about getting injured early in the competition. Could fewer guys have carried it? Absolutely, but they were playing it safe. [B]However, each of those guys (Evan, Kenny, Johnny, and Wes) all tried individually to pick it up, and none of them could do it alone.[/B] They asked me to help and after making one feeble attempt to lift it myself, I decided to err on the side of caution and stay away from it. Wes actually made a bet with Evan that he could do it, but I forgot was was at stake. I think it was $50 or something like that. If you listen carefully, you can hear me yelling at CT not to pick up the swan as he's walking toward Mandy's bed, I was fearful he would throw his back out and it would affect his performance the next day in the Challenge. I was wrong.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Debut Album;258707]Because think about it. As long as Ct is there the Target is off THEIR back. If CT/Adam goes then Leroy/Mike and Brandon/Ty will be the next. JEK wants Nobody but themselves at the end so Really it would their benefit to work WITH CT than AGAINST him.[/QUOTE]
That would be the logical thing to do, unless they think they have zero chance against C.T. in a final and a better chance to take out one of JEK in the Jungle.
[QUOTE=brunett;258625]He went a little psycho on Wes, maybe to prove he wasn't scared of him. But honestly it puzzles me why CT is so sensitive about being ganged up on and people wanting him gone. I always thought he was a bit more thick-skinned.[/QUOTE]
Might just be me, but I thought the whole "Wes vs. CT" fight looked a little silly... I felt like they were just doing a 'fight' segment for the cameras.
[QUOTE=brunett;258722]I agree 100% that CT is the strongest, everyone knows it.
On another note, with regards to CT and Mandi - could Wes be ANY more dramatic??? "He will set fire to your house..." ****. I don't believe that. CT's gone at it with a lot of guys but he seems to have good self-control when it comes to females, he's never once gotten rough or threatening with any of the women on any challenge, ever.[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah, Wes does seem like he exaggerates things to try and prove a point. CT is very weird but I wouldn't go that far. What Kenny said is true he's like 2 different people, the over sized under armour bad *** CT with his hat to 1 side and then the other look with his hair parted over to one side with his college shirt, and glasses, lol he even smokes the cigarette two different ways depending on how he's dressed lol. I wouldn't be surprised if he was diagnosed with some form of crazy.
[QUOTE=BosNite;258730]Might just be me, but I thought the whole "Wes vs. CT" fight looked a little silly... I felt like they were just doing a 'fight' segment for the cameras.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't know if it was staged but holy **** what can he possibly say for 9 hours straight! But CT does over react sometimes. So who knows.
It definitely isn't staged, but I'm 100% sure that it was really only for about 15 minutes but they added the "timings" to say that it was longer...and then probably again for 5 minutes in the morning before the challenge.
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