The Challenge Series: RW/RR (Generic Thread)

[QUOTE=Francid;209684]BMP is already making availability calls for Fresh Meat III. It will be filming in early November in the South Pacific. I know because a friend of mine got a call. He was a Real World finalist. He turned it down as he's in school and the semester has already started. From the short conversation he had with the casting director, it was apparent that the cast would be made up of new meat, plus season 1 and season 2 new meat. So an all Fresh Meat challenge, with the new meat teaming up with cast members from the first two seasons. Should be pretty sweet.[/QUOTE] That's the worst thing ever. No RR/RW alumni? WHAT THE HELL. I hope this isn't true. If it is true, I will not watch it.

[QUOTE=Superboy;209604]The thing is I actually know what i'm talking about because i've seen all the challenges and analzyed them. I can make a more accurate top ten list, more so than anyone here i'm sure.....especially from what i've seen. And there wouldn't be a debate if people actually knew what they were talking about.[/QUOTE] Hahahahahhaha, you're funny..... and SO wrong. Stop being so arrogant. [QUOTE=AJHill;209631]The problem is, you have a hard time presenting facts. Instead of giving solid empirical evidence, you give biased arguments and say stuff like "this guy can run faster than this guy because on one Challenge that the other guy wasn't even on I saw one guy run ahead of people". You think you know more than everyone even though your arguments very rarely make any sense. Your inflated opinion of yourself isn't helping your cause. A challenge competitors expert? Please.[/QUOTE] Agreed times 10 [QUOTE=faceless;209680]Really? Well I'm Santa. What do you want for Christmas?[/QUOTE] LMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;209683]Hahahhahahahaha. Did anyone else burst out laughing? Maybe he's like in the CIA for MTV's Challenges. I may disagree with AJhill on some things, but atleast he is rational and understands the game. You, Superboy, are off your rocker. Who says they are a challenge competitors expert? I bet almost everyone here has watched each season over and over again. Everyone on here knows who's good and who isn't, and who's had their good days and who's had their bad days. Don't think you are anything special. Unless you are like Barbara Walters and interviewed each and every challenge competitor personally, you are just like everyone else. So simmer down.[/QUOTE] I did burst out laughing lol!!!!!

[QUOTE=jhl182;209687]That's the worst thing ever. No RR/RW alumni? WHAT THE HELL. I hope this isn't true. If it is true, I will not watch it.[/QUOTE] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7748][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/14c9bc34cef134.jpg[/img][/url]

I highly doubt it to yankeegirl. Francid I call total bs on your post because from what ive read from the Cut Throat spoilers they never tell the cast months ahead what format it is or location.

Lmao @ the pic Bacchus posted.

Also, it's been said that CT was one of the cast members that was called in the first round of phone calls, so why would he have been called if it was only going to be FM/FM2 alumni?

[QUOTE=Superboy;209402] What do you mean by mentally strong? Forming alliances and things like that is not mental strength, but smarts and cowardness. Mental strength is being aggressive, focused, controlled, having endurance, and taking yourself to another level in order to win. The best examples of mentally strong male competitors are the Miz, Abram, and Derrick. The best examples of mentally strong female competitors are Emily(RR), Ellen, Kendal, and surprisingly Susie.[/QUOTE] I think I'd put Evan up there according to ur definition of "mentally strong" He and Coral mostly dominated FM, even through his pain, he endured. In The Duel 2, Although he didn't pair up with the best of the 3 girl challengers in the final, he pushed himself to catch up to Brad and beat him. I don't think he's mentally weak [QUOTE=Superboy;209591]She beat Tina in an event that favored her. She won the life shield on the last mission before the final because it was a mission that she happened to excel at, plus you can bet Miz and Syrus were not trying to get a fast time anyways just so Coral can be safe from the Inferno. On Fresh Meat 1, she was good, but still not impressive enough to be considered top 10 female competitor all time. I can name 10 female competitors who were all better competitors than Coral.[/QUOTE] See when you start to say that all the challenges Coral beat someone else in "suited her", that's when you judged her strength unfairly. She's proved herself, stop saying that she "coincidentally" had an advantage in all. That makes no sense, just admit, she's a solid competitor [QUOTE=Npresh24;209603]Has Anessa ever won a challange.[/QUOTE] Aneesa has won a couple elimination rounds, proving herself to be a force to reckon with, at least in elimination rounds. She took out Tori in the Duel before the final. She came in 3rd in the Duel 2 although she sucked at the final challenge, showing her weakness in running long distances etc. However, she did earn her spot in the finals and she finished, no matter what. (with the help of Mark of course ;) )

After the new crop of FM2 kids plus that SB girl I highly doubt they would add a third FM cast. Especially when they just finished doing a FM a challenge ago.

[QUOTE=XxJulieCxX;209690]I highly doubt it to yankeegirl. Francid I call total bs on your post because from what ive read from the Cut Throat spoilers they never tell the cast months ahead what format it is or location.[/QUOTE] I heard the same thing last week, although not about the location. It is going to be FM3. They are doing casting calls right now to real world applicants.

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[QUOTE=AJHill;209631]The problem is, you have a hard time presenting facts. Instead of giving solid empirical evidence, you give biased arguments and say stuff like "this guy can run faster than this guy because on one Challenge that the other guy wasn't even on I saw one guy run ahead of people". You think you know more than everyone even though your arguments very rarely make any sense. Your inflated opinion of yourself isn't helping your cause. A challenge competitors expert? Please.[/QUOTE] ROFL !! Well said.

[QUOTE=faceless;209680]Really? Well I'm Santa. What do you want for Christmas?[/QUOTE] ROFL again !! This thread is hilarious.

Does anybody remember me throwing out the idea that they might do a FM challenge for every other challenge? Its one of the best ways to get more challengers. I'd love to watch it. If it is, in fact, true; I want the followinf FM folks to be partners: 1)Vinny 2)Pete 3)Kenny 4)Evan 5)Eric 6)Noor 7)Jeff 8)Mandi 9)Teresa 10)Laurel 11)Sydney 12)Sandy 13)Carley 14)Diem 15)Cara Maria I'd love to see some AMAZING competitors emerge from FM3! ;) [B]ASSUMING IT IS FM3!!![/B]

Remember how long it took to make a FM2 after FM1? They had casting calls for FM2, shortly after FM1, then nixed the idea for a good 3 years. I am almost 100% certain the next challenge wont be FM3.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;209712]Remember how long it took to make a FM2 after FM1? They had casting calls for FM2, shortly after FM1, then nixed the idea for a good 3 years. I am almost 100% certain the next challenge wont be FM3.[/QUOTE] You're basing your confidence on the fact that there was a long time between the first and second FM challenges. You should realize by now that many challengers have done most of the challenges between FM1 & 2. Derrick, Brad, Robin, Diem, CT has done 4 challenges since FM1...Kenny has done every single challenge since FM1, except for D2. There will come a time when older Vets will be replaced. If we want to keep the challenges going, we need to introduce as many new challengers as we can. And new people means new drama, new rivalries, and possibly a new game. It appears to have become more socially-focused. A new wave of challengers can re-shift the game into a different format. I'll keep watching, regardless, But I don't mind new FM. I just don't like the original FM. I mean they aren't still "fresh". They've become somewhat stale. (i.e. Casey, Diem, Ryan, Eric.) Heck, we might come accross someone as extreme as Ayanna or Coral. Or someone as athletic as Wes, CT, Derrick, or Alton; Or someone funny like Isaaic or Chet . New "meat" doesn't sound that horrible to me. Just my opinion, though!:)

The FM3 thing was joke meant to add a little excitement to this thread on a slow Thursday afternoon. Move along. Nothing to see here. :D

[quote=bacchus;209717]the fm3 thing was joke meant to add a little excitement to this thread on a slow thursday afternoon. Move along. Nothing to see here. :d[/quote] ohhh...so cruel! Lol! Just plain cold-blooded!!! Hahaha!! :(

[QUOTE=AJHill;209631]The problem is, you have a hard time presenting facts. Instead of giving solid empirical evidence, you give biased arguments and say stuff like "this guy can run faster than this guy because on one Challenge that the other guy wasn't even on I saw one guy run ahead of people". You think you know more than everyone even though your arguments very rarely make any sense. Your inflated opinion of yourself isn't helping your cause. [B]A challenge competitors expert? [/B]Please.[/QUOTE] I'll give you an example...... who is a better competitor all time.... Theo V or Dan(RR5)? A)Theo B)Dan C)Too close to choose Choose an answer.

[QUOTE=Superboy;209725]I'll give you an example...... who is a better competitor all time.... Theo V or Dan(RR5)? A)Theo B)Dan C)Too close to choose Choose an answer.[/QUOTE] You may have the "facts" but it's still your opinion on how important or how much of an impact those "facts" have. Alton did great G1 and G2 but not so great on I3. Some people may think that his showing on I3 drastically dropped his rating or only slightly dropped it.

[QUOTE]I think I'd put Evan up there according to ur definition of "mentally strong" He and Coral mostly dominated FM, even through his pain, he endured. In The Duel 2, Although he didn't pair up with the best of the 3 girl challengers in the final, he pushed himself to catch up to Brad and beat him. I don't think he's mentally weak[/QUOTE] Right.....and that's why he always gets flustered during elimination rounds and even tried to cheat once(remember his Duel against CT and the puzzle?). There is an example of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. [QUOTE]See when you start to say that all the challenges Coral beat someone else in "suited her", that's when you judged her strength unfairly. She's proved herself, stop saying that she "coincidentally" had an advantage in all. That makes no sense, just admit, [B]she's a solid competitor[/B][/QUOTE] At times, but not in general......just like Aneesa. [QUOTE] You may have the "facts" but it's still your opinion on how important or how much of an impact those "facts" have. Alton did great G1 and G2 but not so great on I3. Some people may think that his showing on I3 drastically dropped his rating or only slightly dropped it. [/QUOTE] Than Landon's lost to Brad must slightly drop him. He didn't follow the rules, and couldn't come up clutch in the end.

[QUOTE=Superboy;209727]Right.....[B]and that's why he always gets flustered during elimination rounds and even tried to cheat once(remember his Duel against CT and the puzzle?). There is an example of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. [/B] At times, but not in general......just like Aneesa. Than Landon's lost to Brad must slightly drop him. He didn't follow the rules, and couldn't come up clutch in the end.[/QUOTE] See what I'm talking about? This arrogance and self-righteousness u try to portray. Based on YOUR definition of strong minded, I believe Evan fits that. It all comes down to ur opinion and my opinion, but don't act like ur opinion is the holy grail, cuz news flash, IT'S NOT!!!!! For eg, Evan probably won about 4 challenges with Coral on FM, about 3 elimination rounds in The Duel 2, Won at least one challenge in the Duel 2 and won the finals, as well as other challenges, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, is because YOU THINK HE LOOKS flustered when he's in those elimination rounds, he's weak minded? He probably won a ratio of 4-1 (as compared to how much he lost) and ur gonna say no matter how much he did endure his pain, won challenges, WITH puzzles etc, worked under pressure in helping his team win the Ruins when no1 else could figure out the puzzle except him and Susie, u still call him weak-minded? According to MY definition of weak-minded which I stated earlier..... that you are, my friend.

[QUOTE=Superboy;209727]Right.....and that's why he always gets flustered during elimination rounds and even tried to cheat once(remember his Duel against CT and the puzzle?). There is an example of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. At times, but not in general......just like Aneesa. Than Landon's lost to Brad must slightly drop him. He didn't follow the rules, and couldn't come up clutch in the end.[/QUOTE] Honestly, unless you are there and not watching the edited version, you can't tell anything by facial expressions. Facial expressions mean absolutely nothing... You can't even tell how well someone actually performed, at times. Have you ever seen a live Gauntlet, Inferno, Duel, Ruin, Exile or Gulog? I am being honest. Have you? Or are you purely watching faces and how well they do from a edited TV point of view? Do you know, and this is a FACT, some elimination rounds take hours to finish and others take seconds? Because of editing, they can make it look like one person is struggling or flustered when in reality the flustered, struggling person was winning all along and they got a few facial expressions and capatalized on it. Do you know how much editing goes on? At all? Are you aware. You sound very foolish. I am not trying to be mean at all, but I think you are the only one in this bubble, who thinks you are g-d's answer to everything challenge related. But that's not the case.

[QUOTE=cryssy19;209732]See what I'm talking about? This arrogance and self-righteousness u try to portray. Based on YOUR definition of strong minded, I believe Evan fits that. It all comes down to ur opinion and my opinion, but don't act like ur opinion is the holy grail, cuz news flash, IT'S NOT!!!!! For eg, Evan probably won about 4 challenges with Coral on FM, about 3 elimination rounds in The Duel 2, Won at least one challenge in the Duel 2 and won the finals, as well as other challenges, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, is because YOU THINK HE LOOKS flustered when he's in those elimination rounds, he's weak minded? He probably won a ratio of 4-1 (as compared to how much he lost) and ur gonna say no matter how much he did endure his pain, won challenges, WITH puzzles etc, worked under pressure in helping his team win the Ruins when no1 else could figure out the puzzle except him and Susie, u still call him weak-minded? According to MY definition of weak-minded which I stated earlier..... that you are, my friend.[/QUOTE] Well, Evan 2-3 in challenge wins. And he did try to cheat in the ruins final. When Sarah and KA were killing the puzzle, he walked over and started studying their puzzle. Also, in the "elevator" duel with nehemiah, he kept sitting up.Technically, that was cheating, also.

[QUOTE=kdub90;209745]Well, Evan 2-3 in challenge wins. [B]And he did try to cheat in the ruins final. When Sarah and KA were killing the puzzle, he walked over and started studying their puzzle.[/B] Also, in the "elevator" duel with nehemiah, he kept sitting up.Technically, that was cheating, also.[/QUOTE] It's common knowledge now in the challenge that your puzzle can be cheated off of or looked at by the other team. The girls learned that the hard way in Battle of the Sexes 1 when the guys cheated and completely copied the girls puzzle. And as for the the Nehemiah duel, I wouldn't necessarily call it cheating, more so a heat of the moment "I may be losing" thoughts, but I don't think it was intentional.

[QUOTE=fabulous788;209758]It's common knowledge now in the challenge that your puzzle can be cheated off of or looked at by the other team. The girls learned that the hard way in Battle of the Sexes 1 when the guys cheated and completely copied the girls puzzle. And as for the the Nehemiah duel, I wouldn't necessarily call it cheating, more so a heat of the moment "I may be losing" thoughts, but I don't think it was intentional.[/QUOTE] I understand where you're coming from; but, just because it has become accepted, doesn't make it justified. You can't justify Evan's cheating.As far as I know, Evan has control over his body movements.And whether it was intentional or not, it was still cheating.Cheating is cheating. He should've been DQ'ed in that Duel w/Nehemiah.TJ had to tell him repeatedly to sit down.Evan lucked out.

[QUOTE=kdub90;209761]I understand where you're coming from; but, just because it has become accepted, doesn't make it justified. [B]You can't justify Evan's cheating.As far as I know, Evan has control over his body movements.And whether it was intentional or not, it was still cheating.Cheating is cheating.[/B] He should've been DQ'ed in that Duel w/Nehemiah.TJ had to tell him repeatedly to sit down.Evan lucked out.[/QUOTE] You make it sound like I'm speaking on Evan's behalf, when I'm not. I was just saying I don't think it was intentional, just more of a panic. Then again that's my opinion. If you see it as cheating than by all means it's cheating.

[QUOTE=fabulous788;209764]You make it sound like I'm speaking on Evan's behalf, when I'm not. I was just saying I don't think it was intentional, just more of a panic. Then again that's my opinion. If you see it as cheating than by all means it's cheating.[/QUOTE] I think Evan may have been in panick mode, because Nehemiah's face was stoic. He was fierce. Evan was probably worried about losing to Nehemiah, again; or just losing period. Either way, as close as it was, I don't think Evan won fairly. I feel like what he did was cheating. But, thats a discussion I don't care to entertain, any further. lol.