The Challenge: Favorite/Fantasy Casts

A Gauntlet of vets and rooks of people who have [U]never won [/U]before. Rookies Girls (8) Emilee Fitzpatirck (RW Cancun) Ashlee Feldman (RW New Orleans) Nany Gonzalez (RW Las Vegas) Emily Schrom (RW Washington) Brittini (RW Hollywood) Svletlana (RW Key West) Parisa (RW Sydney) Jonna Mannon (RW Cancun) Rookie Guys(8) Leeroy Garret (RW Las Vegas) CJ kogel (RW Cancun) Andrew Woods (RW Washington) Noor (Fresh Meat 2) Ryan Conklin (RW Brooklyn) Derrick Chavez (RW Cancun) Issac (RW Sydney) Ryan Knight (RW New Orleans) Vet Girls (8) Laurel Stuckey (Fresh Meat 2) Theresa Gonzalez (Fresh Meat 2) Jenn Grivilja (RW Denver) Sarah Rice (RW Brooklyn) Kellyanne Judd (RW Sydney) Shavoun Torres (RW Sydney) Casey Cooper (Fresh Meat) Melinda Stolp (RW Austin) Vet Guys (8) Chris Turnbello (RW Paris) Vinny Toti (Fresh Meat 2) Chet Cannon (RW Brooklyn) Erick Banks (Fresh Meat) Danny Jamison (RW Austin) Ryan Kehoe (Fresh Meat) Cohutta Grindstaff (RW Sydney) Davis Mallaroy (RW Denver)

I think everyone in this cast can handle a challenge. Not everybody can come back and do a challenge (Abram in Cut Throat) and not everybody is physically build to do one, but I think this is the best cast period for a Ruins type challenge. I expect fireworks and I will pretty much pay to see this. If the challenges were to end this would be the last cast I would want to see. Ruins 2 [B]Challengers[/B] Emily Baya Kelly Anne Svetlana Jenn Cara Maria Laurel Diem Kim Leroy Joey Jose Will Pete CT Scott Noor CJ [B]Champions[/B] Susie Evelyn Carley Rachel Aviv Jodi Veronica (I will have to choose Veronica over Tonya because a lot of people pick on Tonya) Johanna Kina Kenny Evan Johnny Alton Landon Wes Brad Darrell Derrick

Rather than going for my dream teams Ive tried to make it as even as possible by adding people like Dunbar, Carley, Frank and Nehemaih to weigh the Champions down [B]The Ruins 2[/B] [B]Champions:[/B] Wes Kenny Abram Mark Long Frank Tyler (Key West) Darrell Dunbar Nehemiah Evelyn Susie Coral Veronica Tonya Katie Carley Johanna Jodi [B]Challengers:[/B] CT Adam (Paris) Pete (FM2) Mike (Vegas) Leroy Ty (DC) Issac Chet Ryan (New Orleans) Kelly Anne Anessa Jenn Laurel Emily (DC) Sarah (Brooklyn) Kimberly Cara Maria Ayiiia

Battle of the seasons opposite *** partners Evan Starkman/Case Cooper (Fresh Meat) Noor J/ Laurel Stuckey (Fresh Meat 2) Danny Jamison/ Melinda Stolp (RW Austin) Tyler Duckworth/ Paula meronek (RW Key west) Dunbar Merril/ Kellyane Judd (RW Sydney) Derrick Chavez/Emilee Fitzpatirck (RW Cancun) Ty Ruff/Emily Schromm (RW DC) Ryan Knight/ Jemmye Carroll (RW New Orleans) Mike Ross/ Heather Cooke (RW Las Vegas) JD Ordonez/Sarah Rice (RW Brooklyn) Nick Brown/ Briitini Sherrod (RW Hollywood) Tyrie Ballard/ Jenn Grivlja (RW Denver)

I think if they could get them to do it, a "couples" challenge past/present would be awesome. Johanna (RW: Austin) & Wes (RW: Austin) Melinda (RW: Austin) & Danny (RW: Austin) Jenn (RW: Denver) & Pete (Fresh Meat 2) Nany (RW: Las Vegas) & Adam (RW: Las Vegas) Diem (Fresh Meat) & CT (RW: Paris) Kimberly (RW: Hollywood) & Dunbar (RW: Sydney) Emily (RW: D.C.) & Ty (RW: D.C.) Jillian (RR: X-Treme) & Frank (RW: Las Vegas) Janelle (RW: Key West) & Will (RW: Hollywood) Robin (RW: San Diego) & Mark (RR: First Adventure) Jemmye (RW: New Orleans) & Knight (RW: New Orleans) Heather (RW: Las Vegas) & Dustin (RW: Las Vegas)

I really don't care much for the guys, and can't think of 12 that I really like. So, I'll just name the girls for now (: 1. Aneesa 2. Coral 3. Katie 4. Jillian 5. Susie 6. Jenn 7. Emily 8. Laurel 9. Brittini 10. Cara Maria 11. Sarah Greyson 12. Camila

[QUOTE=TSPKM;231773]Most likely the cast for next season: No not a spoiler. 1.Tyler (Key West) 2.Dunbar (Sydney) 3.Brandon (Fresh Meat 2) 4.JD (Brooklynn) 5.Derrick (X-treme) 6.Johnny (Key West) 7.Eric (Fresh Meat) 8.Kenny (Fresh Meat) 9.Ryan (Fresh Meat) 10.Preston (B2NO) 11.Ryan (B2NO) 12.Knight (B2NO) 13.Wes (Austin) 14.Danny (Austin) 1.Paula (Key West) 2.Jenn (Denver) 3.Kelly Anne (Sydney) 4.Emily (DC) 5.Camila (SBC) 6.Cara Maria (Fresh Meat 2) 7.Katelynn (Brooklynn) 8.Aneesa (Chicago) 9.Mandi (Fresh Meat 2) 10.Theresa (Fresh Meat 2) 11.Sarah (Brooklynn) 12.Laurel (Fresh Meat 2) 13.Evelyn (Fresh Meat) 14.Diem (Fresh Meat)[/QUOTE] [SPOILER]Yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, yes, no, supposed to, supposed to, no, yes, and no for the boys. Yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and no for the girls. You are one scary predictor for the girls side.[/SPOILER] Other than that, I already posted my fantasy challenge cast, and I think I chose stacked people, they probably wont have drama though.

These are kinda fun to come up with Battle of the sexes 3 Girls (12) Heather Cooke (RW B2 Las Vegas) Ashlee Feldman (RW B2 New Orleans) Laurel Stucky (Fresh Meat 2) Evelyn Smith (fresh Meat) Emily Schromm (RW DC) Emilee Fitzpatirck (RW Cancun) Sarah Rice (RW Brookyln) Brittini Sherrord (RW Hollywood) Tina Barta (RR South Pacific) Jenn Grivija (RW Denver) Veronica Pertullio ( RR Semester at Sea) Rachel Robinson (RR Campus Crawl) Guys: Noor J (Fresh Meat 2) Kenny Santucci (Fresh Meat) John Devaninzio (RW Key West) Danny Jamison (RW Austin) Adam King (RW Paris) Dustin Zito (RW B2 Las Vegas) Andrew Woods (RW DC) Ryan Leslie (RW B2 New Orleans) Cj Kojel (RW Cancun) Derrick Kosinski (RW x-Treme) Cohutta Grindstaff (RW Sydney) Syrus Yarbourough (RW Boston)

The Ruins 2. Champions Abram(South Pacific) Landon(Philly) Randy(San Diego) Mark(Road Rules 1) Tyler(Key West) Alton(Las Vegas 1) Jodi(X-TREME) Susie(Down Under) Holly(Latin America) Jillian(X-TREME) Rachel(Campus Crawl) Tori(Viewers Revenge) Veronica(Semester At Sea) Challengers Dan(Viewers Revenge) CT(Paris) Ty(DC) Danny(Austin) Dave(Hollywood) Leroy(Las Vegas 2) Knight(New Orleans 2) Sarah(Brooklyn) Jenn(Denver) Aneesa(Chicago) Robin(San Diego) Ashely(DC) Ayiiia(Cancun) Beth(Los Angeles)

[QUOTE=Debut Album;245013]The Ruins 2. Champions Abram(South Pacific) Landon(Philly) Randy(San Diego) Mark(Road Rules 1) Tyler(Key West) Alton(Las Vegas 1) Jodi(X-TREME) Susie(Down Under) Holly(Latin America) Jillian(X-TREME) Rachel(Campus Crawl) Tori(Viewers Revenge) Veronica(Semester At Sea) Challengers Dan(Viewers Revenge) CT(Paris) Ty(DC) Danny(Austin) Dave(Hollywood) Leroy(Las Vegas 2) Knight(New Orleans 2) Sarah(Brooklyn) Jenn(Denver) Aneesa(Chicago) Robin(San Diego) Ashely(DC) Ayiiia(Cancun) Beth(Los Angeles)[/QUOTE] The Champions would rip through the Challengers, especially because none of those guys would wanna throw missions to get rid of any girls so the Challengers wouldn't stand a chance. Definitely would be a fun season though.

I know that it may not be too realistic because a lot of them are older cast members but here they are: Guys Yes (RR Semester at Sea) Dan (RR Northern Trail) Theo (RR Velocity Tour) Shane (RR Campus Crawl) Cohutta (RW Sydney) Antoine (RR Europe) Jamie (RW New Orleans) Colin (RW Hawaii) Darrell (RR Campus Crawl) Frank (RW Las Vegas) Randy (RW San Diego) Landon (RW Philadelphia) Girls Lori (RW Back to New York) Kendal (RR Campus Crawl) Katie (RR the Quest) Sarah (RR Campus Crawl) Holly S. (RR Latin America) Angela (RR Xtreme) Ellen (RR the Quest) Jamie (RW San Diego) (and since I know she would never do it now I'll say Coral (RW Back to New York)) Svetlana (RW Key West) Susie (RR Down Under) Elka (RW Boston) Johanna (RW Austin)

The Duel 3: Battle of the Champions-This challenge consist only of people who have won a challenge. Mark(RR 1) Yes(Semester at Sea) Dan(Northern Trail) Theo(Maximum Velocity Tour) Darell(Campus Crawl) Wes(Austin) Jaime(New Orleans 1) Landon(Philly) John(Key West) Alton(las Vegas) Tonya(Chicago) Coral(Back 2 New York) Julie(New Orleans 1) Johanna(Austin) Janelle(Key West) Veronica(Sememster at Sea) Susie(Down Under) Rachel(Campus Crawl) Tori(Viewers Revenge) Jodi(X-TREME)

[QUOTE=Debut Album;245901]The Duel 3: Battle of the Champions-This challenge consist only of people who have won a challenge. Mark(RR 1) Yes(Semester at Sea) Dan(Northern Trail) Theo(Maximum Velocity Tour) Darell(Campus Crawl) Wes(Austin) Jaime(New Orleans 1) Landon(Philly) John(Key West) Alton(las Vegas) Tonya(Chicago) Coral(Back 2 New York) Julie(New Orleans 1) Johanna(Austin) Janelle(Key West) Veronica(Sememster at Sea) Susie(Down Under) Rachel(Campus Crawl) Tori(Viewers Revenge) Jodi(X-TREME)[/QUOTE] Thats so crazy. I was just made a cast for the same exact challenge, I even gave it the same name and everything. Thats crazy. But here is mine. Wes (RW: Austin) Dunbar (RW: Sydney) Brad (RW: San Diego) Darrell (RR: Campus Crawl) Kenny (Fresh Meat) Johnny (RW: Key West) Derrick (RR: X-Treme) Evan (Fresh Meat) Landon (RW: Philadelphia) Abram (RR: South Pacific) Susie (RR: Down Under) Tori (RR: Viewer's Revenge) Tonya (RW: Chicago) Evelyn (Fresh Meat) Kina (RR: X-Treme) Rachel (RR: Campus Crawl) Jillian (RR: X-Treme) Jodi (RR: X-Treme) Coral (RW: Back to New York) Veronica (RR: Semester at Sea) Assuming this is the same format as the Duel 1, with 16 eliminations and 4 players are in the final. Make up some elimination orders to see if yours are close to my eliminations.

Julie (Real World: New Orleans) Coral (Real World: Back to New York) Holly (Road Rules: Latin America) Tonya (Real World: Chicago) Cara (Road Rules: South Pacific) Laurel (Fresh Meat 2) Jodi (Road Rules: X-Treme) Ellen (Road Rules: The Quest) Emily (Road Rules: 2nd Adventure) Tori (Road Rules: Viewer's Revenge) Theo (Maximum Velocity Tour) Mark (Road Rules: 1st Adventure) Alton (Real World: Las Vegas) Evan (Fresh Meat) David (Real World: Seattle) CT (Real World: Paris) Adam (Road Rules: The Quest) Eric (Real World: New York) Dan (Real World: Miami) Ryan (Real World: Back to NOLA) This is a list of old schoolers that are strong and some of them cause drama, a couple are laid back, there are two competitors that are duds. Most of all I would love to see Julie vs Coral and a lot of these people aren't even in the same season. There are a couple of new people, but it would be interesting to watch.

Inferno 4: Rookies Vs Veterans. Veterans Dunbar(Sydney) Brad(San Diego) Alton(Las Vegas Derrick(X-TREME) Laterian(Maximum Velocity Tour) Tina(South Pacific) Sarah(Brooklyn) Jillian(X-TREME) Paula(Key West) Rachel(Campus Crawl) Rookies Ty(DC) Chris(South Pacific) Bronne(Cancun) Shayne(Down Under) Adam(Las Vegas 2) Belou(Europe) Devyn(Brooklyn) Sophia(The Quest) Jemmye(New Orleans 2) Kendall(Campus Crawl)

[SIZE="5"]Real World Vs Road Rules/Fresh Meat[/SIZE] [I]7 males and 7 females per team, the game goes the same as the gauntlet 3, only you get the money divided per mission not all at the end :p[/I] [B]Real world:[/B] Landon (philadelphia) Alton (Las Vegas) Wes (Austin) Danny (Austin) C.T. (Paris) Brad (San Diego) Johnny (Key West) Jenn (Denver) Paula (Key West) Melinda (Austin) Sarah (Brooklyn) Robin (San Diego) Emily (DC) Ruthie (Hawaii) [B]Road Rules/Fresh Meat:[/B] Derrick (x-treme) Abram (South Pacific) Kenny (FM) Evan (FM) Darrell (Campus Crawl) Noor (FM2) Vinny (FM2) Carley (FM2) Susie (Down Under) Kina (X-treme) Jillian (X-treme) Evelyn (FM) Jodi (X-treme) Rachel R (Campus Crawl) Oh well, I'm not really counting on this ever happening :p

Rivals II Kelly Anne & Dunbar (Ruins) Wes & Johanna (Island) Everlyn & Luke (Fresh Meat II) Laurel & Eric (Cutthroat) Susie & Johnny (Inferno III) Katie & Ty (Cutthroat) CT & Diem (Duel II) Tonya & Kenny (Island) Abraham & Cara Maria (****gate) Dan & Robin (Island) Ayiiia & Joey (Cancun) JD & Sarah (Brooklyn) Danny & Melinda (Break Up) Andrew & Ashley (DC) McKenzie/Sahar & Ryan (New Orleans 2010) Adam & Nany (Las Vegas 2011) Other pairings, but would be highly unlikely Coral & Steven (Battle of the Seasons) Tyler & Svetlana (Key West) CT & Leah (Paris) Beth & Nehemiah/Derrick (Duel)

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;248165]Rivals II Kelly Anne & Dunbar (Ruins) Wes & Johanna (Island) Everlyn & Luke (Fresh Meat II) Laurel & Eric (Cutthroat) Susie & Johnny (Inferno III) Katie & Ty (Cutthroat) CT & Diem (Duel II) Tonya & Kenny (Island) Abraham & Cara Maria (****gate) Dan & Robin (Island) Ayiiia & Joey (Cancun) JD & Sarah (Brooklyn) Danny & Melinda (Break Up) Andrew & Ashley (DC) McKenzie/Sahar & Ryan (New Orleans 2010) Adam & Nany (Las Vegas 2011) Other pairings, but would be highly unlikely Coral & Steven (Battle of the Seasons) Tyler & Svetlana (Key West) CT & Leah (Paris) Beth & Nehemiah/Derrick (Duel)[/QUOTE] looool now these would bring drama!! though maybe Emily & Ty instead of Katie & Ty would be better?

[QUOTE=Skeet;248166]looool now these would bring drama!! though maybe Emily & Ty instead of Katie & Ty would be better?[/QUOTE] I think there is more hate between Katie and Ty. Emily and Ty seem close friends when he is not drinking.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;248165]Rivals II Kelly Anne & Dunbar (Ruins) Wes & Johanna (Island) Everlyn & Luke (Fresh Meat II) Laurel & Eric (Cutthroat) Susie & Johnny (Inferno III) Katie & Ty (Cutthroat) CT & Diem (Duel II) Tonya & Kenny (Island) [B]Abraham[/B] & Cara Maria (****gate) Dan & Robin (Island) Ayiiia & Joey (Cancun) JD & Sarah (Brooklyn) Danny & Melinda (Break Up) Andrew & Ashley (DC) McKenzie/Sahar & Ryan (New Orleans 2010) Adam & Nany (Las Vegas 2011) Other pairings, but would be highly unlikely Coral & Steven (Battle of the Seasons) Tyler & Svetlana (Key West) CT & Leah (Paris) Beth & Nehemiah/Derrick (Duel)[/QUOTE] Who's that?

Regulars vs. Forgotten 36 player challenge 9 guys 9 girls on each time Regulars CT Kenny Evan Wes Johnny Derrick Brad Mark Abram Sarah Laurel Veronica Katie Rachel Beth Tonya Coral Aneesa Forgotten Andre Lars Dominic Matt (Hawaii) Malik Charlie Jose Josh (DC) Jusin (Hawaii) Kat Cory Rebecca (Seattle) Nicole (B2NY) Keri Mel Lacey Beth A. Chanda

Might as well do my own rivals cast: Men: - Puck & David E. - Abram & Donnell - CT & Adam K. - Kenny & Wes - Brad & The Miz - Derrick & David Burns - ???? (will add in later) Women: - Coral & Trishelle - Emily (RR2) & Veronica - Tina & Beth - Tonya & Susie - Laurel & Cara Maria - Melissa & Julie - Kina & Cara (as much as I don't want to see Kina again)

[QUOTE=RWRRULES;242007]Mine would be DUEL 3 CHAMPIONS... only best of best everyone has won before.. . an absolutely stacked competiton Male: Darrel Taylor (RR Campus Brawl) Kenny Santucci(Fresh Meat) John Devaninzio(RW Key West) Alton Williams(RW Las Vegas) Land[B]o[/B]n Lucek (RW Philadelphia) Derrick Kosinski (RR:X-Treme) Mark Long (RR First Adventure) Abe Boise (RR South Pacific) Evan Starkman (Fresh Meat) Tyler Duckworth (RW Key West) Brad Fiorenza (RW San Diego) Wes Bergman (RW Austin) Female: Evelyn Smith (Fresh Meat) Rachel Robinson (RR Campus Brawl) Tonya Cooley (RR Chicago) Veronic[B]a[/B] Portillio (RR semester at Sea) Susie Miester (RR Down Under) Paula Meronek (RW Key West) Jodi Weatherton (RR Extreme) Tori Fiorenza (RR Viewers Revenge) Carley Johnson (Fresh Meat 2) Ibis Nieves (RR X-Treme) Kina Dean (RR X-treme) Johan[B]n[/B]a Barta (Rw Austin) I think that caast would be stacked and the elimiations will never be boring...the girls side is a bit soft in depth, but not that many differet girls win the challenge recently[/QUOTE] The guys' side is absolutely fantastic. However, I would cast Cohutta Lee from RW Sidney instead of Tyler Duckworth. My female cast would be: Evelyn Smith (Fresh Meat) Rachel Robinson (RR Campus Brawl) Tonya Cooley (RR Chicago) Veronica Portillio (RR Semester at Sea) Susie Miester (RR Down Under) Paula Meronek (RW Key West) Jodi Weatherton (RR: X-Treme) Ibis Nieves (RR: X-Treme) Kina Dean (RR: X-treme) KellyAnne Judd (RW Sidney) Laurel Stucky (Fresh Meat 2) Jillian Zoboroski (RR: X-Treme)

[B]Men:[/B] Abram (RR: South Pacific) Ace (RW: Paris) CT (RW: Paris) Dan (RR: Northern Trail) Dan (RW: Miami) Danny (RW: Austin) David (RW: Seattle) Dunbar (RW: Sydney) Frank (RW: Vegas) Isaac (RW: Sydney) Johnny (RW: Key West) Karamo (RW: Philadelphia) Shane (RR: Campus Crawl) Theo (RR: Maximum Velocity Tour) Timmy (RR: USA-The Second Adventure) [B]Women:[/B] Aneesa (RW: Chicago) Belou (RR: Europe) Beth (RW: Los Angeles) Coral (RW: Back to New York) Ellen (RR: The Quest) Ibis (RR: X-Treme) Jillian (RR: X-Treme) Julie (RW: New Orleans) Katie (RR: The Quest) Kendal (RR: Campus Crawl) Kina (RR: X-Treme) Leah (RW: Paris) Melissa (RW: New Orleans) Piggy (RR: Down Under) Shauvon (RW: Sydney)

I really think the challenge after Rival should be a smaller cast, so I'm going to make an Inferno 4 cast. I think it would be cool because only 1 person would leave a week, rather than 2 like we've had for the past few seasons. Good Guys: Landon (RW: Philadelphia) CJ: (RW: Cancun) Pete (Fresh Meat 2) Preston (RW: New Orleans 2) Dustin (RW: Las Vegas 2) Jemmye (RW: New Orleans 2) Emily (RW: DC) Sarah (RW: Brooklyn) Kellyanne (RW:Sydney) Robin (RW: San Diego) BAs: Abram (RR: South Pacific) CT (RW: Paris) Wes (RW: Austin) Ryan (RW: New Orleans 2) Adam (RW: Las Vegas 2) Katie (RR: The Quest) Tina (RR: South Pacific) Evelyn (Fresh Meat) Laurel (Fresh Meat 2) Cook (RW: Las Vegas 2) I tried to keep the cast semi-realistic. Although some of these people are "retired" I think they may make another appearance.

I think someone like Cohutta would be better in Dustin's place on the good guys, since he's a real good guy and dustin said he won't do a challenge :p

[CENTER][B]The Challenge: Cliques[/B] Whether all contestants were friends, if one person was close to both but the other two weren't, or if all three bonded or were forced to pair up during one challenge for safety. The Ruins-like elimination style; guys and girls eliminations each round; ten eliminations. One threesome from each *** is on the chopping block after each round by all teams; the threesome voted in must pick one of their teamates to go in. The winning team from the mission picks their opponent from an opposing team. Eventually if a team gets voted in two times and loses their will be one person left [SIZE="-5"]that is where my fantasy stops because I don't know how that will play out. :unknw: [/SIZE] [B]Teams:[/B][LIST=1] [*][COLOR="Blue"]Rachel - Veronica - Tina[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Plum"]Kina - Susie - Cara[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="DarkOrange"]Coral - Katie - Robin[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Red"]Jenn - Paula - Diem[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Yellow"]Ashley - Callie - Emily[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="DarkRed"]Heather - Nany - Naomi[/COLOR][/LIST] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR="Blue"]Johnny - Evan - Kenny[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Indigo"]Wes - Danny - Nehemiah [/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Gray"]Mark - Abram - Ace[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]Dunbar - Brad - Chet[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="Red"]C.T. - Frank - MJ[/COLOR] [*][COLOR="DarkRed"]Eric - Preston - Ryan K.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [/CENTER]

^ Why Mark, Abram and Ace? Why CT with Frank and MJ?

[QUOTE=faceless;249111]^ Why Mark, Abram and Ace? Why CT with Frank and MJ?[/QUOTE] CT-MJ-Frank due to Gauntlet 3, editing made it seem like they had some sort of agreement. It was only one episode I believe, but oh well. I guess I just threw Mark, Abram and Ace in there thinking they were good pals, but if I'm wrong-- BMP has done worse (ex. Jamie on the Rookies Team)

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;249138]CT-MJ-Frank due to Gauntlet 3, editing made it seem like they had some sort of agreement. It was only one episode I believe, but oh well. I guess I just threw Mark, Abram and Ace in there thinking they were good pals, but if I'm wrong-- BMP has done worse (ex. Jamie on the Rookies Team)[/QUOTE] Yeah you're right that BMP has done worse. I understand the CT-MJ-Frank thing since they've turned little things into big things before. But as far as Mark, Abram and Ace go, you aren't following the rules you set. Your fantasy cast but I was just wondering since you said what the criteria was for the teams. I think Derrick with Mark and Abe would work since Derrick is friends with both.