[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;232879]Since I never quoted your specific post, you shouldn't assume that was directed torwards you. I wasn't adressing anyone, just making an observation.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I guess it seemed like it was directed to me because it was right under my previous post, my bad.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232874]Nope, not when you're yelling "I WILL ******* BANG YOU OUT!!!!" "I WILL LAY YOU OUT!!!!" "WHAT IF I COULD PUNCH YOU!!" and the other guy gets in your face and you do absolutely nothing.
CT was just mad that Kenny took him down.[/QUOTE]
No, CT was pissed that he was horsing around with someone he gets along with well gave him a bloody nose for no reason and called him out of it. CT had no reason to fight, and after his fake headbutt Kenny realized it so that's why he acted tough because not only was he sure a fight wouldn't break out, he also knew 8 dudes were standing a foot away from them to break up a possible fight.
I still fail to see where Kenny punked CT
[QUOTE=The Beast;232882]No, CT was pissed that he was horsing around with someone he gets along with well gave him a bloody nose for no reason and called him out of it. CT had no reason to fight, and after his fake headbutt Kenny realized it so that's why he acted tough because not only was he sure a fight wouldn't break out, he also knew 8 dudes were standing a foot away from them to break up a possible fight.
I still fail to see where Kenny punked CT[/QUOTE]
Kenny did not punk CT, but let's not forget, eight dudes, plus production, can't hold him back. :D
[QUOTE=The Beast;232882]No, CT was pissed that he was horsing around with someone he gets along with well gave him a bloody nose for no reason and called him out of it. CT had no reason to fight, and after his fake headbutt Kenny realized it so that's why he acted tough because not only was he sure a fight wouldn't break out, he also knew 8 dudes were standing a foot away from them to break up a possible fight.
I still fail to see where Kenny punked CT[/QUOTE]Uh..right, that's why CT started *****ing immediately after Kenny took him down....
Yup, CT had no reason to fight even though he kept yelling "I'll ******* bang you out!" at the top of his lungs. I'm sorry, but when you say something like that and you don't do anything when the other guy gets in your face, you've been punked.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232895]Uh..right, that's why CT started *****ing immediately after Kenny took him down....
Yup, CT had no reason to fight even though he kept yelling "I'll ******* bang you out!" at the top of his lungs. I'm sorry, but when you say something like that and you don't do anything when the other guy gets in your face, you've been punked.[/QUOTE]
I got a question if CT didn't want to fight, Why he decided to punch Davis in the face after the incident with Kenny, why didn't he punch Kenny who gave him the bloody nose.
[QUOTE=alucard666;232896]I got a question if CT didn't want to fight, Why he decided to punch Davis in the face after the incident with Kenny, why didn't he punch Kenny who gave him the bloody nose.[/QUOTE]Exactly. People need to stop acting like CT is some big gorilla that will destroy anyone in a fight. We've never seen him fight anyone close to his own size on the show.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232898]Exactly. People need to stop acting like CT is some big gorilla that will destroy anyone in a fight. We've never seen him fight anyone close to his own size on the show.[/QUOTE]
At the beginning of the Gauntlet 3 @ the Pinata Pit challenge CT faced Derek from RR Viewers Revenge who actually looked like he weighed a little more than CT.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232895]Uh..right, that's why CT started *****ing immediately after Kenny took him down....
Yup, CT had no reason to fight even though he kept yelling "I'll ******* bang you out!" at the top of his lungs. I'm sorry, but when you say something like that and you don't do anything when the other guy gets in your face, you've been punked.[/QUOTE]
Please, stop diminishing the significance of the dynamics of the situation. Why he had no reason to fight? Simple, Kenny's his friend and he could have possibly been in an alliance with him and derrick. Would it make sense to punch someone you aligned with prior to the challenge in the face over a bloody nose? Yeah, he was pissed that he got a bloody nose and thought he looked like a ***** because of it. So in response he started to say stuff like "I'll bang you out" blah blah to be the tough guy. All Kenny did was step up to him and say "let's go", knowing damn well CT wasn't going to start a fight. And if he did, he had the whole house a foot away from him to break it up.
As for why he punched Davis i have no answer for that and neither do many other people
[QUOTE=The Beast;232926]Please, stop diminishing the significance of the dynamics of the situation. Why he had no reason to fight? Simple, Kenny's his friend and [B]he could have possibly been in an alliance with him and derrick. Would it make sense to punch someone you aligned with prior to the challenge in the face over a bloody nose?[/B] Yeah, he was pissed that he got a bloody nose and thought he looked like a ***** because of it. So in response he started to say stuff like "I'll bang you out" blah blah to be the tough guy. All Kenny did was step up to him and say "let's go", knowing damn well CT wasn't going to start a fight. And if he did, he had the whole house a foot away from him to break it up.
As for why he punched Davis i have no answer for that and neither do many other people[/QUOTE]You don't know that. Derrick wasn't even on the Show at that point (Replaced CT) and I doubt CT would have aligned with Kenny at that point because Kenny wasn't really considered a good competitor. (Was only the 2nd show they've done together and Kenny went home early on the first)
From what we actually know, CT was screaming "I'll band you out" to Kenny and ended up not doing anything. Period.
Trust me. Neither Kenny nor CT was scared of the other. What happened, happened. It was heat of the moment good tv. Both were over it well before any of us even knew it happened.
Let's move on.
[QUOTE=Insider;232928]Trust me. Neither Kenny nor CT was scared of the other. What happened, happened. It was heat of the moment good tv. Both were over it well before any of us even knew it happened.
Let's move on.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I'm not saying CT was scared of Kenny. I know for sure he wasn't, but he definitely did end up looking like a punk.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232929]Just to clarify, I'm not saying CT was scared of Kenny. I know for sure he wasn't, but he definitely did end up looking like a punk.[/QUOTE]
I can see how people would think that. I mean he "appeared" to slap an unassuming Davis, then he appeared to back off the fight with Kenny. I think they both just realized it wasn't worth it before they actually threw any punches.
CT obviously has very little fear and say what you want about Kenny, he's equally as fearless. (most days. lol)
Basically, CT is the kind of person who likes to get to the point and doesn't like to waste his time with unnecessary B.S. or jabber. That's why the interviews seemed so awkward at times... Derrick came off like a teenie bopper interviewing Justin Bieber or something, just asking the most random, ******** stuff. CT is also a very private person which is why he has never really made friends with any of the people from the shows. If you come off as phony or a ******, he really has no time for you, so he never really feels the need to keep in touch with anybody away from the shows. He also pretty much only does these shows for the travel experience and to compete. The "fame" or whatever you want to call it from being on television really doesn't interest him and since many people who do these shows are searching for that, there's automatically a conflict of agendas between he and everybody else. That's probably why he, I guess you could say, jerked Kenny and Derrick around so long to appear on their show. The whole thing just really isn't his cup of tea.
Now, as for the Inferno 3 situation with Kenny... if you think Kenny punked out CT on that show, please seek immediate drug testing. Kenny has wrestled his entire life... since he was a kid, in high school, in college, and continues to compete in grappling tournaments on the east coast and usually medals in them. I also believe there is a Daily up from Fresh Meat 2 where he wrestled big bad Wes and totally tossed him around like a throw pillow. On the Inferno 3, he was totally sober, CT was totally smashed, and CT (with no wrestling experience) manhandled Kenny and choked him out twice to the point that other castmembers had to come in and stop him. Sure, Kenny took CT down right away, but how hard is it to take somebody that intoxicated off their feet? CT dominated him both rounds after being taken down and outgrappled "the grappler" if you will. Kenny would not last 30 seconds in a legitimate fight with CT because A) CT would be able to throw punches and B) nobody would be around to pull CT off Kenny after he choked him out cold.
CT did not get mad because Kenny took him down. He got mad because Kenny gave him a cheapshot and intentionally drove his knee into his face, giving him a bloody nose. Anybody would be pissed off under any circumstances if another person intentionally hit them in the nose. When he confronted Kenny about it, Kenny started doing his usual jive talk crap acting like he wanted to fight. CT knew he was putting up a front because there were about 10 people standing around them and would've broken it up immediately, so he gave Kenny a little head fake and Kenny's body flew back immediately and he covered his face. If anybody got punked out in that situation, it was Kenny, multiple times. Twice for not only getting beaten by a non-wrestler, but for getting absolutely choked out and another time for jumping like a jack rabbit when CT flinched at him like he was going to hit him.
[QUOTE=townie;232950]Basically, CT is the kind of person who likes to get to the point and doesn't like to waste his time with unnecessary B.S. or jabber. That's why the interviews seemed so awkward at times... Derrick came off like a teenie bopper interviewing Justin Bieber or something, just asking the most random, ******** stuff. CT is also a very private person which is why he has never really made friends with any of the people from the shows. If you come off as phony or a ******, he really has no time for you, so he never really feels the need to keep in touch with anybody away from the shows. He also pretty much only does these shows for the travel experience and to compete. The "fame" or whatever you want to call it from being on television really doesn't interest him and since many people who do these shows are searching for that, there's automatically a conflict of agendas between he and everybody else. That's probably why he, I guess you could say, jerked Kenny and Derrick around so long to appear on their show. The whole thing just really isn't his cup of tea.
Now, as for the Inferno 3 situation with Kenny... if you think Kenny punked out CT on that show, please seek immediate drug testing. Kenny has wrestled his entire life... since he was a kid, in high school, in college, and continues to compete in grappling tournaments on the east coast and usually medals in them. I also believe there is a Daily up from Fresh Meat 2 where he wrestled big bad Wes and totally tossed him around like a throw pillow. [B] On the Inferno 3, he was totally sober, CT was totally smashed, and CT (with no wrestling experience) manhandled Kenny and choked him out twice[/B] [B]to the point that other castmembers had to come in and[/B] [B]stop him.[/B] Sure, Kenny took CT down right away, but how hard is it to take somebody that intoxicated off their feet? [B]CT dominated him both rounds after being taken down and outgrappled "the grappler" if you will.[/B] Kenny would not last 30 seconds in a legitimate fight with CT because A) CT would be able to throw punches and B) nobody would be around to pull CT off Kenny after he choked him out cold.
CT did not get mad because Kenny took him down. He got mad because Kenny gave him a cheapshot and intentionally drove his knee into his face, giving him a bloody nose. Anybody would be pissed off under any circumstances if another person intentionally hit them in the nose. When he confronted Kenny about it, Kenny started doing his usual jive talk crap acting like he wanted to fight. CT knew he was putting up a front because there were about 10 people standing around them and would've broken it up immediately, so he gave Kenny a little head fake and Kenny's body flew back immediately and he covered his face. If anybody got punked out in that situation, it was Kenny, multiple times. Twice for not only getting beaten by a non-wrestler, but for getting absolutely choked out and another time for jumping like a jack rabbit when CT flinched at him like he was going to hit him.[/QUOTE]
I only saw one choke out CT gave Kenny, which CT won there and Kenny took CT down the 2nd wrestling match and Kenny won that one. CT didn't beat Kenny twice... Kenny got him the second time and was on top of CT when people came and broke it up just like they came in and stopped CT from choking Kenny out even worse the first match. CT won the first match and Kenny won the second match.
Townie.. You don't know Kenny. You only know CT. To claim you know what did or didn't happen because you heard one side of the story is false. You have no idea what Kenny's "usual" "crap" is. It's obvious that CT is your friend and you'll say anything to defend him.
I really hate it when people think it's ok to be rude or mean because "it's honest". We are civilized people with feelings and manners. We aren't animals out in the wild. It isn't ok to be out right rude to people just because you "don't have time". In fact, it comes across quite ignorant. Hopefully you (townie) are mistaken and CT was merely clowning with his friends and not acting like an ignorant ape the way you've described.
CT wasn't born yesterday. Derrick & Kenny were trolling him for over a month trying to get him on their show to talk crap about this person and that person and to give them gossip for them and their listeners to gobble up. He finally caved & did their show but he didn't give them the material they were trying to pry out of him. What does he have to gain by bashing somebody on a podcast just so two guys he's not even really friends with can get some increased traffic to their website?
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;232951]I only saw one choke out CT gave Kenny, which CT won there and Kenny took CT down the 2nd wrestling match and Kenny won that one. CT didn't beat Kenny twice... Kenny got him the second time and was on top of CT when people came and broke it up just like they came in and stopped CT from choking Kenny out even worse the first match. CT won the first match and Kenny won the second match.[/QUOTE]
Your eyes painted on or what? That's not what went down.
Just because somebody is on top during a grappling session doesn't mean they won/are winning. CT was on his back and had Kenny clamped in a guillotine choke that he would've had no prayer of getting out of had Abram and Alton not stepped in and pulled them apart.
[QUOTE=townie;232975]CT wasn't born yesterday. Derrick & Kenny were trolling him for over a month trying to get him on their show to talk crap about this person and that person and to give them gossip for them and their listeners to gobble up. He finally caved & did their show but he didn't give them the material they were trying to pry out of him. What does he have to gain by bashing somebody on a podcast just so two guys he's not even really friends with can get some increased traffic to their website?[/QUOTE]
Two guys he's not even friends with? That's why he kept calling Derrick "my man" and "lionheart". That would make CT sound awfully fake.
I think you may grasping at straws now my friend.
If they were really CT's friends, they wouldn't be trying to pry "his story" out of him because they'd already know it and they'd know who he is away from the shows... CT even called them out on the fact that they don't know what he's like in his real life away from the challenges. Derrick was also clueless at times as to where to take the interview because he, as he even said, didn't know how to read CT... didn't know if he was being serious or joking with what he was saying.
When you put all that stuff together, does that really sound like people who are close to each other or are friends? Just because CT tolerates them or gets along with them in a challenge setting doesn't mean they're his friends.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;232927]You don't know that. Derrick wasn't even on the Show at that point (Replaced CT) and I doubt CT would have aligned with Kenny at that point because Kenny wasn't really considered a good competitor. (Was only the 2nd show they've done together and Kenny went home early on the first)[/QUOTE]
Slip up on my part, meant to say Abram. Wouldn't be that unrealistic considering he got along with Kenny well on duel 1 and did some previous challenges with abram. That would ensure that if any of the three were voted in, they could use danny or tyrie as sacrificial lambs
[QUOTE=townie;232978]If they were really CT's friends, they wouldn't be trying to pry "his story" out of him because they'd already know it and they'd know who he is away from the shows... CT even called them out on the fact that they don't know what he's like in his real life away from the challenges. Derrick was also clueless at times as to where to take the interview because he, as he even said, didn't know how to read CT... didn't know if he was being serious or joking with what he was saying.
When you put all that stuff together, does that really sound like people who are close to each other or are friends? Just because CT tolerates them or gets along with them in a challenge setting doesn't mean they're his friends.[/QUOTE]
If he and derrick were truly "friends" i suppose derrick wouldn't leave so many twitter messages from incomers that bash on CT who listened to the podcast
[QUOTE=townie;232976]Your eyes painted on or what? That's not what went down.
Just because somebody is on top during a grappling session doesn't mean they won/are winning. CT was on his back and had Kenny clamped in a [B]guillotine choke[/B] that he would've had no prayer of getting out of had Abram and Alton not stepped in and pulled them apart.[/QUOTE]
You were referring to when Kenny's back was against CT's chest right? Rear naked choke my friend.
[QUOTE=townie;232976]Your eyes painted on or what? That's not what went down.
Just because somebody is on top during a grappling session doesn't mean they won/are winning. CT was on his back and had Kenny clamped in a guillotine choke that he would've had no prayer of getting out of had Abram and Alton not stepped in and pulled them apart.[/QUOTE]
No, my eyes aren't painted on, I saw Kenny take CT down real quick like and CT put him in a small guillotine hold as a last resort because Kenny was on top of him (he never had Kenny in a full out guillotine hold in the second match) and then Kenny busted CT's nose with his elbow from what it looked like to me, accident or not, I'm not sure. (I never saw Kenny using his knee as someone else said in an earlier post but maybe I'm wrong)
Unless you're talking about the first match where Kenny tapped out and CT wouldn't let him out until Alton and Abram came over and kinda snapped CT out of it.
[QUOTE=townie;232978]If they were really CT's friends, they wouldn't be trying to pry "his story" out of him because they'd already know it and they'd know who he is away from the shows... CT even called them out on the fact that they don't know what he's like in his real life away from the challenges. Derrick was also clueless at times as to where to take the interview because he, as he even said, didn't know how to read CT... didn't know if he was being serious or joking with what he was saying.
When you put all that stuff together, does that really sound like people who are close to each other or are friends? Just because CT tolerates them or gets along with them in a challenge setting doesn't mean they're his friends.[/QUOTE]
It's called "entertainment". You know.. Television. It's that thing that CT signs up to do so people can watch him and be interested in him. Sometimes he gets paid to do it.
They weren't asking questions for their own info. It was for his "fans" or anyone who was interested in getting to know about him.
Furthermore.... It's a Challenge Podcast... If he doesn't want to talk about the show he shouldn't have done it.
I've always been a CT fan. ALWAYS. However this interview was beyond wacky and you, my dear Townie are making very little sense to me.
Who cares who won their little scuffle? Neither of them do.. I'm sure. Also, when it comes to the Podcast, the proof is in the pudding, bro. All one has to do is listen. I'm still on team CT... but he was cooky. (and to be perfectly honest your portrayal of him isn't doing him any favors... So please relax.)
[QUOTE=townie;232978]If they were really CT's friends, they wouldn't be trying to pry "his story" out of him because they'd already know it and they'd know who he is away from the shows... CT even called them out on the fact that they don't know what he's like in his real life away from the challenges. Derrick was also clueless at times as to where to take the interview because he, as he even said, didn't know how to read CT... didn't know if he was being serious or joking with what he was saying.
When you put all that stuff together, does that really sound like people who are close to each other or are friends? Just because CT tolerates them or gets along with them in a challenge setting doesn't mean they're his friends.[/QUOTE]
I think it's safe to conclude that "townie" is speaking for CT regarding his opinion of the interview. The view reinforces my previously stated view that the interview does not give the MTV Networks attorneys much cover to tell the Challenge insurance carrier that this CT is a new man who represents substantially less risk that that demonstrated during his most recent challenge appearances as a cast member (not as an on camera employee; e.g., Cutthroat). Frankly, I wish he'd not done the interview because I want to see him defeat the prima donnas (Evan, Kenny, Johnny and/or Wes) while being totally cool, calm and collected.
So according to Townie, CT is invincible, he is better than anybody, it was justified and it wasn't his fault when he punched Davis in he face and almost destroy Adam King
[QUOTE=V1man;232988]I think it's safe to conclude that "townie" is speaking for CT regarding his opinion of the interview. The view reinforces my previously stated view that the interview does not give the MTV Networks attorneys much cover to tell the Challenge insurance carrier that this CT is a new man who represents substantially less risk that that demonstrated during his most recent challenge appearances as a cast member (not as an on camera employee; e.g., Cutthroat). Frankly, I wish he'd not done the interview because I want to see him defeat the prima donnas (Evan, Kenny, Johnny and/or Wes) while being totally cool, calm and collected.[/QUOTE]
He'd be bound to get into a fight if he came back. With the house being like a jail and no fun, everyone there would be drinking. With some of the stooges we have on the show now from the newer seasons, I can't see CT not at some point getting into a scuffle just based on stress, lack of fun, and the beer. Not that he's this malicious guy who's always looking for a fight or anything, but I just think it would be bound to happen.
[QUOTE=faceless;232980]You were referring to when Kenny's back was against CT's chest right? Rear naked choke my friend.[/QUOTE]
LMAO that was my first thought too when I read that! Even though it was a rather sloppy one...although I guess when you're ripped you can have ****ty technique.
Instead of talking about how entertaining the second half of the podcast was, we're going back and forth about a stupid wrestling match on Inferno 3? Just because you don't hit somebody that's in your face doesn't mean you're a punk. It means you have restraint and self-control. Throw in the fact that CT and Kenny were on the same team and it was pretty obvious that neither of them were going to risk getting the other sent home.
On the podcast, CT seemed like he had a good time on the older Challenges, which is a sentiment that's been echoed by people like Katie and Abram. He brought up a lot of stories from Inferno 2. It's a damn shame that production is alienating some of the cast members that made this show great.
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