Cut Throat - Sarah Rice

[QUOTE=trees12;216403] Don't attack her personally, you don't know her. She's a wonderful human being. [/QUOTE] How funny is this. First you tell someone not to judge her as a person cause he/she doesn't know Sarah personally, and then you call her a wonderful human being as if you know her personally. How contradicting... It seems to me you're slightly obsessed with Sarah. No problem, but don't annoy everyone with it. I think Sarah is a GOOD competitor and has the potential to become GREAT once she wins against some female top dog, like Evelyn, Rachel or Laurel

Trees, are you Sarah's Grandma or something? You seem to take every little criticism of her personally.

Yeah, trees, do you know Sarah personally? I know it could be hurtful for someone to look down upon a challenger, especially if you know the person. Believe me, I know. But you also have to take constructive criticism and understand not everyone has the same opinion as you. Some people really dislike her, and not just people on Vevmo, some of the cast. Also, saying that to Shavoun wasn't nice. Honestly, whether she is good in competitions or not, what she said to Shavoun, and bringing her down, wasn't nice, any way you look at it. She should have bitten her tongue and kept sending her in. It wasn't Shavoun's fault she had a panic attack.

[QUOTE=trees12;216403] .....Scott, Devyn,Baya, and Katelyn all defended Sarah at the reunion and SAID Ryan was wrong in the way he treated her. They as well as I know she's not fake or a hypocrite. Just cause she says Jewish are my favorite, Gays are her favorite. WE NEVER SAID SHE WAS PERFECT. However, SHE Not a HYPOCRITE,and SHE DIDN'T CONTRADICT HERSELF. [/QUOTE] I don't really remember all those people defending her on what was aired but I think V1 man indicated there was a lot to that part that was not shown. I do think based on what of that original episode that was aired before the reunion, it seemed more like she just didn't express herself clearly. Considering Ryan's big exit stage right once fans bought his book, his own legitimacy would certainly be fair game. I am not loving the attitude she seems to have in these Challenges, but we do not get to see everything. I certainly am not as careful with my words on here as I sometimes should be. I don't think that being critical of what we see on TV really makes people think any given person is a horrible person in real life. People are complex and a lot of our responses depend on the situation we are in, and that goes for those on TV as well and people discussing them too.

Honestly, I don't buy into any of the Sarah great hype, what has she done thats anything special? Lose a final, and eat nasty foods, beat 2 below average competitiors and beat Kelly Anne in one part of the final so she thinks she's so good yet KA was beating her in everything else, yeah they had a good lead, but they still lost, She'd get beat by the Evelyn/Rachel/Tori/Laurel's of the game in an elimination pretty easily in my book.

[QUOTE=gjams24;216447]Honestly, I don't buy into any of the Sarah great hype, what has she done thats anything special? Lose a final, and eat nasty foods, beat 2 below average competitiors and beat Kelly Anne in one part of the final so she thinks she's so good yet KA was beating her in everything else, yeah they had a good lead, but they still lost, She'd get beat by the Evelyn/Rachel/Tori/Laurel's of the game in an elimination pretty easily in my book.[/QUOTE] Yes, I agree that she would get beaten by the Evelyn/Rachel/Laurel's of the game. Maybe not so much Tori, but that's just an issue of mental toughness/will to win. However, Sarah is loads better competitively than most of the girls that show up to these things. Do I think her attitude lately has been over-the-top competitive? Yes, but that doesn't mean she's a bad competitor. I would put her as one of the "worst of the best" girls, if that makes sense. As far as the Ruins final...she may have been slower than Kelly Anne in everything else, but from what we saw, the part that slowed KA down REALLY lost them a lot of time. Furthermore, the puzzle part of that final wasn't just a puzzle--those pieces were heavy, and having extra people moving the pieces to see how things should go is a huge help. Honestly, I have no idea how she is at puzzles, but I don't think that particular puzzle is the best measure of someone's puzzle-solving abilities.

I'd have to watch the episode again but I don't think she does that well with the puzzles in the exile on Fresh Meat 2, with Vinny as her partner, it was basically her doing all the puzzles.

[QUOTE=gjams24;216447]Honestly, I don't buy into any of the Sarah great hype, what has she done thats anything special? Lose a final, and eat nasty foods, beat 2 below average competitiors and beat Kelly Anne in one part of the final so she thinks she's so good yet KA was beating her in everything else, yeah they had a good lead, but they still lost, She'd get beat by the Evelyn/Rachel/Tori/Laurel's of the game in an elimination pretty easily in my book.[/QUOTE] I agree, I personally could think of many females who would beat Sarah more times than none or at least not have Sarah destroy them. Like I said above, she's never done anything amazing that makes her seem like this alpha-woman she makes herself out to be. I mean c'mon, I bet half the girls who would ever go against her would lose because they just got annoyed with her and quit, at least, that's how I'd probably lose to her, and I'm a guy.

I think she'd beat a lot of girls just because of pure size and strength aka the Aneesa factor, lol.

[QUOTE=gjams24;216460]I think she'd beat a lot of girls just because of pure size and strength aka the Aneesa factor, lol.[/QUOTE] I haven't paid attention to her physically this challenge, but recall that she also has/had big hips which could give her a little advantage if she is stronger around the waist.

[QUOTE=Moonpaw;216449]Yes, I agree that she would get beaten by the Evelyn/Rachel/Laurel's of the game. Maybe not so much Tori, but that's just an issue of mental toughness/will to win. However, Sarah is loads better competitively than most of the girls that show up to these things. Do I think her attitude lately has been over-the-top competitive? Yes, but that doesn't mean she's a bad competitor. I would put her as one of the "worst of the best" girls, if that makes sense. As far as the Ruins final...she may have been slower than Kelly Anne in everything else, but [B]from what we saw[/B], the part that slowed KA down REALLY lost them a lot of time. Furthermore, the puzzle part of that final wasn't just a puzzle--those pieces were heavy, and having extra people moving the pieces to see how things should go is a huge help. Honestly, I have no idea how she is at puzzles, but I don't think that particular puzzle is the best measure of someone's puzzle-solving abilities.[/QUOTE] They edited it to make it look like that was the ONLY event that led to their loss. The race was 4+ events with significant amounts of running between so there was a lot more going on than a bamboo beam. They also didn't show that KA had an injured knee. Her knee was injured to the point where she couldn't even do a regular workout for almost 8 months after. When I talked to her recently she was still having to do physical therapy to take care of it. Sarah's size advantage should help her take on a lot of girls in physical elimination rounds but we have already seen her do something very physical in a mission. In "Block Party" she had to drag Veronica across the line and she didn't do it in a good time despite having the help of Casey and Kim.

Who cares how strong you are yes maybe Sarah is not rachel or evelyn but even the toughest chicks can crack under pressure. That is why the males treat the girls like **** cause they do not come to compete so finally we get someone who wants to win who is a female!

[QUOTE=xajmx90;216473]Who cares how strong you are yes maybe Sarah is not rachel or evelyn but even the toughest chicks can crack under pressure. That is why the males treat the girls like **** cause they do not come to compete so finally we get someone who wants to win who is a female![/QUOTE] Most of the girls go to compete... Sarah is just more vocal about it.

I don't detest sarah because of her mediocre atheltic ability. It's because her of her loud, condescending attitude & overall ****** personality. She's like one of those weird people that has to have attention on them at all times so they are constantly chattering away about stuff no one else finds funny or interesting. I can see the faces of the other guests on the aftershow. They don't seem to care for her much either.

[QUOTE=Entropy;216480]Sara, Evelyn, Laurel, Rachel Robinson, Paula are all girls who go to these things to compete.[/QUOTE] I might have to disagree with you on Paula.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;216475][B]Most[/B] of the girls go to compete... Sarah is just more vocal about it.[/QUOTE] I think Sarah is one of the only ones who go at it with such intensity.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;216511]I might have to disagree with you on Paula.[/QUOTE] Eh, I'd say Paula goes to compete, on this challenge at least. But to say [I]most[/I] girls don't go to compete is an overstatement (I know you didn't say it, just saying to the person who did). Jodi, Kina, Aneesa, Jenn, Robin, Coral, Beth, Tina etc. don't go to compete? Those are just a few more girls I came up with very quickly, if I thought more about it I could think of at least 15 more who could possibly be coming back soon.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;216511]I might have to disagree with you on Paula.[/QUOTE] Did you see her on FM2? She was definitely there to compete.

[QUOTE=DerrickFTW;216418]How funny is this. First you tell someone not to judge her as a person cause he/she doesn't know Sarah personally, and then you call her a wonderful human being as if you know her personally. How contradicting... It seems to me you're slightly obsessed with Sarah. No problem, but don't annoy everyone with it. I think Sarah is a GOOD competitor and has the potential to become GREAT once she wins against some female top dog, like Evelyn, Rachel or Laurel[/QUOTE] I'm not obsessed with Sarah. Sarah's a friend. Sarah is only getting better as a competitor. She already has shown that she can be great. [QUOTE=dylan76;216419]Trees, are you Sarah's Grandma or something? You seem to take every little criticism of her personally.[/QUOTE] No, not family. I don't take UNFOUNDED cricism of a friend lightly. [QUOTE=Entropy;216411]How do you know she is a wonderful human being? Have you met her personally if you have then awesome, but on the last 2 Challenges Sarah has proven to not be wonderful at all, on FM2 she talked smack to Katelynn cause she wasn't on Kenny's side, and on this one she lied to Vinny's face about the reason she was voting for him, and as for wonderful human being..what she did to Shauvon regardless of how pathetic she may be in this Challenges, was borderline cruel. As for her screaming to motivate her team? How does.. "Im sick and tired of losing with you on my team" motivate anyone? or how is it motivation telling her to quit? What Abram tried to do it was motivation, what Sarah did was ****. Yeah she may be an above average competitor, but her two BIG wins where over Katie and Johanna..two girls who have never been called "great competitors" at all. On FM2 she was the second person sent home, and she may have helped her team during the gas mission, but why didn't she take over when Abram's plan failed on the hanging down mission? Sarah is nothing more than an above average competitor with an inflated ego. But hey..she probably is a wonderful human being.[/QUOTE] She's a good friend. She would never do anything to hurt Katelyn. They've had there disagreements, but she has alkways been there for Katelyn and supported her. She was trying to help Shavon and her team at the same time. Take off someone bringing their team down. While trying to get through to Shavon, so she wouldn't hurt herself physically and or emotionally any more on these challenges. She dosen't have an inflated ego. However, she has confidence/motivation and that key. [QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;216420]Yeah, trees, do you know Sarah personally? I know it could be hurtful for someone to look down upon a challenger, especially if you know the person. Believe me, I know. But you also have to take constructive criticism and understand not everyone has the same opinion as you. Some people really dislike her, and not just people on Vevmo, some of the cast. Also, saying that to Shavoun wasn't nice. Honestly, whether she is good in competitions or not, what she said to Shavoun, and bringing her down, wasn't nice, any way you look at it. She should have bitten her tongue and kept sending her in. It wasn't Shavoun's fault she had a panic attack.[/QUOTE] She was trying to help her team as well as help Shavon help herself. [QUOTE=SeanDaniel;216438]I don't really remember all those people defending her on what was aired but I think V1 man indicated there was a lot to that part that was not shown. I do think based on what of that original episode that was aired before the reunion, it seemed more like she just didn't express herself clearly. Considering Ryan's big exit stage right once fans bought his book, his own legitimacy would certainly be fair game. I am not loving the attitude she seems to have in these Challenges, but we do not get to see everything. I certainly am not as careful with my words on here as I sometimes should be. I don't think that being critical of what we see on TV really makes people think any given person is a horrible person in real life. People are complex and a lot of our responses depend on the situation we are in, and that goes for those on TV as well and people discussing them too.[/QUOTE] The parts with those defending Sarah weren't shown as much to a degree because it was edited out. [QUOTE=gjams24;216447]Honestly, I don't buy into any of the Sarah great hype, what has she done thats anything special? Lose a final, and eat nasty foods, beat 2 below average competitiors and beat Kelly Anne in one part of the final so she thinks she's so good yet KA was beating her in everything else, yeah they had a good lead, but they still lost, She'd get beat by the Evelyn/Rachel/Tori/Laurel's of the game in an elimination pretty easily in my book.[/QUOTE] Sarah is great.

You need to learn in life, that not everyone will see your point of view. People have different opinions. A lot of us don't like her and never will. I personally, find her to be a *********. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=dylan76;216823]You need to learn in life, that not everyone will see your point of view. People have different opinions. A lot of us don't like her and never will. I personally, find her to be a *********. Deal with it.[/QUOTE] Wow its interesting you have so much hate in your heart. There is no need to start cursing and calling her those hateful names. However, I realize it's easy to spew ignorance and hate while hiding behind a computer. You need to search within yourself, find happiness, and stop looking to use others as a scapegoat.

This freaking thread is cracking me up... good stuff !!

[QUOTE=trees12;216831]Wow its interesting you have so much hate in your heart. There is no need to start cursing and calling her those hateful names. However, I realize it's easy to spew ignorance and hate while hiding behind a computer. You need to search within yourself, find happiness, and stop looking to use others as a scapegoat.[/QUOTE] If you're honestly expecting someone to not voice their own differing opinion, the internet may not be the place for you. I'm not saying that as an insult. I'm saying that as the truth. Dylan disagrees with you and doesn't like Sarah. Disliking someone doesn't automatically equate to "hate speech" and "ignorance". We see someone act on reality television and we're going to react to it based on our own opinion. Fact of the matter is, the way you talk down to Dylan for disagreeing with you is pretty ignorant in itself along with the way that you turn his opinion into a "Your life is messed up and you need to improve it". Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=Euroslavia;216837]If you're honestly expecting someone to not voice their own differing opinion, the internet may not be the place for you. I'm not saying that as an insult. I'm saying that as the truth. Dylan disagrees with you and doesn't like Sarah. Disliking someone doesn't automatically equate to "hate speech" and "ignorance". We see someone act on reality television and we're going to react to it based on our own opinion. Fact of the matter is, the way you talk down to Dylan for disagreeing with you is pretty ignorant in itself along with the way that you turn his opinion into a "Your life is messed up and you need to improve it". Just sayin'.[/QUOTE] Exactly !! Well said.

[QUOTE=Euroslavia;216837]If you're honestly expecting someone to not voice their own differing opinion, the internet may not be the place for you. I'm not saying that as an insult. I'm saying that as the truth. Dylan disagrees with you and doesn't like Sarah. Disliking someone doesn't automatically equate to "hate speech" and "ignorance". We see someone act on reality television and we're going to react to it based on our own opinion. Fact of the matter is, the way you talk down to Dylan for disagreeing with you is pretty ignorant in itself along with the way that you turn his opinion into a "Your life is messed up and you need to improve it". Just sayin'.[/QUOTE] Dylan just called her some bad word example he sais Sarah's a ******. His words not mine. That the hate I'm talking about. That is when I really decided to start talking down to him about his life. He showed his dislike efore. However, he just brought it to a whole other level.

[QUOTE=trees12;216839]Dylan just called her some bad word example he sais Sarah's a ******. His words not mine. That the hate I'm talking about.[/QUOTE] And like I said, opinion. Internet. As harsh as it may sound, you should really get used to it, otherwise you're going to find yourself in a lot of compromising situations where you won't be taken seriously by refusing to accept that other people have opinions (and yes, sometimes very strong opinions like Dylan). As I said before, people have the right to watch the show and react to it in different ways. After the first episode with Theresa's outburst towards Camila, would it be wrong for me to think that Theresa was extremely mean even if you were her friend? No, because it's an opinion and I'm entitled to that. Some people might've agreed with Theresa because the odds seemed against Camila. But you know what? They're entitled to feel that way too. (Slightly off-topic from discussing Sarah, my apologies. Just trying to find a somewhat usable example) In short, you need to learn to respect that there will quite often be someone who disagrees with you in most situations.

[QUOTE=Euroslavia;216843]And like I said, opinion. Internet. As harsh as it may sound, you should really get used to it, otherwise you're going to find yourself in a lot of compromising situations where you won't be taken seriously by refusing to accept that other people have opinions (and yes, sometimes very strong opinions like Dylan). As I said before, people have the right to watch the show and react to it in different ways. After the first episode with Theresa's outburst towards Camila, would it be wrong for me to think that Theresa was extremely mean even if you were her friend? No, because it's an opinion and I'm entitled to that. Some people might've agreed with Theresa because the odds seemed against Camila. But you know what? They're entitled to feel that way too. (Slightly off-topic from discussing Sarah, my apologies. Just trying to find a somewhat usable example) In short, you need to learn to respect that there will quite often be someone who disagrees with you in most situations.[/QUOTE] My point is you or anyone can have an opinion. For example competitor X was mean by sending in competitor X more times than necessary. Then i might counter it if necessary with a mature counter argument. However, people shouldn't take it to another level and say competitor X is *****. Because when they take their attack to another level, I then take my counter argument to another level. However, i would prefer that any criticism if necessary to me mature and constructive. Most if not all the criticisms of Sarah have been anything, but constructive.

[QUOTE=trees12;216846]My point is you or anyone can have an opinion. For example competitor X was mean by sending in competitor X more times than necessary. Then i might counter it if necessary with a mature counter argument. However, people shouldn't take it to another level and say competitor X is *****. [B]Because when they take their attack to another level, I then take my counter argument to another level.[/B] However, i would prefer that any criticism if necessary to me mature and constructive. Most if not all the criticisms of Sarah have been anything, but constructive.[/QUOTE] Yeah...that's really not necessary.