[QUOTE=OrangeStar;213968]This whole challenge is based on being fake and lying about who you are voting for, or what do you think is the purpose of secret votes? I just think it's ridiculous to expect Brad holding onto some holy standards no other player in these challenges ever fulfilled...particularly after losing in every challenge by being a good guy. I won't even comment on your insinuations regarding the Gauntlet 3. So you think he only cared about Eric because, well, he had some money in the bag through Tori? Thats really low.[/QUOTE]
You said that there is no reason to call Brad FAKE. I clearly gave you an example of his fakeness. Now you are justifying his fraudulence by saying that everybody does it. Do you see something wrong here?
The whole game is based on being fake and deceitful, everybody knows that, and few have a problem with it. What is irritating, is the fact that people still think Brad is some sort of ethical honest player. He is no better than JEKD, but people swear that he is.
Brad loses in challenges because he's a good guy? What good did he do in the Duel, Duel 2, Ruins, and Gauntlet 3 that prevented him from winning? He's always played the game scummy and he has always been apart of alliances. He just never gets the top prize because he's never great enough.
[QUOTE=Entropy;213971]Guys lets go back on topic before molds get angry[/QUOTE]
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Here's a good quote about the game.
"The game used to play me, now I know how to play the game." - Veronica
Let's brad have his time to play the game and win!
[QUOTE=v123;213959]Brad: "I truly believe things will get better"
Brandon: "Ok"
Brad: "Unfortunately Brandon will be going in again"
That's not fake? He lied to his face, lied through his teeth.[/QUOTE]
A lot of the people that have been going on and losing time and time again said they learn it doesn't pay to play an honest game.
It's about how you treat people, not belittling or humiliating them, what makes an ethical player. I'll leave it at that. Thats the main difference between JEK (I leave out D here purposely) and other alliances. Being fake to me in those challenges consists of treating others like cr*p and insulting them, not about alliances and lies that are the base of this game.
But, opinions differ, and that's great ;)
Edit: On another note, this part - Brad: "I truly believe things will get better" - Brandon: "Ok" - Brad: "Unfortunately Brandon will be going in again" - might as well be smart editing - Brad's confessional might easily be from before the second gulag, not after.
[QUOTE=OrangeStar;213987]Edit: On another note, this part - Brad: "I truly believe things will get better" - Brandon: "Ok" - Brad: "Unfortunately Brandon will be going in again" - might as well be smart editing - Brad's confessional might easily be from before the second gulag, not after.[/QUOTE]
That's a really good point. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's what happened.
[QUOTE=molds13;213960]Back on topic...
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Hahah go Emilee! Nice to see how Brandon was percieved from somebody not on his team.
I forgot what challenge it was back in the day, but I remember when Brad was crying and acting like a baby because a group of veterans (I think it was like Timmy, David, and Mark) had an alliance and he got "screwed" over by it. In that instance, not only were those three guys longtime friends, but I would've taken any of those three guys over Brad on my team as competitors as well, so their alliance also made sense from a competition standpoint of building the strongest team.
Now he is turning around and orchestrating the same kind of plot against a newcomer, Brandon. Dunbar hasn't proven to be anything spectacular on these challenges (he has honestly disappointed me more than any other castmember in history with his performance on the challenges, he looks like he should be A LOT better than what he does). Chet also looks frail and weak and doesn't look like he has that "switch" that he can turn on to get amped up for a physical, 1-on-1 encounter. To me, Brandon seems to be a much more well-rounded competitor than both of those two.
How somebody could go and practice something that they preached so negatively against when they first started off doing challenges really gives an insight to their true character... and whenever Brad has been heavily intoxicated on these shows dating back to his Real World season, we have seen his character of a belligerent, confrontational punk with all bark and no bite come out several times. He isn't the standup goody-two-shoes guy he plays in his confessionals.
I just sit and laugh watching The Ruins & then this challenge and watching him act like he's a don on these challenges and watching him lead a team like he's one of the big dogs. He was handled quite easily by two of the smaller elite players on the challenges (Abe & Derrick) and was handed his *** from a physical standpoint by two of the bigger guys as well (Landon & CT). Every other challenge he's been on, he's been a sheep following what the Mike's, the CT's, and the Evan's tell him just to stay in good graces socially with the leaders of the team.
And as for people who think he's this great guy for how he stood up for Eric on Gauntlet 3, that was an act for the cameras just like Evan's little speech was after Eric was sent off on a stretcher. I don't know if he sent it to every castmember that was on their team, but CT got an email from Brad shortly after Gauntlet 3 ended filming that revealed his true colors and feelings as to Eric costing their team $300,000. There was nothing stand-up about it and reflected feelings that were competely opposite of how he acted during the final mission.
Something just came to me while watching a replay from the episode. I wonder if Brad and Abram had any flashbacks to their Inferno 2 battle. Walking into the elimination, barrel(s), would've been something nice for Abe to remember.
[QUOTE=townie;214015]I forgot what challenge it was back in the day, but I remember when Brad was crying and acting like a baby because a group of veterans (I think it was like Timmy, David, and Mark) had an alliance and he got "screwed" over by it. In that instance, not only were those three guys longtime friends, but I would've taken any of those three guys over Brad on my team as competitors as well, so their alliance also made sense from a competition standpoint of building the strongest team.
Now he is turning around and orchestrating the same kind of plot against a newcomer, Brandon. Dunbar hasn't proven to be anything spectacular on these challenges (he has honestly disappointed me more than any other castmember in history with his performance on the challenges, he looks like he should be A LOT better than what he does). Chet also looks frail and weak and doesn't look like he has that "switch" that he can turn on to get amped up for a physical, 1-on-1 encounter. To me, Brandon seems to be a much more well-rounded competitor than both of those two.
How somebody could go and practice something that they preached so negatively against when they first started off doing challenges really gives an insight to their true character... and whenever Brad has been heavily intoxicated on these shows dating back to his Real World season, we have seen his character of a belligerent, confrontational punk with all bark and no bite come out several times. He isn't the standup goody-two-shoes guy he plays in his confessionals.
I just sit and laugh watching The Ruins & then this challenge and watching him act like he's a don on these challenges and watching him lead a team like he's one of the big dogs. He was handled quite easily by two of the smaller elite players on the challenges (Abe & Derrick) and was handed his *** from a physical standpoint by two of the bigger guys as well (Landon & CT). Every other challenge he's been on, he's been a sheep following what the Mike's, the CT's, and the Evan's tell him just to stay in good graces socially with the leaders of the team.
And as for people who think he's this great guy for how he stood up for Eric on Gauntlet 3, that was an act for the cameras just like Evan's little speech was after Eric was sent off on a stretcher. I don't know if he sent it to every castmember that was on their team, but CT got an email from Brad shortly after Gauntlet 3 ended filming that revealed his true colors and feelings as to Eric costing their team $300,000. There was nothing stand-up about it and reflected feelings that were competely opposite of how he acted during the final mission.[/QUOTE]
Brad's incompetent record speaks for itself. I've often been criticized on here for being direct about the way he plays the game. Eveyone gave him credit for shaking the pole against CT and shaking the ring vs Landon is 2 Duels that he clearly got owned.
The push me duel against CT was pathetic. It should take a **** of alot longer than 10 seconds, and I don't give a **** how big or small someone is, to push them in a circumference area of 15 feet as if they weren't there when there is an opposing force on you from a 180 lb man. CT should have been awarded that Duel by TKO.
He has won only 2 elimination rounds aside from those duels he stole and they we against 2 bigger guys where agility was involved. Where he couldn't win, he provoked a fight and was dropped like a bad habit, and then give this media spin to fool the general public that he is so remorseful. Brad should quit challenges and get into drama/the arts/acting.
The only saving grace hopefully is that Brandon will garner the respect of many both vets and rookies in future challenges as a stronger player
Brad is a flat out scrub from a physical standpoint & is too much of a ****** bag to realize where he falls on the food chain as it compares to the top guys on these challenges.
On Inferno 2, Abe was absolutely destroying him like nobody's business and Brad couldn't even get the ball in the hoop... then when he finally did get one in, he was shoving Abe like he was some big tough guy. On Duel 1 after he beat Eric and was talking with Wes afterwards, he's standing with his arms cross flexing like he was some sort of force to be wreckoned with... then before he went against CT, he was flaring his nostrils and mean mugging like it was going to intimidate him. He did the same thing on Duel 2 against Landon, making these mean faces at him in the middle of the circle after Landon would get done tossing him around... like Landon was going to suddendly become scared of him. I also don't know what was up with him yelling at Darrell & flexing his 155 pound frame while doing so either... it's too bad Darrell got sent home for knocking him down a few pegs.
[QUOTE=OrangeStar;213943]Brandon complaining about getting sent in again, but himself voting for Camilla? That's rather ridiculous, and stops me from feeling sorry for him.[/QUOTE]
Great point.
I see how some people can say it's a good point, but Brandon's a bigger asset to the team than Camila. Yeah Mandi's not much better, but if we were to rank the cast, Brandon would be above a lot of guys while Camila would only be above a few girls.
So you can look at it in one of two ways, him saying that is unfair because he's being a hypocrite, or he's saying it because he feels he makes more of an impact positively for the red team than Camila. I prefer the latter, but thats just me.
First off it was BS that Brandon got sent in again when in fact there are other guys on that team that aren't spectacular Dunbar? Chet? Why don't you send them in? Brad sits there and says that this isn't about friends but I bet if it was Tori and/or someone else he was close with getting thrown in unfairly he would be changing his tune real quick. These people are really keen on keeping their friends and **** buddies around for as long as possible and Brad knows this.
This is exactly why the rookies need to ban together and take out the vets. Why don't they do this? I mean they still have the numbers and they are voting in SECRET now and STILL none of them grow some balls and/or brains and try to take this game for themselves. The same things are happening. The Rookies are still getting picked off one by one. When will they ever get a **** Clue? I would just love to see a challenge where the rookies don't just allow the the vets to run things and forget these silly little challenge "traditions" and take this game for themselves. I don't think there's ever been a challenge where that happens.
LOL @ Cara Marie and Abram breaking that hammock.
Oh and Townie the Challenge you're talking about is Battle of the Sexes 2. That was Brad's 1st challenge.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;214201]First off it was BS that Brandon got sent in again when in fact there are other guys on that team that aren't spectacular Dunbar? Chet? Why don't you send them in? Brad sits there and says that this isn't about friends but I bet if it was Tori and/or someone else he was close with getting thrown in unfairly he would be changing his tune real quick. These people are really keen on keeping their friends and **** buddies around for as long as possible and Brad knows this.
This is exactly why the rookies need to ban together and take out the vets. Why don't they do this? I mean they still have the numbers and they are voting in SECRET now and STILL none of them grow some balls and/or brains and try to take this game for themselves. The same things are happening. The Rookies are still getting picked off one by one. When will they ever get a **** Clue? I would just love to see a challenge where the rookies don't just allow the the vets to run things and forget these silly little challenge "traditions" and take this game for themselves. I don't think there's ever been a challenge where that happens.
LOL @ Cara Marie and Abram breaking that hammock.
Oh and Townie the Challenge you're talking about is Battle of the Sexes 2. That was Brad's 1st challenge.[/QUOTE]
I dont think that would work on the Red team. The Red team has a whole lot more vets than rookies, or at least people that have formed friendships over the years. I think the grey team is a team where to rookies could do that.
Personally, I think if Brad is using the Derrick and Darrell method of trying to keep a low profile and go along with what the team does to make it to the end and see what happens then he is making the right move. Few people can actually do that strategy and pull if off bc you have to be somewhat feared to do it, but its the best proven strategy if you can pull it off IMO. Dont get me wrong, id be ****** if I was Brandon, but he got dealt a bad hand being on a team full of friends and its not up to Brad to fight every injustice.
I really liked the intro, at least, the idea behind it. The blue team was lucky they got the cars because I think that they arrived best haha. What I didn't like was that the cast looked umm...unprepared for their turn, especially the red team getting off the plane. Their hair was blowing and some weren't looking at the camera. Oh well, pretty good.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;214350]I really liked the intro, at least, the idea behind it. The blue team was lucky they got the cars because I think that they arrived best haha. What I didn't like was that the cast looked umm...unprepared for their turn, especially the red team getting off the plane. Their hair was blowing and some weren't looking at the camera. Oh well, pretty good.[/QUOTE]
I am glad to see they are trying to do something different editing wise with that. It has a very Euro feel to it (almost cheesy) which works with Prague.
I actually thought Brad had more integrity and wouldn't lower himself to that level, but I was wrong. I believe Timmy had the most intergrity, he never lowered himself just to win money.
At this point brad wants to win of course he will do anything now .... and POOR PAULA if she gets screwed now it will be johnny, kenny ,evan, and brad, and possibly dunbar for backstabbing her lol
[QUOTE=Superboy;214394]I actually thought Brad had more integrity and wouldn't lower himself to that level, but[B][U] I was wrong[/U][/B]. I believe Timmy had the most intergrity, he never lowered himself just to win money.[/QUOTE]
Wow, never thought I'd hear those words come from you.
I would also put Abe up there with having integrity. It takes guts to own up to your fault, and vote yourself in. So unlike other players, you don't find players with integrity nowadays.
By the way, did anyone see Laurel's twitter and facebook page with her apologizing? Do you think Eric and others should accept the apology or do you think it's not sincere?
[QUOTE=Superboy;214394]I actually thought Brad had more integrity and wouldn't lower himself to that level, but I was wrong. I believe Timmy had the most intergrity, he never lowered himself just to win money.[/QUOTE]
Timmy was part of the Road Rules cast that threw Challenges to try and get Katie off of Inferno 1, so while not as evil as most of the things we've seen he isn't afraid of getting his hands dirty.
[B]Album[/B] has a point, this challenge is the perfect opportunity for the rookies and newbies to band together and get rid of vets. The voting rules are almost rigged for them to do so (lol). It's like.... what more can the producers do to help you guys out since all you ever do is ***** about you being voted in because this is your 1st or 2nd challenge?
Thing is the rookies also risk having those veterans who have experience when they get to a final. I have nothing against this rite of passage for rookies, its how it has always been.
True it is traditional for rookies to go home first but Coral and veronica def did not have to go through that so i'd say as long as your a good competitor there is a good chance you can make it to the end like sarah but you have to pay your dues as in going into these elimination rounds and try and be that tough little cookie you know you can be
[QUOTE=Entropy;214408]Timmy was part of the Road Rules cast that threw Challenges to try and get Katie off of Inferno 1, so while not as evil as most of the things we've seen he isn't afraid of getting his hands dirty.[/QUOTE]
The Road Rulers did the right thing......katie was not only a weak player, but wouldn't take part in a mission because she was too afraid. If you were trying to win money would you want someone like Katie on your team?
That doesnt make it right, regardless the reason it was still shady, and btw Katie proved to be an asset on that final mission..so yeah I wouldnt mind winning a few thousand dollars with Katie.
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