Paula is actually a pretty good competitor. She's not as strong as Evelyn or Jodi, but she usually does pretty well in missions and such. Kdub, you say RealityToast's list is biased, but obviously your bias for Sarah is affecting YOUR judgement about the competitors.
Wow, I can't even type up a proper rebuttal. I can't believe you would blame RealityToast and say his list is impartial and unfair...have you READ your posts??
[QUOTE=kdub90;206719]
And Tina!haha! She is entertaining to watch, but please. Tina has only won 1 elimination round. I don't know how many she has lost. She has made it to 1 challenge finale just like Sarah. Isn't she 0 for 5 in chalenge wins?
Laurel isn't easily better. She's a great competitor, yet her and Sarah have yet to face-off. You can just say she's better becuz than her without them facing.
Don't ask for critique on your list if you're gonna be biased and include social game, if you want to make a list of real athletes and competitor. That is all...[/QUOTE]
Tina has actually made it to the finals in two challenges, Inferno II and Fresh Meat. She also made it very close to the finals in Battle of the Sexes II, coming in fourth place. The only elimination round she lost was against Coral in the Gauntlet and it was an endurance type elimination. I would say that Tina should be above Sarah the list.
I think people can have their opinions on who can beat who even if they haven't faced each other in elimination rounds. I would put money on Laurel being able to beat Sarah any day, but that's just what I think.
And you're bias for Sarah is so strong, I don't see how you can complain.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;206734]Paula is actually a pretty good competitor. She's not as strong as Evelyn or Jodi, but she usually does pretty well in missions and such. Kdub, you say RealityToast's list is biased, but obviously your bias for Sarah is affecting YOUR judgement about the competitors.
Wow, I can't even type up a proper rebuttal. I can't believe you would blame RealityToast and say his list is impartial and unfair...have you READ your posts??[/QUOTE]
I agree hands down with the whole post. Paula is quite the competitor and almost proved herself against Evelyn in that exile last season.
[QUOTE=kdub90;206719]
Laurel isn't easily better. She's a great competitor, yet her and Sarah have yet to face-off. You can just say she's better becuz than her without them facing.
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So let me get this straight. You are saying that it is impossible to say Laurel is a better competitor than Sarah because they haven't faced each other in an elimination round? CT and Karamo have never faced each other in an elimination round. So according to you, we are not able to say CT is a better competitor than Karamo?
[QUOTE=MF41590;206744]So let me get this straight. You are saying that it is impossible to say Laurel is a better competitor than Sarah because they haven't faced each other in an elimination round? CT and Karamo have never faced each other in an elimination round. So according to you, we are not able to say CT is a better competitor than Karamo?[/QUOTE]
Well any argument is gonna look asinine when stretched to an extreme like that. The idea is that Sarah and Laurel are at least somewhat evenly matched, so it's hard to put one over the other without seeing them face off in a solo elimination round. That is a valid enough reason to not put one over the other. Not that I necessarily agree with that as I think Laurel is noticeably better than Sarah without needing an elimination round as proof, but the difference between isn't as clear as Laurel vs Casey/Brooke/Shavon etc.
Who do you think is the [B]funniest[/B] competitor on the Challenges?
Male
1) Theo V - Theo making fun of Wes for most of Fresh Meat amused me to no end.
2) Timmy - "this is the only time I will get to nail Trishelle." Haha
3) Evan - there are a lot of times when I think Evan needs to ****, but I'll admit he has his funny moments. His bonding time with New Zealand sheep on the Duel 2 was great.
4) Kenny - like Evan, Kenny needs to ****. But he has his moments.
5) Darrell - has said something to make me chuckle on every challenge he's been on
6) Noor - was only on one challenge, but he made me laugh, especially with his comment about Jenn's stumpy dinosaur arms.
Unintentionally funny males:
1) Derrick - because he got knocked down with a golf cart and made friends with a frog
2) Wes - because he's ridiculous.
Female:
1) Coral - has waaaay too many one-liners to count.
2) Kimberly - has the best facial expressions when she is disgusted by and/or does not approve of something.
3) Tina - needs to ****, but was at her funniest during Fresh Meat. "My partner needs a nose job, and I need liposuction."
4) Katie - funny especially when she's angry
5) Paula - has her moments.
Unintentionally funny females:
1) Tonya - Tonya's crazy, cooch-flashing, clothes-in-pool-throwing *** makes for good TV
2) Julie - she is funny in a psychotic, crazy lady sort of way
Hahha
Coral and Katie are hysterical. Coral is the type of person who you want by your side so she doesn't destroy you (i.e Trishelle, Julie). Katie is just honest, but just has a funny personality.
Tonya is definitely unintentionally funny, but funny non-the-less.
Theo and Timmy are just naturally funny.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;206734]Paula is actually a pretty good competitor. She's not as strong as Evelyn or Jodi, but she usually does pretty well in missions and such. Kdub, you say RealityToast's list is biased, but obviously your bias for Sarah is affecting YOUR judgement about the competitors.
Wow, I can't even type up a proper rebuttal. I can't believe you would blame RealityToast and say his list is impartial and unfair...have you READ your posts??[/QUOTE]
Thanks [B]Youssarian[/B],
I agree with everything you say.
I know Kdub90 thinks Sarah Rice is a great competitor.. but she hasn't proved anything yet. So she made the finals.. that's about it and she won 2 elimination rounds. She appeared on a team challenge which is easier for rookie debuts.
Honestly, competitors who all appeared on any challenge besides team seasons I consider better like Brittini,Diem,Paula and them.
[QUOTE=RealityToast;206876]Thanks [B]Youssarian[/B],
I agree with everything you say.
I know Kdub90 thinks Sarah Rice is a great competitor.. but she hasn't proved anything yet. So she made the finals.. that's about it and she won 2 elimination rounds. She appeared on a team challenge which is easier for rookie debuts.
Honestly, competitors who all appeared on any challenge besides team seasons I consider better like Brittini,Diem,Paula and them.[/QUOTE]
You are always going to find people who are impartial to certain players. Kdub loves Sarah. It's not a bad thing. She did do decent on missions, but she definitely isn't amazing or atleast hasen't proven herself to be on the caliber of certain people yet. She beat Katie and Johanna... that's not such a big accomlishment! On the flip side, she did show she isn't intimidated and kept her calm which is applaud worthy.
These who is better than who exchanges are getting old everyone. This is why people need to stop making lists, because it pretty much encourages senseless bickering. Some of the insinuations of why they think someone is better than someone else that have been made around here over the last few days are flat out ridiculous.
Changing gears a bit, what are everyone's favorite RW/RR Challenge intros? Mine go like this:
1. The Inferno: loved the Yellowcard song they used, and everyone seemed to be having so much fun in the intro
2. The Island: possibly the only good thing about this season. The Shinedown song used in the opening and I like how the cast is just rattled off to the beat of the song.
3. The Duel 2: so completely ridiculous that it became entertaining to watch
[QUOTE=AJHill;206934]These who is better than who exchanges are getting old everyone. This is why people need to stop making lists, because it pretty much encourages senseless bickering. Some of the insinuations of why they think someone is better than someone else that have been made around here over the last few days are flat out ridiculous.
Changing gears a bit, what are everyone's favorite RW/RR Challenge intros? Mine go like this:
1. The Inferno: loved the Yellowcard song they used, and everyone seemed to be having so much fun in the intro
2. The Island: possibly the only good thing about this season. The Shinedown song used in the opening and I like how the cast is just rattled off to the beat of the song.
3. The Duel 2: so completely ridiculous that it became entertaining to watch[/QUOTE]
Battle of the Sexes 1 had the best intro ever. I love the beach setting, everybodys having fun and being silly. Everbodys in their bathing suits lol. Amazing cast.
Something that I never understood in Battle of the Seasons..
Real World had made a deal that the winning teams would each kickback some money to the eliminated teams, but then during the final days they made the deal with Road Rules that they would split the 300,000 between everyone (except Holly), so whatever happened to the RW deal?
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;206913]You are always going to find people who are impartial to certain players. Kdub loves Sarah. It's not a bad thing. She did do decent on missions, but she definitely isn't amazing or atleast hasen't proven herself to be on the caliber of certain people yet. She beat Katie and Johanna... that's not such a big accomlishment! On the flip side, she did show she isn't intimidated and kept her calm which is applaud worthy.[/QUOTE]
I know some people think I'm biased. But, I believe that I am fair. I just feel like people don't give Sarah enough credit. Some of it due to the way she was portrayed on her RW:Season. I look at how she performed on the challenges. On the ruins, I personally thought she was great! I thought she was the best female on her team. If you watch the last 2 challenges of the season, she showcases her ablilites. Derrick shook and shook! But, he couldn't make her fall.I wonder if Laurel would have done as well as Sarah on the flower -picking wall challenge(the last challenege before the final)?I can't say for sure. However, Laurel is a good competitor. And about Paula...I give up. If you think Paula is a good competitor; thats your opinion. I personally see her as weak. That's my opinion.I don't want to start another debacle, so I will refrain. On Sarah's first final, the vets were choking, gagging and coughing; just short of puking. Sarah was getting it done like a champ!lol. Whether I like her or not, I think she's a great competitor. And if you ever rewatch The Ruins, let me know if your opinion changes. She was AMAZING in the challenges! I think so!
[QUOTE=Entropy;206944]Something that I never understood in Battle of the Seasons..
Real World had made a deal that the winning teams would each kickback some money to the eliminated teams, but then during the final days they made the deal with Road Rules that they would split the 300,000 between everyone (except Holly), so whatever happened to the RW deal?[/QUOTE]
I remember that deal as well, but as far as I know they only stuck with the deals with Road Rules because they said that at the reunion.
[QUOTE=kdub90;206948]I know some people think I'm biased. But, I believe that I am fair. I just feel like people don't give Sarah enough credit. Some of it due to the way she was portrayed on her RW:Season. I look at how she performed on the challenges. On the ruins, I personally thought she was great! I thought she was the best female on her team. If you watch the last 2 challenges of the season, she showcases her ablilites. Derrick shook and shook! But, he couldn't make her fall.I wonder if Laurel would have done as well as Sarah on the flower -picking wall challenge(the last challenege before the final)?I can't say for sure. However, Laurel is a good competitor. And about Paula...I give up. If you think Paula is a good competitor; thats your opinion. I personally see her as weak. That's my opinion.I don't want to start another debacle, so I will refrain. On Sarah's first final, the vets were choking, gagging and coughing; just short of puking. Sarah was getting it done like a champ!lol. Whether I like her or not, I think she's a great competitor. And if you ever rewatch The Ruins, let me know if your opinion changes. She was AMAZING in the challenges! I think so![/QUOTE]
I just want to let you know that I've never disliked Sarah and I do give her credit for performing well on The Ruins, because she did. I actually really loved her on Brooklyn and it carried over onto the Ruins. She was definitely one of the best on her team next to Kellyanne. I'm sure we were just saying you were biased to Sarah mainly because you talk about her all the time. I don't think anyone meant for it to be rude at all.
[QUOTE=AJHill;206934]
Changing gears a bit, what are everyone's favorite RW/RR Challenge intros? Mine go like this:
1. The Inferno: loved the Yellowcard song they used, and everyone seemed to be having so much fun in the intro
2. The Island: possibly the only good thing about this season. The Shinedown song used in the opening and I like how the cast is just rattled off to the beat of the song.
3. The Duel 2: so completely ridiculous that it became entertaining to watch[/QUOTE]
I really liked the majority of the intros to be honest. If I had to pick my favorite it would be the Battle of the Sexes intro, the one with the Midtown song on the beach. It was awesome. I also really liked the Inferno one for the same reasons as you did.
Who do you think had the funniest interviews/commentary?
BOTseasons - Piggy/Theo
BOTsexes - Melissa
Gauntlet - Coral/Theo
Inferno - Coral
BOTsexes II - Coral/Tina
Inferno 2 - Tina
[QUOTE=fabulous788;206950]
I just want to let you know that I've never disliked Sarah and I do give her credit for performing well on The Ruins, because she did. I actually really loved her on Brooklyn and it carried over onto the Ruins. She was definitely one of the best on her team next to Kellyanne. I'm sure we were just saying you were biased to Sarah mainly because you talk about her all the time. I don't think anyone meant for it to be rude at all.
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That's understandable. Thankyou Fabulous788!!!
Coral is hands down the funniest person to ever appear on RW/RR in my opinion.
As far as my favorite intro, I would have to say Gauntlet I, or Inferno I, probably just because those are my two favorite seasons. Plus, Inferno I introduced me to Yellowcard, and I've been a huge fan of them ever since.
I liked BOTS I intro the best. The other's that I liked were all The Gauntlet intro's, Inferno II, The Duel II and The Ruins.
I did enjoy the Inferno song, but didn't like the intro.
The Island intro, like the season, was boring.
Since Ryan Conklin has apparently decided this week to cut off all his fans from his life now that he has their book money in his pocket, I think the odds of him appearing on a future challenge just went up astronomically.
I have a question, can anyone gave me the names of the challenges which these appeared on???
1)There was a challenge where everyone was aginst Katie, and sent her into an elimination round and she had to hold her breath in water (disgusting water) which (i believe) she won.
2)The was a a challenge where they had to ride a tiny bicycle through an obstacle course, then on a narrow ledge over water. (hilarious one)
3) The one with Coral and Julie fighting, and an elimination round where they had to run on a treadmill for a long time
4) (this one is a little fuzzy) but i believe the Miz against someone where they had to knock each other off a ledge (with the big bar thingies). (not sure if it was elimination or just a challenge)
Thanks. I can't remmeber cuz i started watching it when i was real young. (I'm 20 now) and I think I watched all (maybe missed one or two).
[QUOTE=cryssy19;207119]I have a question, can anyone gave me the names of the challenges which these appeared on???
1)There was a challenge where everyone was aginst Katie, and sent her into an elimination round and she had to hold her breath in water (disgusting water) which (i believe) she won.
2)The was a a challenge where they had to ride a tiny bicycle through an obstacle course, then on a narrow ledge over water. (hilarious one)
3) The one with Coral and Julie fighting, and an elimination round where they had to run on a treadmill for a long time
4) (this one is a little fuzzy) but i believe the Miz against someone where they had to knock each other off a ledge (with the big bar thingies). (not sure if it was elimination or just a challenge)
Thanks. I can't remmeber cuz i started watching it when i was real young. (I'm 20 now) and I think I watched all (maybe missed one or two).[/QUOTE]
1) Inferno 1
2) Inferno 2
3) Inferno 1
4) Gauntlet 1
Those were all great challenges.
Top 25 lists for both [U][COLOR=blue]males[/COLOR][/U] and [COLOR=red][U]females [/U][/COLOR]of the RW/RR Challenges (with a Bubble/Wild Card format)
[B][U]The lists of top 25 consists of the following:[/U][/B]
- Competitors who have won many challenges
- Competitors who have a good elimination record
- Competitors who performed well in missions
- Competitors who had a good rookie debut
- Competitors who have experience
- Competitors who were runner-up and peformed well enough
(if challengers have done one of these, you will most likely see them here)
*[B]BOLDED competitors mean that they should probably be switched and may later be switched. Asking for your own opinions first of the possible switches?[/B]
[B]Top 25[/B] [B][COLOR=blue]Males[/COLOR][/B] [B]List [/B]
01. Landon Leuck
02. Mark Long
03. C.T Tamburello
04. Alton Williams
05. Mike Mizanin
06. Dan Setzler
07. Timmy Beggy
08. Darrell Taylor
[B]09. Derrick Kosinski [/B]
[B]10. Abram Boise[/B]
[B]11. Theo Vonkurnatowski [/B]
[B]12. Evan Starkman[/B]
[B]13. Kenny Santucci [/B]
14. Brad Fiorenza
15. Eric Nies
[B]16. Jamie Murray [/B]
[B]17. Wes Bergmann[/B]
18. Shane Landrum
19. Johny Devenanzio
20. Frank Roessler
21. M.J Garrett
22. Syrus Yarbrough
23. Adam Larson
24. Randy Barry
25. David Burns
[B]WILD CARD[/B]
26. Colin Mortenson
27. Dunbar Flinn
28. James Orlando
29. Pete Conolly
30. Adam King
31. Ryan Kehoe
32. Eric Banks
33. Cohutta Grindstaff
34. Nehemiah Clark
35. Chadwick Pelletier
36. Derek McCray
37. Ace Amerson
38. Tyrie Ballard
39. Nathan Blackburn
40. Noor Jehangir
41. Dave Guintoli
[B][COLOR=blue]NOTES:[/COLOR][/B]
- I gave Derrick the slight edge over Abram because I felt they were a bit around the same.. but I gave the tiebreaker to Derrick cause he had more challenge wins.
- I randomly selected Evan over Kenny for the 12th spot cause I felt they were equal.
[B][COLOR=black]Top 25 [COLOR=red]Females[/COLOR] List[/COLOR][/B]
[B]01. Evelyn Smith[/B]
[B]02. Jodi Weatherton[/B]
[B]03. Rachel Robinson[/B]
[B]04. Susie Meister[/B]
[B]05. Veronica Portillo[/B]
[B]06. Aneesa Ferreira [/B]
[B]07. Coral Smith[/B]
08. Tina Barta
09. Kina Dean
10. Jillian Zoboroski
11. Jenn Grijalva
12. Holly Shand
13. Ruthie Alcaide
14. Sarah Greyson
15. Diem Brown
16. Robin Hibbard
17. KellyAnne Judd
18. Tori Hall
19. Laurel Stucky
20. Emily Bailey
[B]21. Beth Stolarcyzk[/B]
[B]22. Cara Zavaleta[/B]
[B]23. Brittini Sherod [/B]
[B]24. Paula Meronek [/B]
[B]25. Sarah Rice[/B]
[B]WILD CARD[/B]
[B]26. Svetlana Shusterman[/B]
[B]27. Johanna Botta[/B]
[B]28. Aviv Melmed[/B]
29. Jamie Chung
30. Tonya Cooley
31. Katie Doyle
32. Roni Martin
33. Ellen Cho
34. Holly Brentson
35. Kendal Sheppard
36. Kimberly Alexander
37. Ibis Nieves
38. Christena Pyle
39. Julie Stoffer
40. Sophia Pasquis
41. Jannelle Casanave
42. Carley Johnson
43. Rachel Moyal
[COLOR=red][B]NOTES:[/B][/COLOR]
- I listed Susie over Rachel because Susie won 2 out of 4 and Rachel won 2 out of 6, also Susie's elimination record is better.(even though some consider Rachel better)
- I listed Laurel at 19 even though she has already proved herself to be top 10 cause of her strength and size.. but I felt it would be wrong to put her top 10 cause she only been one challenge.
- Even though Carley did win Fresh Meat 2, I still don't consider top 25 or even good. I still believe she is a horrible competitor because she really didn't do anything. She is lucky to have Landon as a partner, cause Landon won SOLO.
[B]Challengers on CUTTHROATwho can go up or go down on the list:[/B]
[COLOR=black][B]TOP 25: [/B][COLOR=red]Brad[/COLOR],[COLOR=red]Paula[/COLOR],[COLOR=red]Tori[/COLOR],[COLOR=blue]Derrick[/COLOR],[COLOR=blue]Johny[/COLOR],[COLOR=blue]Jenn[/COLOR],[COLOR=dimgray]Abram[/COLOR],[COLOR=dimgray]Laurel[/COLOR],[/COLOR][COLOR=dimgray]Sarah[/COLOR]
[B]WILDCARD:[/B] [COLOR=red]Dunbar[/COLOR],[COLOR=blue]Eric[/COLOR],[COLOR=blue]Katie[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black](notice how every team in Cutthroat has 3 top 25 players according to my list)[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=black]RESPONSES: [/COLOR][COLOR=red]Deleted[/COLOR][/B]
[B]RECENT SWITCHES/ADDS:[/B]
[B]6:24 p.m [9/14/10][/B] - Laurel moved to #19, Beth moved to #20
[B]6:51 p.m[/B] [B][9/14/10] -[/B] Rachel moved to #3, Susie moved to #4
[B]7:00 p.m [9/14/10][/B] - Emily Bailey added to list as #20
[B]7:03 p.m [9/14/10][/B] - Svetlana moved to #26, Brittini moved to #23, Cara moved to #22, Beth moved to #21
[QUOTE=jhl182;207120]1) Inferno 1
2) Inferno 2
3) Inferno 1
4) Gauntlet 1
Those were all great challenges.[/QUOTE]
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think i'm gonna search those and watch them again :))
They were great challenges indeed!
[QUOTE]
What are some mistakes of my lists?
What did you like of my lists?
[/QUOTE]
I'm just amazed as to:
1) Why you'd put Aneesa, Beth and Robin higher than Laurel. Granted she may not deserve to be even top 10, but I think she may be higher than those 3
2) I know Paula is emotional, but number 20????? I don't understand why you'd put Aneesa above her. ( Did she beat aneesa or not?) I remembered someone beat Aneesa, and I honestly don't think Paula is THAT weak.
3) Where's ma girl Casey???? You should skip forward to number 100 and put her there. LOL!!!
4) I also won't put Sarah Rice that far down, she did pretty good and if i had to chhose, i'd put her up there with Kelly-Anne
5) I may not agree with the whole list, but those are the ones that really stood out to me. Esp from the girls list
[QUOTE=cryssy19;207165]I'm just amazed as to:
1) Why you'd put Aneesa, Beth and Robin higher than Laurel. Granted she may not deserve to be even top 10, but I think she may be higher than those 3
2) I know Paula is emotional, but number 20????? I don't understand why you'd put Aneesa above her. ( Did she beat aneesa or not?) I remembered someone beat Aneesa, and I honestly don't think Paula is THAT weak.
3) Where's ma girl Casey???? You should skip forward to number 100 and put her there. LOL!!!
4) I also won't put Sarah Rice that far down, she did pretty good and if i had to chhose, i'd put her up there with Kelly-Anne
5) I may not agree with the whole list, but those are the ones that really stood out to me. Esp from the girls list[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to argue with you, but:
Aneesa beat Paula twice, once in the Duel and another win against her in the Duel 2. Paula did beat Aneesa in the Inferno 3 with one of the most dumbest elimination games yet. Aneesa had a bad knee at the time and also the game was climbing up the wall with your body, which sucks cause it was a huge dissadvantage for Aneesa. Bottom Line: Aneesa is way better (hands down), all you have to look at is her impressive elimination record and that is it.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;207165]I'm just amazed as to:
1) Why you'd put Aneesa, Beth and Robin higher than Laurel. Granted she may not deserve to be even top 10, but I think she may be higher than those 3
2) I know Paula is emotional, but number 20????? I don't understand why you'd put Aneesa above her. ( Did she beat aneesa or not?) I remembered someone beat Aneesa, and I honestly don't think Paula is THAT weak.
3) Where's ma girl Casey???? You should skip forward to number 100 and put her there. LOL!!!
4) I also won't put Sarah Rice that far down, she did pretty good and if i had to chhose, i'd put her up there with Kelly-Anne
5) I may not agree with the whole list, but those are the ones that really stood out to me. Esp from the girls list[/QUOTE]
This is just what I think
1) probably because they did more challenges.
2) Paula did defeat Aneesa in an elimination. However Aneesa has been an excellent performer in head on head performances
4) Sarah Rice only has done 2 challenges, one where she made it to the end.
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