The Challenge: Rivals - Chris "C.T." Tamburello

[QUOTE=foofighter7;258190]I dont understand why CT is mad at Wes? It isn't personal at all. Who does CT expect JEK/Wes to throw in? Obviously JEK want to make it to the end together, and they will try to take down CT, Ty, Leroy out to make that happen. I feel CT was way out of line But i do like the fact that Wes looks scared, and all the other cast members are quiet and no one is steppin in bc they are all scared[/QUOTE] Do you really think he was scared? I just thought he looked bored, I don't think anyone is scared of anyone else, most of the vet guys would never hit each other. I think even CT wont do that anymore, he threw his mattress and flicked his hat, lol I don't think he was scared at all. They may be scared of going in an elimination against him but only cause they might go home but no one is scared of getting hurt in a jungle its not like they're gonna say ok the jungle is you guys are going to fist fight each other to the death.

[QUOTE=townie;258191]I just think it boils down to the fact that not a lot of people like Wes as a person and that's why they're team CT as far as wanting CT to beat his ***. Wes is way too arrogant about his own athletic abilities, the guy rarely ever does well on individual challenge days and acts like he never loses or does bad at anything he does. Seems like he always finishes towards the bottom or DQ's at everything. Derrick hit the nail on the head that the guy has absolutely no humility about him.[/QUOTE] Maybe so, but people have been saying that Kenny/Wes is the best team there, and Leroy said Wes, CT and himself were the top 3 guys there..so that kinda says a lot.

[QUOTE=Blue123;258193]Maybe so, but people have been saying that Kenny/Wes is the best team there, and Leroy said Wes, CT and himself were the top 3 guys there..so that kinda says a lot.[/QUOTE] Agreed....Wes is a good competitor as well. You can't forget the last 2 challenges on duel 1 where he beat evan, ct, and brad....and then the last one, where he beat ct and brad that's def not "bottom half"....granted they were swimming type missions, but still

[QUOTE=foofighter7;258196]Agreed....Wes is a good competitor as well. You can't forget the last 2 challenges on duel 1 where he beat evan, ct, and brad....and then the last one, where he beat ct and brad that's def not "bottom half"....granted they were swimming type missions, but still[/QUOTE] Yeah and people always say oh he won cause it was a swimming challenge, so what? Its a skill, why don't you jump in a pool then? And wrestling was supposed to be Derrick's thing and he beat him too in pole wrestle, it is a shame that CT had to DQ on duel 1 and in an elimination round CT could probably beat everyone 9 out of 10 times, but there is no guarantee that CT would beat Wes in a final mission. It was close between Wes and Brad but it was also close between Brad and Evan in duel 2.

[QUOTE=Blue123;258193]Maybe so, but people have been saying that Kenny/Wes is the best team there, and Leroy said Wes, CT and himself were the top 3 guys there..so that kinda says a lot.[/QUOTE] I'd have CT and Leroy in the top 2, with Evan and Wes pretty close for 3rd.

Go back and watch the entire season of Duel 1, Wes was a bottom feeder on every daily challenge except for the last two and he's been a bottom feeder on every daily challenge since then. I don't remember who said it on one of Derrick's podcasts but they were right when comparing the two guys, Wes is just a specialty athlete (swimming) and that's all he's got, CT is an all-around athlete and he'd smoke Wes in anything head-to-head that didn't involve swimming. Put them head-to-head in anything that had to do with strength, speed, distance running, climbing, you name it, CT would destroy him in it.

I thought it was kinda funny when Leroy said he consideres CT to be a natural athlete because he doesn't know anyone else that can smoke as much as CT does in one day and still have no problem doing anything. I've always wondered that myself with some of these people.

[QUOTE=foofighter7;258190]I dont understand why CT is mad at Wes? It isn't personal at all. Who does CT expect JEK/Wes to throw in? Obviously JEK want to make it to the end together, and they will try to take down CT, Ty, Leroy out to make that happen. I feel CT was way out of line But i do like the fact that Wes looks scared, and all the other cast members are quiet and no one is steppin in bc they are all scared[/QUOTE] what makes you think they're scared? Maybe they just don't care. Maybe they want Wes to get his *** whooped. We don't know.

[QUOTE=townie;258200]Go back and watch the entire season of Duel 1, Wes was a bottom feeder on every daily challenge except for the last two and he's been a bottom feeder on every daily challenge since then. I don't remember who said it on one of Derrick's podcasts but they were right when comparing the two guys, Wes is just a specialty athlete (swimming) and that's all he's got, CT is an all-around athlete and he'd smoke Wes in anything head-to-head that didn't involve swimming. Put them head-to-head in anything that had to do with strength, speed, distance running, climbing, you name it, CT would destroy him in it.[/QUOTE] No one is denying that CT isn't a good athlete every body knows it, Wes said CT is me and Kenny's biggest threat, so for CT to get in Wes' face saying I can beat you bla bla doesn't really help him stay in the game, lol he's all like "I smash heads bro" yeah so lets keep you around to smash mine?? And if all Wes had was swimming then he would have gone home after that elimination with Derrick and a lot of these missions involve water. Wes won the final mission of the duel fair and square, all the people complaining should have won it themselves, most of these guys were on that duel. Only person who can complain is CT cause his DQ was bull and no one denies it. I don't get why you're saying CT would beat Wes in everything, that's exactly why Wes wants him out. It's not like he's sneaking around behind his back, he told him to his face, "I want you out". CT should stop whining and take it as a compliment. This game is 1 of the easiest, there are only 4 male eliminations and 1 is already done, and he can win the daily challenge so stop panicking and making a fool of yourself and just shut up and focus on winning, besides his social game isn't all that good, lol he didn't give Wes good reasons to keep him around, he should try to convince the girls to vote with him, instead of complaining to Wes.

CT- "Die, die, die..." LOL.

lol "you just justified it for me to rip a mother ****ers head off" "I will snap your ****** neck off" "you think your gonna get rid of me by throwing a fling size mattress off the balcony?" "when I get my chance im gonna bend you in half" man that was funny

When Wes threw his mattress out the window or whatever, CT said you think i'm scared, Wes throws in you look it, than CT goes right in his face and Wes has no follow up.

I really dislike Wes. First of all, he is a megalomaniac and thinks he's a God amongst men. In the first episode he stated he was stronger than most collegiate football players and in the second, he stated he had the body of a Greek God and CT might be stronger than him. Wes isn't that strong or intimidating. Evan stated on the Ruins that Wes is like 5'8 and 165lbs and only good at exercising. Leroy stated the same thing on Derrick's podcast how Wes is a swimmer and very overrated. Yeah, Wes wont the Duel 1, but if it was against CT rather than Brad, he would've lost. Also, he manipulated his way to the final by putting Evan against CT. All the other challenges Wes has been on, he has never gotten close to the final, except for Fresh Meat and he came in last. The Ruins, Fresh Meat 2 he lost horribly and was very pathetic. Numerous people such as Kenny, Derrick, and Mark Long have stated on Derrick's podcast that he has a warped vision of the world and his abilities and no one is scared of him. They also make fun of him on Twitter. He plays the game very stupid, which made it so easy for Kenny to dismantle his alliance on Fresh Meat 2. Wes is an arrogant, stupid, pathetic, *******, plain and simple.

[QUOTE=jojorules;258207]When Wes threw his mattress out the window or whatever, CT said you think i'm scared, Wes throws in you look it, than CT goes right in his face and Wes has no follow up.[/QUOTE] If CT wasn't scared of Wes then why is he having such a hissy fit?? Lol actually what came after that was: CT: "you know I'll ******* smoke you" Wes: "yup" CT: "do I sound scared now"? (Lol you sound like a retard haha.) Wes: "Alright good night." CT: "Lay down mother ****er!" Wes:" I already tried, good night." CT: "Lay down!" Lol I can watch this clip over and over, and come on people stop trying to over analyze the video, Wes was not scared, in fact if CT believed in himself more he would'nt be panicking like this, he's not the 1st person every one wanted out of a game, Ev never acted like that when every one wanted her off the island. And Hosah, Leroy said Wes is one of the best, so how is that saying he's over rated lol?

I've made it no secret that I'm a JEK fan but I initially wanted CT to win this challenge for the same reason I wanted Red to win initially on Cutthroat...it sucks to spend years of your life doing this stuff and not really have anything to show for it. But just like I was back on the Blue Team's side on Cutthroat, I'm once again pro-JEK after seeing this ****. It boggles my mind that CT doesn't remember saying the EXACT SAME THING to Kenny and Kenny not throwing a ***** fit. He straight up told them the second you have a bad day, I'm sending you in and can't handle hearing the same thing back. Only two guy teams are coming out of this with money. What on earth makes CT think that everyone is gonna roll over and let them win? Especially when Johnny, Evan, and Nehemiah are on two other guy teams, who are Kenny and Wes's closest friends there.

uh... after watching that sneak peek... C.T. just made himself look incredibly stupid, unless there's something I'm not seeing. Wes knows C.T. is probably "all-around" better than him, so I mean he doesn't give a **** if C.T. goes on for hours about how he'll smash him or whatever. Honestly, I would say Wes won that, and I don't even like the guy.

[QUOTE=Blue123;258189]Yeah I am curious to see why every one is team CT cause I don't know how anyone can be by that clip... But I still think it was very kind of Wes to sit there and let CT talk about his feelings, Wes is a good listener lmao.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=townie;258191]I just think it boils down to the fact that not a lot of people like Wes as a person[/QUOTE] If you listen to Derrick's podcast, Mike doesn't really like CT but in this particular case, he sides with CT so they know the circumstances of the fight which is actually just CT's rant. I think Wes was just sitting there doing nothing because he was waiting until CT had enough and gets kicks off for taking a swing at him. I know it's been discussed ad nauseum but that's just a cowardly move especially for someone who builds himself as a superior athletes. Take him out in the field! [QUOTE=Blue123;258203]CT should stop whining and take it as a compliment...so stop panicking and making a fool of yourself and just shut up and focus on winning, besides his social game isn't all that good, lol he didn't give Wes good reasons to keep him around, he should try to convince the girls to vote with him, instead of complaining to Wes.[/QUOTE] You're right. This "fight" is just CT whining and ranting and Wes waiting for CT to take a swing at him. Adam said in [URL="http://shotofyager.com/Podcast/A_Shot_of_Yager/Entries/2011/7/6_MTVs_Adam_King.html"]this podcast[/URL] that CT likes to think out loud so the whole incident might just be CT venting out his frustration for being targeted by the whole house.

everyone knows that CT is a hot head im not surprised by his reaction at all I think this is the first challenge that CT did where someone told him straight up to his face man to man "im gonna do what ever it takes to get you out of here" you can tell Wes was scared man is that not obvious? he just sat there and listened to this dude bashing words at him for 4 hours straight and his only reply was "alright, yea, yea, yup, sure, cya, good night" those are called **** come backs matter of fact ive seen this a lot in high school then after they wake up CT is still going at it threatening to bend him in half(lol) Wes says "get the fk out of here!" only because he saw that there was a crowd around them watching it and didn't want to look like a pus and walked off

Does anyone know what Wes was saying behind CT's back to KellyAnne? I heard that Wes has been talking **** about CT to KellyAnne a while ago when they were together. Can anyone give any insight to what he said and why?

According to MTV.com that isn't everything. They just broke it down for that clip, but in tonight's episode it will show more of the fight and why it lasted as long as it did.

Wes doesn't stand up to him at all, if he got back up in CT's face after he said that CT looked scared of him. He could have gotten in CT's face had CT punch him and he would have stayed, so obviously he wanted nothing to do with CT at all.

I love C.T.'s athletic abilities, and wish he would just crush everyone in the competition rather than get into arguments that people are intentionally trying to provoke him into.

I bet MTV shows barely any of it to be honest. I bet it's like a quick 2 minute scene, they show the "who's scared of you now" thing, than the reaction of other castmembers.

[QUOTE=eggs78;258215]If you listen to Derrick's podcast, Mike doesn't really like CT but in this particular case, he sides with CT so they know the circumstances of the fight which is actually just CT's rant. I think Wes was just sitting there doing nothing because he was waiting until CT had enough and gets kicks off for taking a swing at him. I know it's been discussed ad nauseum but that's just a cowardly move especially for someone who builds himself as a superior athletes. Take him out in the field! .[/QUOTE] I thought they we're talking about who would win in a fist fight? Of course CT could beat every one in that, yeah maybe we'll see the rest of what happened tonight but I seriously thought this fight was about Wes "talking ****" saying I want you out isn't talking **** ****. And what makes you think that he wanted him to hit him? Maybe he stayed there cause if he left CT would just follow him, there is more to the clip, theres supposed to be a scene where Wes is sitting with his legs up and CT says "my top priority is to **** you up Wes" and the other where he says "are you done" I wonder if that was before or after this, because the clip did start with him asking so you guys are going to try and throw us in every time?

[QUOTE=Blue123;258222]I thought they we're talking about who would win in a fist fight? Of course CT could beat every one in that, yeah maybe we'll see the rest of what happened tonight but I seriously thought this fight was about Wes "talking ****" saying I want you out isn't talking **** ****. And what makes you think that he wanted him to hit him? Maybe he stayed there cause if he left CT would just follow him, there is more to the clip, theres supposed to be a scene where Wes is sitting with his legs up and CT says "my top priority is to **** you up Wes" and the other where he says "are you done" I wonder if that was before or after this, because the clip did start with him asking so you guys are going to try and throw us in every time?[/QUOTE] They did say CT would win in a fight, but Leroy/Mike/Jasmin/Jonna so far have all said Team CT when Derrick asked who's side they are on in the fight. So Wes probably comes off as some cocky tough guy like always, and CT snaps.....for 9 hours haha. Wes could have gotten back in his face knowing CT can't throw a punch instead of staring at the wall. Wes has snapped on little to nothing before, so the fact that he won't get in his face back, makes me think he wants no part. Look at Johnny/Kenny's expression at the end of the clip it looks like they have been listening to it for hrs

[QUOTE=challenge;258216]everyone knows that CT is a hot head im not surprised by his reaction at all I think this is the first challenge that CT did where someone told him straight up to his face man to man "im gonna do what ever it takes to get you out of here" you can tell Wes was scared man is that not obvious? he just sat there and listened to this dude bashing words at him for 4 hours straight and his only reply was "alright, yea, yea, yup, sure, cya, good night" those are called **** come backs matter of fact ive seen this a lot in high school then after they wake up CT is still going at it threatening to bend him in half(lol) Wes says "get the fk out of here!" only because he saw that there was a crowd around them watching it and didn't want to look like a pus and walked off[/QUOTE] CT is a bully that you find on the playground. He goes around threatening everyone to try to prove what a tough guy he is, to prove that he's a real man. That's the only way he knows how. Why would Wes be stupid enough to get bullied into a fight with him and get kicked off the show? Wes has a great chance to win it all with Kenny. Why screw that up over the likes of CT? For what? CT was doing everything he could to coax Wes into throwing the first punch. Wes didn't fall for it. If CT really wanted to get into a fight with Wes, he would've thrown the first punch like he did against Adam or that other guy instead of screaming in his face for hours. lol I'm sure Wes would've showed what he was made of then. Can not stand this guy. Hope he never comes back to another challenge.

[QUOTE=endia;258225]CT is a bully that you find on the playground. He goes around threatening everyone to try to prove what a tough guy he is, to prove that he's a real man. That's the only way he knows how. Why would Wes be stupid enough to get bullied into a fight with him and get kicked off the show? Wes has a great chance to win it all with Kenny. Why screw that up over the likes of CT? For what? CT was doing everything he could to coax Wes into throwing the first punch. Wes didn't fall for it. If CT was so big and bad, why didn't he throw the first punch like he did against Adam or that other guy? I'm sure Wes would've showed what he was made of then. Can not stand this guy. Hope he never comes back to another challenge.[/QUOTE] I completely agree except for the CT never coming back.

[QUOTE=jojorules;258224]They did say CT would win in a fight, but Leroy/Mike/Jasmin/Jonna so far have all said Team CT when Derrick asked who's side they are on in the fight. So Wes probably comes off as some cocky tough guy like always, and CT snaps.....for 9 hours haha. Wes could have gotten back in his face knowing CT can't throw a punch instead of staring at the wall. Look at Johnny/Kenny's expression at the end of the clip it looks like they have been listening to it for hrs[/QUOTE] Lol yeah they all look exhausted, and why would Wes get in his face? There's no need to, it's called being the bigger man. They also sleep in the same room so Wes couldn't really escape from the rant. Most of the vet guys are not that stupid and won't go starting problems over nothing like the rookie girls. It's not personal so there's no need to fight and scream back as if he was insulting his family or something, besides CT probably wont hit him and Wes wouldn't either, so there's no point in going crazy. If Wes really wanted him to get kicked off for fighting then he could have instigated more. But he probably thinks he can get him out of the game with out him going out in a fight.

[QUOTE=jojorules;258221]I bet MTV shows barely any of it to be honest. I bet it's like a quick 2 minute scene, they show the "who's scared of you now" thing, than the reaction of other castmembers.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they're not going to get into the back story like the Jonna/Camilla fight. I would like to know why when Derrick asked Leroy, Mike , Jonna and Jasmine whose side they were on in this particular fight, they all said CT.

[QUOTE=eggs78;258231]Yeah, they're not going to get into the back story like the Jonna/Camilla fight. I would like to know why when Derrick asked Leroy, Mike , Jonna and Jasmine whose side they were on in this particular fight, they all said CT.[/QUOTE] Everyone says how unbearably cocky Wes is, he probably did something else besides just say he was going to try to get rid of him, and no one even attempted to separate them or tell Ct to shut up, so they probably all enjoyed watching Wes get yelled at and do nothing about it.