The Challenge: Cut Throat - Episode 4 Discussion

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I like Brad. I like Tori. I like Paula. But how on God's green earth is the red team so dumb?! Johnny has nothing to gain from an alliance with Camila. The only slight gain he could have would blatantly not benefit Camila. People are capable of liking Johnny Bananas, **** Paula and Tyler did until they needed a scapegoat for their bitterness.
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;217177]Considering Tori and Brad met when they were on opposite teams..but I think the point is that it's Johnny Bananas.[/QUOTE] True, but that was a factor in Tori's hate for the Rookie team. (even though the rookies were stupid and ******.)
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;217177]Considering Tori and Brad met when they were on opposite teams..but I think the point is that it's Johnny Bananas.[/QUOTE] That's what I meant. I understand they don't trust John and don't think it's totally off the mark to wonder about what's going on. But I think they seem a little overboard with how they are reacting. Now, Camila needs to watch out because Brad and co. are having issues with her hanging with John. This will be an easy excuse for them to try and get rid of her.
Ok in my opion these last 2 elmination rounds games have been the worst ever.
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I'm sorry but I would have voted Big E as well. I'm sorry but I will never forget Gauntlet 3, and will vote for him every chance I get.
[QUOTE=jones10389;217182]Ok in my opion these last 2 elmination rounds games have been the worst ever.[/QUOTE] Die Hard was a pretty good one. And Swat was creative. I don't think every elimination show be about physical strength, they need some curve balls in the challenge and that's what they have.
[QUOTE=jones10389;217182]Ok in my opion these last 2 elmination rounds games have been the worst ever.[/QUOTE] I kind of agree, I mean Handcuffs and Back Up Off Me were awesome, Die Hard was ok, but this one was lame. I do like how they want it to be a little more fair, but they gotta think of some good ones like Ascendor.
I still think Tori and Brad and them are blowing up the Camilla thing. If it were a situation where the other team votes in members of another team, I can see the reason to worry, but come on. They are desperate and looking for reasons to put someone in and worry. lol. That gulag was funny as ****. I don't blame Katie and Ayiiia for laughing through it. Awww..too bad Ayiiia had to go. I love Katie but I like seeing more of the new castmembers and Ayiiia is one new castmember who is actually interesting. She would have kept some Cara Maria drama going for sure. I don't mind Eric but I'm glad Luke won. I love Luke. The way he was able to get through that third round being soo slim up against a big guy is **** impressive. Ofcourse because he's small they will probably put him in again. I feel bad for the small guys on this challenge. Actually I think Luke would be better than Dan. I love Dan but even Kenny said he's the worst competitor he'd ever seen.
[QUOTE=Clarke;217185]Die Hard was a pretty good one. And Swat was creative. I don't think every elimination show be about physical strength, they need some curve balls in the challenge and that's what they have.[/QUOTE] I agree, but they could have physical ones where they don't have to use strength against each other. Ascendor, Hog Tie, Spool, etc. Spool and Ascendor were really good ebcause they were physical as well as mental.
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[QUOTE=RMD1;217172]HAHAHA your girl lost to my girl :D[/QUOTE] Hahaha I love Katie as well, and that elimation was such a joke LOL.....I will always be team Ayiiia she's HBIC for calling out Cara Maria :)!
This elimination round wasn't only silly it had some upper body aspects to it, you also had to hold a 20lb bucket with one arm, which isn't easy, especially while getting slapped in the face. It shows some upper body stregnth. I liked this Gulag and glad Katie won. Sent in twice and came out twice.
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One of the most creative eliminations to date. It was super fun to watch.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;217188]I agree, but they could have physical ones where they don't have to use strength against each other. Ascendor, Hog Tie, Spool, etc. Spool and Ascendor were really good ebcause they were physical as well as mental.[/QUOTE] True. I understand that you didn't like Swat and I'm not trying to change your mind but I liked it because he measured the challengers Heart by enduring the pain, strength by installing pain the other player and mental, creating a strategy as Luke did. They should have more eliminations that challenges all 3 aspects of the player.
[QUOTE=producer88;217189]Hahaha I love Katie as well, and that elimation was such a joke LOL.....I will always be team Ayiiia she's HBIC for calling out Cara Maria :)![/QUOTE] You know she's only doing it to protect herself, right? That's such BS. She's a rookie and hasn't really shown herself to stand out--why does she think she deserves something extra? They made a big deal about Cara Maria "crying", but really it just looks like she was crying out for help, which is kind of ok when your trachea is being crushed. You would think Ayiiia would understand the whole "freaking out when you can't breath" thing, being asthmatic. But no, it's just an easy excuse to point the finger at someone else. It's unfortunate that Eric had to go on again, and then lost, but he still hasn't proven himself to be strong where he once failed his team. He was given the benefit of the doubt once, and his team got bitten in the *** for it. If he wants people to get off his back, he needs to prove his endurance and ability to last a final. I'm glad Katie won this Gulag. 'Nuff said. Although I do wonder how Cara Maria would have done against her...
[QUOTE=Clarke;217193]True. I understand that you didn't like Swat and I'm not trying to change your mind but I liked it because he measured the challengers Heart by enduring the pain, strength by installing pain the other player and mental, creating a strategy as Luke did. They should have more eliminations that challenges all 3 aspects of the player.[/QUOTE] Haha it's not exactly that I didn't like it, because like you said, Luke used strategy while mantaining his upper body stability to keep the bucket up, which takes skill. I think it's more of the fact that these kind of eliminations don't let the people show how good of a competitor they are. I agree though with your last statement 100%.
I know this doesn't really show who is the best competitor or whatever, but still...it was funny as ****. Even Katie and Ayiiia couldn't stop laughing! And at least there was [I]some[/I] physical aspect to it, with the holding of the bucket. And Luke did use strategy to win, which was smart. Although I don't really think he proved too much (at least not to his team), for the unfortunate reason that this kind of Gulag really doesn't show what kind of competitor you are. Hopefully, though, they won't pick him to go in again soon.
I'm surprised Laurel voted for CM, since she didn't seem to agree with Aiiiya and Sarah in the dailies. However, Laurel made it about CM's crying, not about the romance thing. It still surprises me a bit, though. I can understand the team worrying about CM a little, but she was not the weak link on this one, so I couldn't agree with Aiiiya trying to make a big deal about her.
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I never said that ;)...I'm not getting into it, because well we are getting off topic now :)
[QUOTE=cystic;217103]Woohoo, 584th commercial break![/QUOTE] I know, right? The obstacle course was one of the coolest challenges they've done, although it didn't seem like the teams used nearly as much strategy as they could have. Blue and Gray looked like idiots having 4 dudes fighting in the back which let Red go through uncontested. Red was Ty's responsibility, but I'm guessing he got held back by a Gray and couldn't catch up to his Red target. SWAT was a big letdown, because it got my hopes up for something truly weird and bizarre for nothing. Hitting people in the face just isn't right, and they built this cool-looking contraption which really wasn't necessary to do the actual competition - the neck piece for the swatting wasn't needed, and they just needed a rope and pulley for the bucket.
Yeah, Ty kind of failed. Instead of targeting a red guy, they totally should have gone for the weakest person on each of the other teams, so the end would be about an all-out sprint, in which case it would be pathetic if Ty lost and he would have TOTALLY deserved to go in.
I'm not having a pity party for Ayiiia. She tried to bring up the Cara Maria/Abram thing for the sole purpose of taking the heat off her own ***, it could not have been any more transparent. And it was a silly argument to make, given not only her subpar performance in the mission, but also the fact that Cara Maria has already been voted into the Gulag (even though she was already fooling around with Abram when that happened) and won it. Ayiiia was the obvious candidate. Gotta love Abram though, voting for Sarah just for the **** of it. I don't even know what to say about the Big Easy thing. Nobody trusts him, I guess. I hope he can come back and show that he's worth a ****. He deserves to have that chance. It's not like he's completely useless like Casey and Shauvon are. Like he said now, someone else on the team has to be the whipping boy now. Enjoy it, Ty. I understand Brad's suspicion of Johnny but with the format of this game, cross-team alliances aren't going to do a thing, unless Johnny tells Camila to vote a certain way if her team loses, but that's not going to do much, since Camila's at the bottom of the red team totem pole and most of the team's just going to vote the way Brad/Tori want. Molds, great idea with the electric fly swatters. My parents used to have one in their house. Those things were a lot of fun. Would have been more entertaining than holding a bucket. I'll hand it to Luke though, he outsmarted Eric.
I was hoping they were going to put them in snorkels and make them compete as water flooded them to somehow get out of an S&M contraption. The flyswatters angle was a little goofy. I liked this episode better than any others this season since there was less conniving drunken politics, and Ayiia went home (sorry but it will take a lot to get the psycho taste out of my mouth after the way she was on Cancun).
[QUOTE=AJHill;217230] I don't even know what to say about the Big Easy thing. Nobody trusts him, I guess. I hope he can come back and show that he's worth a ****. He deserves to have that chance. It's not like he's completely useless like Casey and Shauvon are. Like he said now, someone else on the team has to be the whipping boy now. Enjoy it, Ty.... I'll hand it to Luke though, he outsmarted Eric.[/QUOTE] I would pick Eric on my team a lot earlier than most would I think. Luke did play it smart.
Interesting episode. That mission looked hard as ****!! Especially the last two parts of it. It was like no room to go through!! I do not know how they managaed to get through that. Ty lost it for the blue team and once again the Red team wins. That red team is looking mighty inflated. Voting Eric back in the goolag was unfair IMO. He proved himself in that mission and in the last gulag. Ty dropped the ball for the team AND he really hasnt done **** in the game. I just do not get what is sooo special about Ty?? Is he that big of an asset because I sure as **** do not see it. I personally would have voted Ty in there. An his arrogance is really REALLY annoying. Like he is the best thing to ever walk the earth. Didnt like him on the RW and do not like him now. I honestly do not see the big deal in this whole 'Camilla and Johnny' thing. IF they were smart they would figure out the Camilla has absolutely nothing to gain from being in an alliance with Johnny. I mean you're stuck in a house with all these people, you're gonna talk to them and be around them all the time. You gotta talk. I just dont get their concern. Seems a little weird. SIDEBAR: Please someone tell me they saw that HUGE red zit on Paula's face when they were all talking to Camilla on the whole Johnny thing. Dont act like you didn't see it!! That had to be one of the weirdest gulags ever!! It was kinda a cop out. I thought it would be something so much tougher but it wasnt. Ayiia leaving really didnt affect me. I was kinda sad to see Eric go. But at the same time I was not. Like he said he is gone now leaving a grand total of 3 guys on the blue team. Gee I wonder who is going in if they lose for the men?? I'll take Ty for 200. Next week: Ty is yelling and wanting to fight AGAIN!! What the **** else is new?? Did he not threaten to punch Katie in her face last week?? Yeah he's a loser. AND hold the press!! *** is happening to BRandon. Seems like he is in trouble or something!! I dont like it. HE is one of my favorites on the challenge!! Cant wait to see what goes down
on the preview for next week Dan gets to call his Mom because of temptations to drink. guess production left him use the phone only for his sobriety because I thought they weren't allowed to call anyone. Good to see him keeping his head straight and sticking to it! :D
Great mission , lame as **** Gulag. The only thing would have saved it would've been if Jenn was in it. I'd love to see her get smacked with a dirty fly swatter. Glad Eric went home. he was boring & useless. And Luke, why go for Camilla, you are way too good for her, as evidenced by her love for loudmouth Johnny.
I think the Red Team was getting a bit Paranoid about Camilla hanging around John. Camilla would have nothing to gain from that. Everyone on that teams seems to be following Brad and Tori Anyways(which is pathetic in my eyes). I didn't like to see Ayiiia going home. Is it just me or is anyone else getting Tired of the rookes getting the boot one after another. If things keep going like this we're gonna have the same old vets at the end AGAIN. But I didn't like how she tried to call out Cara Maria It's a good move to be banging the leader of the team. Ty hasn't been all that special in this challenge so I do think that he deserves to go in the Gulag. He probably will lose at some point(would be halarious if he lost to Chet). This challenge and Gulag were Crazy. But didn't understand why they needed to be chaned up like that.
These Cut Throat confessionals on MTV.com kind of suck. Sarah, Dunbar, Laurel, Paula, and Abram just isn't a good mix. It's been the same group every time, and they clearly filmed them all on the same day. Poor Abram barely talks in these and spends most of them looking completely bored out of his mind. I prefer the aftershows with Mark Long, much more entertaining.
To be fair I believe Cara Maria was attracted to Abe even before the teams were made. She approached him at the airport so it's not like she approached him because she knew he would help her make it to the end.
I totally thought round 3 of that gulag would be straight-up slapping with the hands. Now THAT would have been funny...although much more painful.

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