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[QUOTE=fabulous788;237494]Oh I totally forgot. What I really meant to say was Inferno 3, The Island, and Cutthroat. Oh and I was totally picking FM because of Evan ;)[/QUOTE] Yep those 3 seasons had the best casts ever! And I know you picked the Ruins because of Dunbar in your first 3 favorite casts, post Gauntlet 2 and you picked the Island and Cutthroat because of Dunbar in your second attempt! I also see a love for Johnny!
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237497]Yep those 3 seasons had the best casts ever! And I know you picked the Ruins because of Dunbar in your first 3 favorite casts, post Gauntlet 2 and you picked the Island and Cutthroat because of Dunbar in your second attempt! I also see a love for Johnny![/QUOTE] You didn't know? I love me some Bananas.
And don't forget Nuts! Walnuts that is!
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237506]And don't forget Nuts! Walnuts that is![/QUOTE] Oh you are right. I also love her. Hopefully she can pull out a big W soon!! If not, I hope she just keeps coming back for more. It so great to watch someone ***** and whine about everything.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;237511]Oh you are right. I also love her. Hopefully she can pull out a big W soon!! If not, I hope she just keeps coming back for more. It so great to watch someone ***** and whine about everything.[/QUOTE] The Paula on a Challenge itinerary: 1) Assume she's going to get to the end because she's done a bunch of these and her alliance will take her far. 2) Say/do something really stupid that puts a target on her. 3) Complain about getting screwed over by a male friend of hers, when they really didn't do anything. 4) Don't win. 5) Spend the entire reunion crying about how unfair everything is.
[QUOTE=AJHill;237582]The Paula on a Challenge itinerary: 1) Assume she's going to get to the end because she's done a bunch of these and her alliance will take her far. 2) Say/do something really stupid that puts a target on her. 3) Complain about getting screwed over by a male friend of hers, when they really didn't do anything. 4) Don't win. 5) Spend the entire reunion crying about how unfair everything is.[/QUOTE] For some time, I've thought that Paula's problem was in putting her faith in the wrong people. Every challenge train wreck we've seen of her (especially the misdirected anger) has been the result of her own choices. Perhaps when we next see her, she will have formed a new alliance of necessity with someone who knows how to bring out her strengths while minimizing or controlling her weaknesses.
[QUOTE=AJHill;237582]The Paula on a Challenge itinerary: 1) Assume she's going to get to the end because she's done a bunch of these and her alliance will take her far. 2) Say/do something really stupid that puts a target on her. 3) Complain about getting screwed over by a male friend of hers, when they really didn't do anything. 4) Don't win. 5) Spend the entire reunion crying about how unfair everything is.[/QUOTE] That is Paula in a "WAL"NUT shell. Hahaha I made myself laugh. But seriously, that basically sums up Paula. [QUOTE=V1man;237583]For some time, I've thought that Paula's problem was in putting her faith in the wrong people. Every challenge train wreck we've seen of her (especially the misdirected anger) has been the result of her own choices. Perhaps when we next see her, she will have formed a new alliance of necessity with someone who knows how to bring out her strengths while minimizing or controlling her weaknesses.[/QUOTE] I agree with V1man. But I also still think some of her problem is trusting the same people over and over. A lot of the mistakes she does to herself and blames the wrong people. Paula can be very useful, in a negative or positive way. Positive in the sense that she isn't a physically weak girl and no one would mind taking her to the end, and negative in the sense she is easily manipulated.
Paula's problem on this last one wasn't that she put her faith in the wrong people, it's that she tried to get a 100% free ride to the final and then complained when it didn't happen. What do you expect Dunbar to do after you not only vote him in, but tell him to his face that you'd send him home before you sent Tyler home? Not only that, if Tori goes home against Theresa to go back to her job, Paula would have just lost the next Gulag anyway cause she would have been in it no matter what. I think Paula's had some excuses before, like at least on The Island she had somewhat of a point, but this last one she just tried and failed to talk her way to the finals. When even Dunbar says that you're crazy and need help, you probably do. That's not to say that Paula's necessarily in a bad position in her life, but she needs to at least stop having conspiracy theories and drinking all the time before any occasion and maybe things will go better.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237588]That is Paula in a "WAL"NUT shell. Hahaha I made myself laugh. But seriously, that basically sums up Paula. I agree with V1man. But I also still think some of her problem is trusting the same people over and over. A lot of the mistakes she does to herself and blames the wrong people. Paula can be very useful, in a negative or positive way. Positive in the sense that she isn't a physically weak girl and no one would mind taking her to the end, and negative in the sense she is easily manipulated.[/QUOTE] That is so true. [QUOTE=Nightwolf;237589]Paula's problem on this last one wasn't that she put her faith in the wrong people, it's that she tried to get a 100% free ride to the final and then complained when it didn't happen. What do you expect Dunbar to do after you not only vote him in, but tell him to his face that you'd send him home before you sent Tyler home? Not only that, if Tori goes home against Theresa to go back to her job, Paula would have just lost the next Gulag anyway cause she would have been in it no matter what. I think Paula's had some excuses before, like at least on The Island she had somewhat of a point, but this last one she just tried and failed to talk her way to the finals. When even Dunbar says that you're crazy and need help, you probably do. That's not to say that Paula's necessarily in a bad position in her life, but she needs to at least stop having conspiracy theories and drinking all the time before any occasion and maybe things will go better.[/QUOTE] I have to agree with the people before though, it is because she trusts the wrong people. I think she is clueless when it comes to the politics part of the game. She could have sided with Tyler, pulled Camila over to her side and maybe Brandon, but her theory was flawed, she wanted to kiss up to Brad and Tori and put Tyler in as many times as she wants, but she herself believed that she didn't need to go in. And when she finally realizes that she is screwed, she doesn't make smart decisions, she voted for Dunbar, instead of siding with Tyler, trying to persuade Dunbar, and voting in Brad. The challenge is like alcohol to Paula, when she is in it, she makes bad choices. As if Brad would really vote Tori over her. Psshhh. If Paula got a clue, she could really run things on these challenges.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;237599]That is so true. I have to agree with the people before though, it is because she trusts the wrong people. I think she is clueless when it comes to the politics part of the game. She could have sided with Tyler, pulled Camila over to her side and maybe Brandon, but her theory was flawed, she wanted to kiss up to Brad and Tori and put Tyler in as many times as she wants, but she herself believed that she didn't need to go in. And when she finally realizes that she is screwed, she doesn't make smart decisions, she voted for Dunbar, instead of siding with Tyler, trying to persuade Dunbar, and voting in Brad. The challenge is like alcohol to Paula, when she is in it, she makes bad choices. As if Brad would really vote Tori over her. Psshhh. If Paula got a clue, she could really run things on these challenges.[/QUOTE] I agree. She was on the bottom of the totem pole in the alliance. Right off the bat it was Brad, Tori and Dunbar. If she made a counter alliance with Brandon, and Tyler, maybe things would have been different.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237602]I agree. She was on the bottom of the totem pole in the alliance. Right off the bat it was Brad, Tori and Dunbar. If she made a counter alliance with Brandon, and Tyler, maybe things would have been different.[/QUOTE] I don't know about that. To me, the alliance structure was more of a person to person thing that looked like this: Tori to Brad, Brad to Dunbar, Dunbar to Paula, Paula to Tyler, and partially Tyler to Melinda. Once Mandi went home, these 5 had the vote no matter what. The only problem was that Chet went home and messed up a lot of things and made them have to figure out a game plan right away. And it's not like Paula had anything to worry about. You gotta remember that when episode 6 began, there were 5 people on the red team: 5 guys and 4 girls. When it ended, there were 6 people: 3 guys and 3 girls. At that point in time, with Camilla still around, I don't think Paula was dumb enough to try and sway anyone when Dunbar was with BT the whole way through. Cause in the end, Paula and Dunbar both tried to get a free ride to the final, and neither of them did. Paula didn't make it and Dunbar had to go into a gulag. That's of course if you consider not going into a gulag being a free ride, but again that's a whole other argument.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;237604]I don't know about that. To me, the alliance structure was more of a person to person thing that looked like this: Tori to Brad, Brad to Dunbar, Dunbar to Paula, Paula to Tyler, and partially Tyler to Melinda. Once Mandi went home, these 5 had the vote no matter what. The only problem was that Chet went home and messed up a lot of things and made them have to figure out a game plan right away. And it's not like Paula had anything to worry about. You gotta remember that when episode 6 began, there were 5 people on the red team: 5 guys and 4 girls. When it ended, there were 6 people: 3 guys and 3 girls. At that point in time, with Camilla still around, I don't think Paula was dumb enough to try and sway anyone when Dunbar was with BT the whole way through. Cause in the end, Paula and Dunbar both tried to get a free ride to the final, and neither of them did. Paula didn't make it and Dunbar had to go into a gulag. That's of course if you consider not going into a gulag being a free ride, but again that's a whole other argument.[/QUOTE] Actually CRG makes a good point. In alliances, there is always a hierarchy. You have the sub-basement people, who just want to breathe the air of the alliance, but are not actually in it, like Mandi. You have the expendable people, the people at the bottom, like Melinda and Chet. They would be thrown in first in times of eliminations. Then you have the middle-tier people, that would be Paula and Tyler in this case. Then you have the sure ones, the top level, those would go in last if at all, such as Tori, Brad and Dunbar to some extent. This happens in all alliances, Johnny would get thrown in before Kenny and Evan would throw in each other, but maybe Derrick would get thrown in before Johnny. You always have a hierarchy. Paula is too trusting, she thought she was at the top, but she needed to remember, married couples won't go against each other, no matter what they said to you. If she made a counter alliance with Camila, Brandon and Tyler, maybe even Dunbar, then she would be at the top of that alliance. So why take the middle level when you can be on the top?
[QUOTE=cryssy19;237611]Actually CRG makes a good point. In alliances, there is always a hierarchy. You have the sub-basement people, who just want to breathe the air of the alliance, but are not actually in it, like Mandi. You have the expendable people, the people at the bottom, like Melinda and Chet. They would be thrown in first in times of eliminations. Then you have the middle-tier people, that would be Paula and Tyler in this case. Then you have the sure ones, the top level, those would go in last if at all, such as Tori, Brad and Dunbar to some extent. This happens in all alliances, Johnny would get thrown in before Kenny and Evan would throw in each other, but maybe Derrick would get thrown in before Johnny. You always have a hierarchy. Paula is too trusting, she thought she was at the top, but she needed to remember, married couples won't go against each other, no matter what they said to you. If she made a counter alliance with Camila, Brandon and Tyler, maybe even Dunbar, then she would be at the top of that alliance. So why take the middle level when you can be on the top?[/QUOTE] Just logically speaking, Paula probably thought she had a vote no matter what. If you look at things, three girls would have to go home before Paula's name would even be mentioned. Since what ended up happening was Tyler, Brad, Dunbar, Paula, and Tori once Camila lost, Paula's probably thinking that she has Tyler AND Dunbar on her side. The only things that she didn't take into account was that A. Tyler plays fair; B. Brad's not an idiot; and C. Dunbar wasn't just gonna let her do what she wanted. In the end though, Paula's still got to look out for what the best team in the end would be, and who's a better asset? The guy who's came in 2nd in both Duels, losing 1 due to a head start and losing the other by 2 seconds OR the guy who can't swim? That's another thing with people, no one on the team trusted Camila so I don't see why Paula would align herself with Camila when she's still afraid that Camila's gonna throw it in the end.
I just think that Paula needs to trust in herself and not trust people that she knows she can't. Why does she keep on relying on JEK and Dunbar? And it's hard for me to pick a 3 seasons after Fresh Meat that had a good cast because a lot of them were just bland So I'm going by how many hot guys there were in each season. So I guess it would be.... Fresh Meat 2 The Ruins The Gauntlet 3
Who do you consider hot in Fresh Meat 2?
Saw on his FB that Theo V is starting some sort of improv podcast, in case any of you are fans. He seems to be recording but it is not available yet for download/listening.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;237668]Who do you consider hot in Fresh Meat 2?[/QUOTE] Cara Maria,Sydney,Sandy and Jillian.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237414]From FM to Cutthroat: 1) Gauntlet III [B]2) Duel II[/B] [B]3) The Ruins[/B] I know a lot of people liked the Cutthroat cast, because of all the rooks, and although the season was enjoyable, the cast wasn't anything steller.[/QUOTE] I agree except my order would be 1)The Ruins 2)Duel 2 3)Inferno 3 I like the balance of veteran,rookies,rws,rrs, and fm.That was my huge issue with FM2.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;237917]Cara Maria,Sydney,Sandy and Jillian.[/QUOTE] I agree with those girls, but Debut Album was referring to guys. I can't think of any on that season. Maybe Jeff and Pete.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;237924]I agree with those girls, but Debut Album was referring to guys. I can't think of any on that season. Maybe Jeff and Pete.[/QUOTE] Oh well Jeff,C.J,Wes, and Vinny were handsome
Hello. Newbie here with a question so please bear with me. If RW/RR tv seasons are 12 weeks long - can someone tell me how long they film? Seems like it would be at least 1/2 that (6 weeks) or even less. Thanks.
[QUOTE=whobe;237933]Hello. Newbie here with a question so please bear with me. If RW/RR tv seasons are 12 weeks long - can someone tell me how long they film? Seems like it would be at least 1/2 that (6 weeks) or even less. Thanks.[/QUOTE] First, Welcome. Second, that seems to be the right number, or at least for the newest one--6 weeks or thereabouts
Derrick's gonna have Ruthie and PUCK on his podcast for a RW Las Vegas premier
This is hysterical. [url=http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/12004bdd83/kenny-santucci-retirement-press-conference-mtv-s-real-world-road-rules-challenge]KENNY SANTUCCI RETIREMENT PRESS CONFERENCE (MTV's "Real World/Road Rules Challenge") from BrettGursky and NicNac[/url]
Is it just me or is pretty much ridiculous that they havent revealed who the last girl for the new challenge is? They've been there almost a month. Apparently they know who it is, just will reveal it "when the time is right", what the **** is that supposed to mean? I avoid spoilers but I've been constantly checking the thread to see who the last girl is and still nothing. I'm pretty frustrated. Ok... I'm done with my rant. If anyone knows who it is just freakin PM me. Thanks.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;238197]Is it just me or is pretty much ridiculous that they havent revealed who the last girl for the new challenge is? They've been there almost a month. Apparently they know who it is, just will reveal it "when the time is right", what the **** is that supposed to mean? I avoid spoilers but I've been constantly checking the thread to see who the last girl is and still nothing. I'm pretty frustrated. Ok... I'm done with my rant. If anyone knows who it is just freakin PM me. Thanks.[/QUOTE] Dude, ungrateful much? They already gave out like 27 people on the cast as well as possible order of eliminations. They work pretty hard at that, and a lot of us don't work to try to get spoilers as much as they do. It was already said that the last female is not revealed because of possible legal issues and as soon as it is safe to reveal her, they will, so just chill and eat some cake or something.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;238197]Is it just me or is pretty much ridiculous that they havent revealed who the last girl for the new challenge is? They've been there almost a month. Apparently[B] they know who it is, just will reveal it "when the time is right", what the **** is that supposed to mean?[/B] I avoid spoilers but I've been constantly checking the thread to see who the last girl is and still nothing. I'm pretty frustrated. Ok... I'm done with my rant. If anyone knows who it is just freakin PM me. Thanks.[/QUOTE] You just answered your own question, rendering your whole rant pointless.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;238199]Dude, ungrateful much? They already gave out like 27 people on the cast as well as possible order of eliminations. They work pretty hard at that, and a lot of us don't work to try to get spoilers as much as they do. It was already said that the last female is not revealed because of possible legal issues and as soon as it is safe to reveal her, they will, so just chill and eat some cake or something.[/QUOTE] Thanks cryssy, that was nice of you to say! Hahaha. People are so impatient, it's a show! If you are so wrapped up in knowing who the last remaining female is, there is something wrong.
Why would their be legal issues if she was revealed but no one else? That sounds a bit much to me. Unless this girl thinks she's Gods gift to reality tv... which I think most people on this show are smart enough to know theres no such thing.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;238243]Why would their be legal issues if she was revealed but no one else? That sounds a bit much to me. Unless this girl thinks she's Gods gift to reality tv... which I think most people on this show are smart enough to know theres no such thing.[/QUOTE] It's been stated before, but I don't feel like going through all the pages to quote it. All of the other cast members are confirmed based on their social networking. Nobody said "I talked to Paula and she said she's going to be on the next Challenge", it was deduced from twitter/facebook. Molds isn't going to say "I talked to Belou, and her and her baby will be on the next challenge", as that would violate her contract.

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