If you're thinking about the Gauntlet 2, I'd definitely say to go for it. I personally really liked that challenge, even though watching the last male Gauntlet was heartbreaking lol. But that challenge was really interesting to me, especially because of what was going on with the Xtreme girls on the Rookie side (probably because Kina and Jodi have been two of my favorite females for a long time).
Inferno 2 was really good too. Good drama, good missions, eliminations rounds however, weren't amazing.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;224754]If you're thinking about the Gauntlet 2, I'd definitely say to go for it. I personally really liked that challenge, even though watching the last male Gauntlet was heartbreaking lol. But that challenge was really interesting to me, especially because of what was going on with the Xtreme girls on the Rookie side (probably because Kina and Jodi have been two of my favorite females for a long time).
Inferno 2 was really good too. Good drama, good missions, eliminations rounds however, weren't amazing.[/QUOTE]
I really like both Timmy and Derrick, so that last male gauntlet really was heartbreaking when D really did deserve to go to the final. Not that Timmy didn't, but D just really deserved to get that win. At least he broke the curse on I3. I might go back and watch Inferno 2 a bit more, but honestly, I stopped watching after Jodi was sent home. She and Kina are my favorites, too. Kina in G2 was great, like Jodi in The Duel.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;224745]I actually find it funny that someone pointed out the cliques in Battle of the Sexes being somewhat racial. I noticed that back when it aired. It was Emily, Anne, Christina, Tonya, and Genesis being one group and then Veronica, Lori, Melissa, Rachel, Jisela & Aneesa being the other. Ayanna floated in the middle and I think Ruthie and Ellen pretty much stuck together. I don't think any of the other girls on that season were there long enough for us to care or even determine what clique they were in (Beth, Gladys, Julie, Amaya)[/QUOTE]
I don't know if I would say it's racial. To me it was more old vs. new girls, with Tonya being the outlier. And Lori, Melissa, Jisela, Aneesa, Veronica, and Rachel wasn't really a clique to me anyways.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;224754]
Inferno 2 was really good too. Good drama, good missions, eliminations rounds however, weren't amazing.[/QUOTE]The elimination rounds in Inferno 2 were such a joke. They would have been better off just going with Dan's suggestion and having people name off Madonna songs or something silly like that. "Yeah, lets have them spin around in toilet paper and then run!!! Good tv!!!!"
[QUOTE=dorkyydaniel;224747]Can you post a link?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://talentnetworkinc.blogspot.com/2010/12/derrick-kosinski-podcast-mtv-cutthroat.html]Talent Network News: Derrick Kosinski Podcast | MTV Cutthroat | w/Dan Walsh | 'The Miz' Wins WWE Title[/url]
The link for Derrick and Kenny's podcast
[QUOTE=kw713;224773][url=http://talentnetworkinc.blogspot.com/2010/12/derrick-kosinski-podcast-mtv-cutthroat.html]Talent Network News: Derrick Kosinski Podcast | MTV Cutthroat | w/Dan Walsh | 'The Miz' Wins WWE Title[/url]
The link for Derrick and Kenny's podcast[/QUOTE]
Is he really talking **** about the Miz?
"He does enough to be a small part, but he is nowhere near the caliber of WWE Champion"
"He must've made friends with somebody"
"When I look at the Miz, I am way better than him."
Okay Dan, okay...
[QUOTE=Morris1721;224742]I feel bad for Ev that she feels betrayed by Abe. I'm looking through his recent FS posts and he's really concrete with his belief that she is on steroids. I mean, he says she's the best female competitor he's seen (when she controls her anger) but he really thinks she's juiced up.
I don't believe that Ev's on steroids because I've known girls who were and like Ev said, she doesn't have the typical steroid body. Does that mean she's 100% clean? No because there's many other things that she could be taking to enhance her physically, not saying that she does those things, just saying.
I'd like to hear other castmembers opinions on the subject though. Do any other castmembers have FormSprings? And does anybody know what sport Ev played in college? She said she was a D1 athlete...[/QUOTE]
She played softball at Hofstra.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;224742]I feel bad for Ev that she feels betrayed by Abe. I'm looking through his recent FS posts and he's really concrete with his belief that she is on steroids. I mean, he says she's the best female competitor he's seen (when she controls her anger) but he really thinks she's juiced up.
[B]
I don't believe that Ev's on steroids because I've known girls who were and like Ev said, she doesn't have the typical steroid body. Does that mean she's 100% clean? No because there's many other things that she could be taking to enhance her physically, not saying that she does those things, just saying.[/B]
I'd like to hear other castmembers opinions on the subject though. Do any other castmembers have FormSprings? And does anybody know what sport Ev played in college? She said she was a D1 athlete...[/QUOTE]
100% clean. She can prove it.
Abe should be careful what he says. Eve is not a public figure as defined by the California courts. Libel cases, while difficult, are not impossible to win, and even then the costs of defending oneself are high, higher than I expect Abe to be able to afford. I'd just keep my mouth shut about such things unless I had proof usable in court. Eve comes from a family of attorneys and she understands the law.
[QUOTE=RMD1;224711]This is exactly correct.
She always did what was best for the team.[/QUOTE]
WRONG. If you read the blogs Veronica was after Emily BUT Emily had more power 'cause for one, Veronica was more friends with the guys, less so with the girls. No one volunteered to be her partner in one mission, that should say something.
She brought up Emily in every inner circle meeting but they don't show it because production wanted her to be the "victim" and have Emily be the "villain". The reason why Veronica could never get Emily off those 2 times she was in the inner circle was because 1. James had the lifesaver and would save Emily, 2. Tonya was going home no matter what.
Veronica wanted to sabotage Emily by giving her a partner and losing on purpose. They made it seem like Aneesa was the mastermind behind it but Veronica came up with it and told Aneesa. Aneesa told this plan to Ruthie, then Ruthie brought it up during the meeting. Lori said this in her blog. Half the girls wanted Emily out and half the girls wanted Veronica out (from the entire girls cast).
[QUOTE=V1man;224808]100% clean. She can prove it.
Abe should be careful what he says. Eve is not a public figure as defined by the California courts. Libel cases, while difficult, are not impossible to win, and even then the costs of defending oneself are high, higher than I expect Abe to be able to afford. I'd just keep my mouth shut about such things unless I had proof usable in court. Eve comes from a family of attorneys and she understands the law.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the clarification. Like I said before, I never thought she is/ever was, but like you said, Abram should be careful about what he says. Mainly because of what you covered, but also for the fact that even if someone looks strong it doesn't mean they didn't put in the work to get there. And it's not like Abe was just hinting at it, he straight out said "definitely, if anybody definitely her".
I'm glad Ev addressed it as well as she did instead of trying to play it off like it didn't bother her like others might do. It's good she stood up for herself and it's really unfortunate that she feels betrayed. Oh well, Ev seems like the kind of person that will take this situation and apply it to her hard work and use it to her advantage.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;224812]Who knows, he might really be better than the Miz. A lot of wrestlers on the independent scene are better than a lot of WWE wrestlers. Being successful in the WWE almost completely based on personalities and characters and not ring work.[/QUOTE]
Being successful is a combination of both mic skills and in-ring abilities.
If you have somebody who can't talk well at all but is amazing in the ring, they won't be successful, it's been proven with former superstars like Shelton Benjamin, Evan Bourne, and MVP.
But you can't be a top superstar if you jump into the ring not knowing anything. Look at the Great Khali as an example. They gave him the belt but he couldn't put on a match for anything.
The Miz can wrestle well, it's just the matter of whether the WWE writers let him wrestler well or not.
[QUOTE=dorkyydaniel;224747]Can you post a link?[/QUOTE]
I know the link to there podcast was posted above, but Derrick hasn't gotten the Laurel and CT one finished I don't think. I saw on D's Twitter that he said he was trying to finish it up tonight.
Honestly, I thought the Miz came off as rather self-absorbed in the Simmons podcast. Talking about how he was the best at the Real World/Road Rules challenges and trashing (in a general sense) the wrestlers that came before him. He says he wants to make the WWF (still can't call it the WWE) the best it's been since the attitude era. He's got a long way to go then. Pro wrestling has sucked for years now and the Miz would barely make a dent in the wrestling world if had been around even as recent as ten years ago. This sounds like I'm angry, but I just didn't like some of the things Mike was saying and how he was coming across throughout the interview. ****, maybe he was still in character since apparently he's supposed to be a heel.
[QUOTE=V1man;224808]100% clean. She can prove it.
Abe should be careful what he says. Eve is not a public figure as defined by the California courts. Libel cases, while difficult, are not impossible to win, and even then the costs of defending oneself are high, higher than I expect Abe to be able to afford. I'd just keep my mouth shut about such things unless I had proof usable in court. Eve comes from a family of attorneys and she understands the law.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying Evelyn could sue Abe because he accused her of taking roids? That's ridiculous. I know people try and sue each other over the dumbest things these days and California (along with Texas) is basically its own country, but that would be downright ludicrous. I'm sure a judge would throw that case out with a huge smirk across his face.
[QUOTE=jhl182;224815]WRONG. If you read the blogs Veronica was after Emily BUT Emily had more power 'cause for one, Veronica was more friends with the guys, less so with the girls. No one volunteered to be her partner in one mission, that should say something.
She brought up Emily in every inner circle meeting but they don't show it because production wanted her to be the "victim" and have Emily be the "villain". The reason why Veronica could never get Emily off those 2 times she was in the inner circle was because 1. James had the lifesaver and would save Emily, 2. Tonya was going home no matter what.
Veronica wanted to sabotage Emily by giving her a partner and losing on purpose. They made it seem like Aneesa was the mastermind behind it but Veronica came up with it and told Aneesa. Aneesa told this plan to Ruthie, then Ruthie brought it up during the meeting. Lori said this in her blog. Half the girls wanted Emily out and half the girls wanted Veronica out (from the entire girls cast).[/QUOTE]
I heard that too. Lori also said Emily was always nice to her. They showed very little of Veronica's game plan, compared to Emily's, so it looks one sided.
Wasn't it said Veronica was in the boys Villa most of the time and were better friends with them then the girls?
It was a very divided cast. I actually liked both girls. Emily never liked drama. She was involved with it, starting it at times, but never wanted to be part of it.
i love how dan and derrick tell it how it is in the podcast. They might sound a bit harsh but it's pretty much true.
I still remember when the Miz was freaking out when Landon saved him against karamo in inferno 2 lol. I don't think he would have complained if it were anyone else
Best quote in the podcast by Dan: "Anytime the Miz comes out its a moment you can go to the bathroom"
[QUOTE=rsox813;224699]Yeah I remember watching some youtube video about all the hypocrisy on the challenges. Tonya refusing to take off her clothes in the BOTS and then flashing everyone on the BOTS 2. Veronica saying that she doesn't hold grudges or revenge on the BOTSeasons and then saying how she'd love to send Emily in BOTSexes home for what Emily did to her in Cabo. In all fairness, Veronica had next to zero chance of making it to the end in the Ruins. She was essentially a rookie. When Susie was telling her she didn't play the game like she used, it's like well, yeah cause she doesn't know anyone on the challenge. It's hard to play a social game when you don't have any social connections. Susie is a really good strategist, but I'm not really a big fan of her.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you watched my videos that I made :). Don't mention my username, I don't want it to be removed lol. I enjoy making those compilations, especially showing moments many fans seem to forget.
[QUOTE=SPK713;224782]Is he really talking **** about the Miz?
"He does enough to be a small part, but he is nowhere near the caliber of WWE Champion"
"He must've made friends with somebody"
"When I look at the Miz, I am way better than him."
Okay Dan, okay...[/QUOTE]
He seems very bitter and so does Derrick.
Sad.
[QUOTE=Goo Punch;224821]Are you saying Evelyn could sue Abe because he accused her of taking roids? That's ridiculous. I know people try and sue each other over the dumbest things these days and California (along with Texas) is basically its own country, but that would be downright ludicrous. I'm sure a judge would throw that case out with a huge smirk across his face.[/QUOTE]
Considering she was an athlete and roid use is taken VERY seriously on any campus in the country, it's not that dumb of a suggestion for her to get legal counsel, considering allegations like that COULD have led to an investigation and greatly affected her college career, if he'd said something at the time. Even now, that's considered defamation of character and slander.
Also, women have taken roids and not blown up like dudes. It depends on how you work out, which muscle groups you're pushing the hardest when you train and that has a factor in it, too. I doubt she did use them, because her temper would have been MUCH worse but people do take them for more than body building, including endurance and speed.
[QUOTE=SPK713;224818]Being successful is a combination of both mic skills and in-ring abilities.
If you have somebody who can't talk well at all but is amazing in the ring, they won't be successful, it's been proven with former superstars like Shelton Benjamin, Evan Bourne, and MVP.
But you can't be a top superstar if you jump into the ring not knowing anything. Look at the Great Khali as an example. They gave him the belt but he couldn't put on a match for anything.
The Miz can wrestle well, it's just the matter of whether the WWE writers let him wrestler well or not.[/QUOTE]And then you got guys like Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Batista, John Cena (Although he's gotten much better over the years), etc, who are not great in ring workers but were still World Champions because they are popular characters and they draw in the most money.
I'm almost positive that Miz became the world champion almost 100% based on his charisma and mic skills. There's plenty of guys that are much better wrestlers than him in the WWE.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;224850]And then you got guys like Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Batista, John Cena (Although he's gotten much better over the years), etc, who are not great in ring workers but were still World Champions because they are popular characters and they draw in the most money.
I'm almost positive that Miz became the world champion almost 100% based on his charisma and mic skills. There's plenty of guys that are much better wrestlers than him in the WWE.[/QUOTE]
I'm confused though...I don't watch wrestling so idk but isn't it scripted for the most part? So doesn't that mean the WWF/WWE WANTED the Miz to win?
Btw Derrick/Kenny podcast was updated. It's a video of Kenny, Johnny, Derrick, Jenn, Tyler, and Camila watching episode 7 in their hotel before the reunion. Podcasts with Laurel and CT should be up this weekend.
[QUOTE=jhl182;224828]I'm glad you watched my videos that I made :). Don't mention my username, I don't want it to be removed lol. I enjoy making those compilations, especially showing moments many fans seem to forget.[/QUOTE]
You make those videos?? AAAH I love those!! I've watched them all like 5 times...lol
[QUOTE=JL81790;224853]I'm confused though...I don't watch wrestling so idk but isn't it scripted for the most part? So doesn't that mean the WWF/WWE WANTED the Miz to win?
[/QUOTE] In the WWE, you don't have to be a great in ring performer to be successful. The WWE pushed Miz to the top because he's charismatic and is one of the best mic-workers in the company, not necessarily because of his actual wrestling ability.
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