[QUOTE]That is purely physical and Irulan was scrappy. I don't think Rachel mentally lost it, I don't think they took that challenge seriously. It had nothing to do with mentally being weak. [/QUOTE]
Do you even remember the event? At one point Rachel just laid there while Irulan choked her and look helpless. And after she lost, she had this uncompetitive look on her face. As for them not taking the challenge seriously, it was Rachel who wanted to beat the Real World the most out of her castmembers.
[QUOTE]KellyAnne is a contortionist. That challenge was purely based on movement, it had nothing to do with being mentally strong or weak. Robin only lasted an hour. Rachel lasted 3 hours. A person who can contort their body to get confortable over and over would clearly win that challenge.[/QUOTE]
Okay, i'll give you that. But I still think Rachel would have lost even if she did what Kellyanne did. Not because Kellyanne is stronger physically, but mentally.
[QUOTE]And Brittni beat Rachel in one challenge... why would you consider that challenge mental?[/QUOTE]
That challenge was mental because you were having to compete while being in physical pain.
[QUOTE]The Spelling Bee challenge was pure mental. Rachel won that. When you are suspended over a lake on a plank, that puts heaps of pressure on you. Rachel stayed calm and spelt the words correctly. [/QUOTE]
I'm talking about mental strength, not smarts.
[QUOTE]I think Rachel is actually one of the most mentally strong players on the challenge.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;209375]I know people already commented on how you completely contradicted yourself with Ev, but how in the hell is Laurel, Holly, Julie or Jodi (who you wrote twice, so I am assuming you are just that in love with her) better than Coral and Veronica when it comes to mind manipulation? Who listened to Julie? No one did, ever. I don't even think Julie listened to Julie. [B]Coral is very physically fit and does well in missions, and got everyone to listen to her[/B].[/QUOTE]
She was only strong on the Battle of the Seasons. On the Gauntlet 1, she SUCKED, and on her other challenges, she was alright.
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PHYSICALLY STRONG MEN
Mark- rr1
Derrick- rr13
Darrell- rr11
Dan- rr5
Alton- rw12
Ct- rw13
Landon- rw15
Abram- rr12
[B]MENTALLY STRONG MEN[/B]
[B]Evan- fm[/B]
[B]Puck- rw3[/B]
[B]Theo- rr9[/B]
[B]Kenny- fm[/B]
[B]Wes- rw16[/B]
[B]Frank- rw12[/B]
[B]Mike- rw10[/B]
[B]Adam- rw13[/B]
[B]Adam- rr10[/B]
[B]Chadwick- rr6 [/B]
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What do you mean by mentally strong? Forming alliances and things like that is not mental strength, but smarts and cowardness. Mental strength is being aggressive, focused, controlled, having endurance, and taking yourself to another level in order to win. The best examples of mentally strong male competitors are the Miz, Abram, and Derrick. The best examples of mentally strong female competitors are Emily(RR), Ellen, Kendal, and surprisingly Susie.
[QUOTE=Superboy;209402]She was only strong on the Battle of the Seasons. [QUOTE]On the Gauntlet 1, she SUCKED, and on her other challenges, she was alright.
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Did she not beat Tina on the Gauntlet? Did she not get the life shield on the final mission on the Inferno? Did her and Evan not kick everyone's *** on FM1? And she is mentally strong.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;209385]Ah I messed up... unless I meant to put someone with a J name and accidentally put Jodi? No I don't think so. I guess it's really hard to determine who has the right amount of physical abilities and smarts to be ranked on top. I guess the mind game people should be ranked together and then the physical ones with each other.
GOOD MENTAL PLAYERS
Coral- rw10
Veronica- rr8
Susie- rr6
Rachel- rr11
Emily- rr2
[B]
GOOD PHYSICAL PLAYERS[/B]
Evelyn- fm
Ruthie- rw8
[B]Tina- rr12[/B]
Julie- rw9
Holly- rr9
Holly- rr7
Ellen- rr10
Jodi- rr13[/QUOTE]
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tina a good physical player? She can't even punch somebody in the face properly!
Tina is a lot of bark with a toothless bite. I don't know how many finals she's been to, but I know on Inferno 2 and Fresh Meat, she was being carried for a lot of the way.
[QUOTE=townie;209493]Tina is a lot of bark with a toothless bite. I don't know how many finals she's been to, but I know on Inferno 2 and Fresh Meat, she was being carried for a lot of the way.[/QUOTE]
I've never liked her, she's always annoyed the hell out of me. I don't know why so many people around here like her. Especially annoying on Inferno 2, where it seemed like she made fun of Tonya because it was the thing to do. I loved it when Dan totally owned her in one of their deliberations.
She's chump change, a bullheaded moron to put it bluntly. On Inferno 2, she, Veronica, and Rachel tried to play the "it's the women's decision, not a team decision" crap when it came to throwing Shavonda in the final Inferno... they wanted to go against her to save their own *** from maybe losing to Jamie. Then when it came time to the final, Tina is huffing and puffing and ready to go into cardiac arrest halfway through it.
I would consider Derrick a strong mental competitor because he is always positive when it comes to missions and eliminations..
but he doesn't do quite well in puzzles or when it comes to instructions.
As you can see on the Ruins in the Repo Race Challenge, when he doesn't know what to do with the bags.. also on the FM exile, he forgot the flag (though many people did).
[QUOTE=townie;209493]Tina is a lot of bark with a toothless bite. I don't know how many finals she's been to, but I know on Inferno 2 and Fresh Meat, she was being carried for a lot of the way.[/QUOTE]
Tina did very well on Battle of the Sexes 2. On the Reunion show the girls said they would rather have Rachel or Tina in the final mission than Arissa.
[QUOTE=jhl182;209558]Tina did very well on Battle of the Sexes 2. On the Reunion show the girls said they would rather have Rachel or Tina in the final mission than Arissa.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have my 63-year-old mother in the final mission than Arissa.
Not to mention, that was what, 6 years ago?
I've never liked Tina, she's ugly as hell, her voice is annoying and she talks a lot but doesnt back it up. Fine example was Inferno 2, she talked so much smack about Tonya being a weak link but Tina was just as bad as her in that final.
[QUOTE=molds13;209559]I'd rather have my 63-year-old mother in the final mission than Arissa.
Not to mention, that was what, 6 years ago?[/QUOTE]
They really wanted Tina or Rachel over Arissa? Why would anyone not want Arissa, she was an amazing athlete who dominated every mission!
molds you know you mean a 73 year old grandmother!
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;209570]They really wanted Tina or Rachel over Arissa? Why would anyone not want Arissa, she was an amazing athlete who dominated every mission!
molds you know you mean a 73 year old grandmother![/QUOTE]
They MEANT that if they had to choose ANY girl out of the whole challenge Rachel or Tina were the ones they wanted in the end to replace Arissa.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;209423]Did she not beat Tina on the Gauntlet? Did she not get the life shield on the final mission on the Inferno? Did her and Evan not kick everyone's *** on FM1? And she is mentally strong.[/QUOTE]
She beat Tina in an event that favored her. She won the life shield on the last mission before the final because it was a mission that she happened to excel at, plus you can bet Miz and Syrus were not trying to get a fast time anyways just so Coral can be safe from the Inferno. On Fresh Meat 1, she was good, but still not impressive enough to be considered top 10 female competitor all time. I can name 10 female competitors who were all better competitors than Coral.
[QUOTE=Entropy;209568]I've never liked Tina, she's ugly as hell, her voice is annoying and [B]she talks a lot but doesnt back it up[/B]. Fine example was Inferno 2, she talked so much smack about Tonya being a weak link but Tina was just as bad as her in that final.[/QUOTE]
I'd call her punching Beth, in the face, on The Duel "backing it up". HAHA!
[QUOTE=Superboy;209591]She beat Tina in an event that favored her. She won the life shield on the last mission before the final because it was a mission that she happened to excel at, plus you can bet Miz and Syrus were not trying to get a fast time anyways just so Coral can be safe from the Inferno. On Fresh Meat 1, she was good, but still not impressive enough to be considered top 10 female competitor all time. I can name 10 female competitors who were all better competitors than Coral.[/QUOTE]
AND here we go again, with the Top competitors' list...more arguments are to come...
[QUOTE=kdub90;209593]I'd call her punching Beth, in the face, on The Duel "backing it up". HAHA!
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I wouldn't. She whiffed on the punch and somehow made Beth look like the rational one in an argument. So if you're scoring at home, that's both Beth AND Tonya, two of the biggest nutcases ever, that at one time or another Tina has made look like the less insane person in an argument. Tina does things solely for the purpose of airtime, since she must have watched The Gauntlet when it aired and realized that she might as well have been a ghost on that season. She gets into pointless arguments just so she can yell and we can hear her annoying voice. Eff her.
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AND here we go again, with the Top competitors' list...more arguments are to come...[/QUOTE]
The thing is I actually know what i'm talking about because i've seen all the challenges and analzyed them. I can make a more accurate top ten list, more so than anyone here i'm sure.....especially from what i've seen. And there wouldn't be a debate if people actually knew what they were talking about.
[QUOTE=Superboy;209591]She beat Tina in an event that favored her. She won the life shield on the last mission before the final because it was a mission that she happened to excel at, plus you can bet Miz and Syrus were not trying to get a fast time anyways just so Coral can be safe from the Inferno. On Fresh Meat 1, she was good, but still not impressive enough to be considered top 10 female competitor all time. I can name 10 female competitors who were all better competitors than Coral.[/QUOTE]
Coral kicked BUTT in The Gauntlet 1 in the 2nd half after she won her gauntlet.
1st half, she sucked but after she did great, even beating the guys. Do you want me to go mission to mission?
On the Inferno 1, half the time she didn't do well, half the time she did great.
BOTS2, Coral was the best female. There's a reason why she made it to the end. Her and Rachel were the best females in that challenge. a
[QUOTE=Superboy;209604]The thing is I actually know what i'm talking about because i've seen all the challenges and analzyed them. I can make a more accurate top ten list, more so than anyone here i'm sure.....especially from what i've seen. And there wouldn't be a debate if people actually knew what they were talking about.[/QUOTE]
Many of us here have been watching the Challenges for several years now and I'm sure a lot of us have re-watched the old ones too. We know who's good and who isn't. Give it a rest with the lists already. I'm sick of reading everyone's lists and they are all varying degrees of ****ty. Stop thinking yours is going to be the best. And don't sit here and say that you've analyzed the Challenges, as if that means anything. Who are you, Cris Collinsworth?
[QUOTE=AJHill;209597]I wouldn't. She whiffed on the punch and somehow made Beth look like the rational one in an argument. So if you're scoring at home, that's both Beth AND Tonya, two of the biggest nutcases ever, that at one time or another Tina has made look like the less insane person in an argument. Tina does things solely for the purpose of airtime, since she must have watched The Gauntlet when it aired and realized that she might as well have been a ghost on that season. She gets into pointless arguments just so she can yell and we can hear her annoying voice. Eff her.[/QUOTE]
Tina was loud as hell on The Gauntlet 1 (according to the castmembers blogs). They just didn't show it because they were concerned more about Katie, Sarah, and Coral's storyline. Tina got eliminated in the 5th episode and that episode was more about Mike voting Coral in so they couldnt put airtime for Tina.
Did you watch "south pacific"? Cause Tina had a lot of airtime there when she replaced Cara. Again, she was very loud and spoke her mind.
[QUOTE=jhl182;209607]Coral kicked BUTT in The Gauntlet 1 in the 2nd half after she won her gauntlet.
1st half, she sucked but after she did great, even beating the guys. Do you want me to go mission to mission?
On the Inferno 1, half the time she didn't do well, half the time she did great.
BOTS2, Coral was the best female. There's a reason why she made it to the end. Her and Rachel were the best females in that challenge.[/QUOTE]
Coral can go from bad to good, but overall, she is average. Still a bottom competitor as she is not consistantly good in mission nor a good athlete.
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Many of us here have been watching the Challenges for several years now and I'm sure a lot of us have re-watched the old ones too. We know who's good and who isn't. Give it a rest with the lists already. I'm sick of reading everyone's lists and they are all varying degrees of ****ty. Stop thinking yours is going to be the best. And don't sit here and say that you've analyzed the Challenges, as if that means anything. Who are you, Cris Collinsworth?
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Believe me, most of the people on here don't know what they're talking about.....sometimes someone gets something right, but in general, they are WAY off. I can understand how annoying it can get..... but when you present facts, there is no debating it. And no i'm not Chris Collinsworth, but I am a challenge competitors expert.
When can we start a speculation thread for the challenge after Cut Throat. We only have 3 cast members that can be considered maybes but I feel like we've known the cast for the last couple of challenges around the time the one before starts airing... well I guess we have a few weeks.
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Believe me, most of the people on here don't know what they're talking about.....sometimes someone gets something right, but in general, they are WAY off. I can understand how annoying it can get..... but when you present facts, there is no debating it. And no i'm not Chris Collinsworth, but I am a challenge competitors expert.[/QUOTE]
The problem is, you have a hard time presenting facts. Instead of giving solid empirical evidence, you give biased arguments and say stuff like "this guy can run faster than this guy because on one Challenge that the other guy wasn't even on I saw one guy run ahead of people". You think you know more than everyone even though your arguments very rarely make any sense. Your inflated opinion of yourself isn't helping your cause. A challenge competitors expert? Please.
[QUOTE=Superboy;209610]And no i'm not Chris Collinsworth, but I am a challenge competitors expert.[/QUOTE]
Really? Well I'm Santa. What do you want for Christmas?
[QUOTE=Superboy;209610]Coral can go from bad to good, but overall, she is average. Still a bottom competitor as she is not consistantly good in mission nor a good athlete.
Believe me, most of the people on here don't know what they're talking about.....sometimes someone gets something right, but in general, they are WAY off. I can understand how annoying it can get..... but when you present facts, there is no debating it. And no i'm not Chris Collinsworth, but[B] I am a challenge competitors expert.[/B][/QUOTE]
Hahahhahahahaha. Did anyone else burst out laughing?
Maybe he's like in the CIA for MTV's Challenges.
I may disagree with AJhill on some things, but atleast he is rational and understands the game. You, Superboy, are off your rocker. Who says they are a challenge competitors expert? I bet almost everyone here has watched each season over and over again. Everyone on here knows who's good and who isn't, and who's had their good days and who's had their bad days. Don't think you are anything special. Unless you are like Barbara Walters and interviewed each and every challenge competitor personally, you are just like everyone else. So simmer down.
BMP is already making availability calls for Fresh Meat III.
It will be filming in early November in the South Pacific.
I know because a friend of mine got a call. He was a Real World finalist. He turned it down as he's in school and the semester has already started. From the short conversation he had with the casting director, it was apparent that the cast would be made up of new meat, plus season 1 and season 2 new meat. So an all Fresh Meat challenge, with the new meat teaming up with cast members from the first two seasons.
Should be pretty sweet.
[QUOTE=Francid;209684]BMP is already making availability calls for Fresh Meat III.
It will be filming in early November in the South Pacific.
I know because a friend of mine got a call. He was a Real World finalist. He turned it down as he's in school and the semester has already started. From the short conversation he had with the casting director, it was apparent that the cast would be made up of new meat, plus season 1 and season 2 new meat. So an all Fresh Meat challenge, with the new meat teaming up with cast members from the first two seasons.
Should be pretty sweet.[/QUOTE]
I doubt this.
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