[QUOTE=cryssy19;208201]so wait, both Emily beats Melinda AND Tyler beats Johnny?!?!! sigh, I love a good rookie-beats-vet elimination. :)[/QUOTE]
Technically, Tyler's not a rookie.
[QUOTE=Entropy;208177]As has been said the point is not to beat CT, is to see who can last longer.[/QUOTE]
Maybe the point overall in those last two elimination rounds is to see who does the overall best between Tori/Teresa and Johnny/Tyler. Like, the ideal goal is for them to beat CT/Tina. But if for example, both Johnny and Tyler lose to CT, whoever loses fastest goes home and whoever lasts longest makes it to the finals. And if both Johnny and Tyler beat CT (which we all pretty unanimously agree won't happen in a million years), it's a matter of who beat him the fastest that sticks around. And same deal with Tori/Teresa/Tina (woah, Tripple T's in that Gulag haha)
I've heard the red team wins the final challenge. It came from a person who is close to someone connected to the challenge. They have been right for recent past challenges, but I guess it's possible I was, or they were, lied to haha. Just thought I'd share what I heard!
[strike]ah ok. i've known Tyler was around for a long time, i just never remembered him being on any challenges, but then again, i don't care if he's a rookie, a vet or an accountant, as long as he takes out Johnny, i'm happy.[/strike]
Ah ok. I've known Tyler was around for a long time. I just never remembered him being on any challenges, but then again, I don't care if he's a rookie, a vet or an accountant, as long as he takes out Johnny, I'm happy.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208209]Molds, if Paula is there for the CT-Tyler thing, how does she not make the final?[/QUOTE]
"mid season" twist. Hint: he came in while Paula was still there. That's my guess.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;208220]"mid season" twist. Hint: he came in while Paula was still there. That's my guess.[/QUOTE]
Molds said earlier that the "mid season" thing is wrong and that CT and Tina come in at the end. There's a post somewhere about MTV always having errors in the bios and descriptions.
And if you look back (also on this thread) there's a picture of Tyler and CT strapped to each other, and in the background you can see the red team. There's Tori (in uniform, after beating Theresa/Tina), Brad, Dunbar, and Paula.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208221]Molds said earlier that the "mid season" thing is wrong and that CT and Tina come in at the end. There's a post somewhere about MTV always having errors in the bios and descriptions.
And if you look back (also on this thread) there's a picture of Tyler and CT strapped to each other, and in the background you can see the red team. There's Tori (in uniform, after beating Theresa/Tina), Brad, Dunbar, and Paula.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of all of that, but those pictures don't indicate anything, other than CT going against them. He could have went against other people, they just haven't showed it in the trailers/promos. Molds never specified that they were they ONLY for those eliminations. If she did, I must have missed it. Bare with me, for I am doing all this via iPhone.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;208223]I'm aware of all of that, but those pictures don't indicate anything, other than CT going against them. He could have went against other people, they just haven't showed it in the trailers/promos. Molds never specified that they were they ONLY for those eliminations. If she did, I must have missed it. Bare with me, for I am doing all this via iPhone.[/QUOTE]
Haha it's fine, I'm sorry if Im coming off as rude or pushy, just trying to figure it out. But Molds has said that Tina and CT come in at the very end of the challenge, and in the picture taken from the trailer with the red team in the background, only Tori, Brad, Dunbar, and Paula are shown, so it has to be the end of the challenge...where else would the rest of the team be? Lol
And because Paula was initially said to be in the final challenge, I'm thinking maybe a mistake was made somewhere along the lines.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208225]Haha it's fine, I'm sorry if Im coming off as rude or pushy, just trying to figure it out. But Molds has said that Tina and CT come in at the very end of the challenge, and in the picture taken from the trailer with the red team in the background, only Tori, Brad, Dunbar, and Paula are shown, so it has to be the end of the challenge...where else would the rest of the team be? Lol
And because Paula was initially said to be in the final challenge, I'm thinking maybe a mistake was made somewhere along the lines.[/QUOTE]
And that's what I missed. I didn't notice Paula in that picture. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe it's not CT we see going against Tyler. After all, you can't really point out CT with only the persons neck and helmet. Could be someone, not wearing their team uniform. Like Ev did on the ruins.
[QUOTE=Shizzle;208215]I've heard the red team wins the final challenge. It came from a person who is close to someone connected to the challenge. They have been right for recent past challenges, but I guess it's possible I was, or they were, lied to haha. Just thought I'd share what I heard![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info.
So if I can move the conversation to the captains riddle, I have a list of potential captains.
[COLOR="Red"]RED[/COLOR]: Camila Nakagawa [[B]confirmed[/B]]
[COLOR="Blue"]BLUE[/COLOR]: Ty Ruff [[B]speculation[/B]]
[COLOR="Gray"]GRAY[/COLOR]: Sarah Rice [[B]speculation[/B]]
Molds said that Ty's freak outs occurred before the first elimination seeing as how Emilee was there. Someone (maybe Molds still) then said "it makes you wonder how Ty made it past the first elimination." I'm thinking that maybe he was captain, and the team didn't know they were able to throw their captain in the Gulag. Or maybe they didn't know what the repercussions of throwing a captain in would be.
If it was between Abe, Sarah, and Shauvon for the Gray captain, I think that Sarah would end up as captain. I don't think Shauvon would do well in any challenge, but I think that Abe would be a target in the captains challenge.
IF the first challenge is a free-for-all challenge, I'd expect the men to gang up on who they perceived as the strongest and try to get rid of them (again, [B]I have no idea what the opening challenge is[/B], but this was what popped into my head). Maybe this allowed Camila, Ty, and Sarah to capitalize on the event and win.
Two more things that make me think Sarah might be a captain -- 1) "I'm tired of losing with you on my team" at first, I was thinking "okay, it's just something she's saying because she's upset," but now I'm thinking she could have been a captain. 2) a good amount of the people on the gray team are from Fresh Meat II (yes I know Jenn and Paula were alumni on FM II, but neither are captains) and I wouldn't be surprised if Sarah picked them to be on her team.
Say what you want - shoot me down, agree with me - I don't care, as long as you add something!
[QUOTE=r3iKo;208223]I'm aware of all of that, but those pictures don't indicate anything, other than CT going against them. He could have went against other people, they just haven't showed it in the trailers/promos. [B]Molds never specified that they were they ONLY for those eliminations.[/B] If she did, I must have missed it. Bare with me, for I am doing all this via iPhone.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I did.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208225]Haha it's fine, I'm sorry if Im coming off as rude or pushy, just trying to figure it out. But Molds has said that Tina and CT come in at the very end of the challenge, and in the picture taken from the trailer with the red team in the background, only Tori, Brad, Dunbar, and Paula are shown, so it has to be the end of the challenge...where else would the rest of the team be? Lol
[B]And because Paula was initially said to be in the final challenge, I'm thinking maybe a mistake was made somewhere along the lines.[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm looking into that. I might have been right the first time around.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;208227]And that's what I missed. I didn't notice Paula in that picture. Thanks for pointing that out. [B]Maybe it's not CT we see going against Tyler.[/B] After all, you can't really point out CT with only the persons neck and helmet. Could be someone, not wearing their team uniform. Like Ev did on the ruins.[/QUOTE]
It's CT. He goes against Johnny and Tyler.
[QUOTE=molds13;208249]Yes, I did.
[B]Yeah, I'm looking into that. I might have been right the first time around.[/B]
It's CT. He goes against Johnny and Tyler.[/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking, I'm not really sure if you ever enlightened us on what caused the switch in the first place (unless I missed it, very likely).
But if you were in fact correct about Paula making the final, would that mean that it's definitely Laurel who did not make it? Or could it have been Jenn, Cara Maria, Sarah, or Emily?
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208250]That's what I was thinking, I'm not really sure if you ever enlightened us on what caused the switch in the first place (unless I missed it, very likely).
But if you were in fact correct about Paula making the final, would that mean that it's definitely Laurel who did not make it? Or could it have been Jenn, Cara Maria, Sarah, or Emily?[/QUOTE]
If it isn't Paula, I have it narrowed down to Laurel or Cara Maria.
Anybody else kind of think that the grounds for that elimination are a little unfair? CT could literally handpick who he'd want to win by going harder against one guy and taking it easier against another. Ahhh, who cares, Johnny bows his head to the executioner's sword, that's all that matters. Can't wait to see him humbled.
Yeah, a cash prize or a really nice prize in general would definitely be motivation for him to try his hardest haha. Whenever there's a prize he wants, he'll go gangbusters to get it, hence why he was so dominant on Inferno 2. Only time there was a prize that he wanted to win really bad but didn't was that motorcycle on the Duel, he was ****** about losing that.
[QUOTE=townie;208252]Ahhh, who cares, Johnny bows his head to the executioner's sword, that's all that matters. Can't wait to see him humbled.[/QUOTE]
I can't wait either. I'm going to mark it on my calander. :D
[QUOTE=CzarEric;208234]So if I can move the conversation to the captains riddle, I have a list of potential captains.
[COLOR="Red"]RED[/COLOR]: Camila Nakagawa [[B]confirmed[/B]]
[COLOR="Blue"]BLUE[/COLOR]: Ty Ruff [[B]speculation[/B]]
[COLOR="Gray"]GRAY[/COLOR]: Sarah Rice [[B]speculation[/B]]
Molds said that Ty's freak outs occurred before the first elimination seeing as how Emilee was there. Someone (maybe Molds still) then said "it makes you wonder how Ty made it past the first elimination." I'm thinking that maybe he was captain, and the team didn't know they were able to throw their captain in the Gulag. Or maybe they didn't know what the repercussions of throwing a captain in would be.[/quote]
All of the captains are women.
[quote]If it was between Abe, Sarah, and Shauvon for the Gray captain, I think that Sarah would end up as captain. I don't think Shauvon would do well in any challenge, but I think that Abe would be a target in the captains challenge.
IF the first challenge is a free-for-all challenge, I'd expect the men to gang up on who they perceived as the strongest and try to get rid of them (again, [B]I have no idea what the opening challenge is[/B], but this was what popped into my head). Maybe this allowed Camila, Ty, and Sarah to capitalize on the event and win. [/quote]
There are no "targets" in the captains challenge: it is every person for themselves.
The opening team challenge is the one where you see contestants running into a gas chamber to do a puzzle. I have not seen them show the captains challenge in any of the trailers yet.
[QUOTE=molds13;208257]All of the captains are women.
There are no "targets" in the captains challenge: it is every person for themselves.
The opening team challenge is the one where you see contestants running into a gas chamber to do a puzzle. I have not seen them show the captains challenge in any of the trailers yet.[/QUOTE]
I wish I knew how you know all the things you do.
[QUOTE=molds13;208257]All of the captains are women.
.[/QUOTE]
Camila, Emily, and Sarah
If it was physical, I can see Sarah and Emily winning agains the other girls on their teams.
And on the note of which girl actually goes home, what's your lastest standpoint Molds? Obviously I'm not you and dont have your connections, but personally I think you were correc the first time around and Paula is in the finals. Laurel or Cara Maria ya say? If it was based on who would be easier to take out, I'd say Cara Maria stays, but I think with her being so close with Abram, I wonder how she would've gotten voted in...
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208290][B]Camila, Emily, and Sarah[/B]
If it was physical, I can see Sarah and Emily winning agains the other girls on their teams.
And on the note of which girl actually goes home, what's your lastest standpoint Molds? Obviously I'm not you and dont have your connections, but personally I think you were correc the first time around and Paula is in the finals. Laurel or Cara Maria ya say? If it was based on who would be easier to take out, I'd say Cara Maria stays, but I think with her being so close with Abram, I wonder how she would've gotten voted in...[/QUOTE]
Sorry, not the correct three. As I said earlier...they didn't [I]win[/I] anything to be captains.
I'm taking a break from the spoiler aspect for now and trying to figure everything out. Real life is calling and is not happy I've been neglecting it.
Like I said in the first post of the spoiler thread, I have never guaranteed that the list is 100% accurate, just that it is an indication of when people became active. Thanks to the trailers, I'm almost positive that Melinda and Brandon go home at the same elimination.
I've considered switching Ty and Eric, but unfortunately the trailers haven't showed much of either of them beyond the first four missions, and I have seen both of them in four.
So, either Camila went home with Chet and the mystery person went home with Dan, or vice versa. I can't take into account if people stayed as tourists after their time on the Challenge was over.
But...I am 99% sure that Jenn, Emily, Tori and Sarah are all in the finals.
[QUOTE=molds13;208295]Sorry, not the correct three. As I said earlier...they didn't [I]win[/I] anything to be captains.
I'm taking a break from the spoiler aspect for now and trying to figure everything out. Real life is calling and is not happy I've been neglecting it.
Like I said in the first post of the spoiler thread, I have never guaranteed that the list is 100% accurate, just that it is an indication of when people became active. Thanks to the trailers, I'm almost positive that Melinda and Brandon go home at the same elimination.
I've considered switching Ty and Eric, but unfortunately the trailers haven't showed much of either of them beyond the first four missions, and I have seen both of them in four.
So, either Camila went home with Chet and the mystery person went home with Dan, or vice versa. I can't take into account if people stayed as tourists after their time on the Challenge was over.
But...I am 99% sure that Jenn, Emily, Tori and Sarah are all in the finals.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, alright. The whole captain thing really isn't very important, at least I don't think so. So I dont think I'll keep wasting both our time on guessing and speculating.
Good luck with trying to figure out some more info though. You've done a great job with even getting the eliminated people down and in a relatively close order, so it's really understandable that there could be a flaw here and there.
If I may ask, what are you gonna be spending time trying to figure out? I know that there's figuring out the deal with Paula/Laurel/Cara Maria and which goes home, but is there other things you're analyzing?
[QUOTE=Morris1721;208300]Hmm, alright. The whole captain thing really isn't very important, at least I don't think so. So I dont think I'll keep wasting both our time on guessing and speculating.
Good luck with trying to figure out some more info though. You've done a great job with even getting the eliminated people down and in a relatively close order, so it's really understandable that there could be a flaw here and there.
If I may ask, what are you gonna be spending time trying to figure out? I know that there's figuring out the deal with Paula/Laurel/Cara Maria and which goes home, but is there other things you're analyzing?[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to be spending any time on any of this. I have grad school to concentrate on...
[QUOTE=molds13;208302]I'm not going to be spending any time on any of this. I have grad school to concentrate on...[/QUOTE]
Ahh, good for you! Concentration is key.
I misread your post as you were done with spoilers and you were gonna now concentrate on figuring stuff out., my apologies:pardon:
[QUOTE=molds13;208302]I'm not going to be spending any time on any of this. I have grad school to concentrate on...[/QUOTE]
Molds, I know you don't really have time for anymore questions, so this is directed to anybody. But, do you think the horse race challenge where everyone comes running out of the horse gates is the captain's challenge? And the two guys in grey shirts are the defenders? Oh, ****! I just said "gray shirts"! Guess not! IDK!
[QUOTE=kdub90;208307]Molds, I know you don't really have time for anymore questions, so this is directed to anybody. But, do you think the horse race challenge where everyone comes running out of the horse gates is the captain's challenge? And the two guys in grey shirts are the defenders? Oh, ****! I just said "gray shirts"! Guess not! IDK![/QUOTE]
I love how you answered your own question yet somehow felt the need to post this anyway...
[QUOTE=kdub90;208307]Molds, I know you don't really have time for anymore questions, so this is directed to anybody. But, do you think the horse race challenge where everyone comes running out of the horse gates is the captain's challenge? And the two guys in grey shirts are the defenders? [B]Oh, ****! I just said "gray shirts[/B]"! Guess not! IDK![/QUOTE]
Actually, you said "grey shirts." :D
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