Challenge 2000: 7.5
Extreme Challenge: 7
Battle Of The Seasons: 8.5
[B]Battle Of The Sexes: 9
The Gauntlet: 9
The Inferno: 9[/B]
Battle Of The Sexes 2: 6.5
The Inferno 2: 8
The Gauntlet 2: 6.5
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Fresh Meat: 6
The Duel: 8
The Inferno 3: 6.5
The Gauntlet 3: 6.5
The Island: 4
The Duel 2: 6
The Ruins: 7.6
Fresh Meat 2: 5
In conclusion. Best challenges imo Battle Of The Sexes 1, Gauntlet 1, Inferno 1.
Huge drop from Inferno 1 and Battle Of The Sexes 2.
The Duel was probably the best "new school" challenge.
If I had to give them 1-10 rankings, I think it'd look something like this:
Challenge 2000: 8.5
Extreme Challenge: 8
BOTSeasons: 9
BOTSexes: 9.5
Gauntlet: 9
Inferno: 9
BOTSexes 2: 7
Inferno 2: 6.5
Gauntlet 2: 9
Fresh Meat: 6
Duel: 8
Inferno 3: 5
Gauntlet 3: 7
Island: 4
Duel 2: 5
Ruins: 6.5
Fresh Meat 2: 6.5 or 7ish so far.
I loved BOTSexes, Seasons, Inferno, and the first 2 Gauntlets. Also loved the non voteoff challenges. BOTSexes 2 had a great cast but was pretty boring overall; Duel had a terrible cast but ended up being a pretty great challenge; Inferno 2 was just meh... not a big fan of the cast but liked the finale outcome; Ruins was just okay to me, it was kind of wasted potential I think. Inferno 3 and Duel 2 get the low rankings for really just being so.... boring. They just weren't exciting at all, IMO. Duel 2 was one of the better casts assembled in recent years though. Fresh Meat wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great by any means (and I partially blame it for the decline in quality of the recent challenges). Gauntlet 3 was pretty good, but it was a frustrating challenge to watch. I had never hated a team more than I hated the veterans on that challenge, so it was sweet sweet vengeance to watch them fail in the finale, even if it did mean Frank, Jillian, and Nehemiah winning... and the Island, well... I don't think the cast was great or anything, but sometimes I wonder how it would've played out if it were that cast and a regular challenge, but oh well.
Okay so I've noticed that so many people on here enjoyed The Gauntlet 3, and I'm curious why... The teams were so lopsided and it just got annoying to me. Had Coral not been on the show, it'd have been one of the worst challenges ever.
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;177973]Okay so I've noticed that so many people on here enjoyed The Gauntlet 3, and I'm curious why... The teams were so lopsided and it just got annoying to me. Had Coral not been on the show, it'd have been one of the worst challenges ever.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you mean. However even though I love Coral, I enjoyed the cast as a whole. If the teams were a little more even then it would have been my top 3 favorite challenges. The reason I liked it was because of the competitions and the drama that went on. I think it was interesting for us to see some new people take on the drama roles. I mean usually when there is a scapegoat on a team it always someone like Beth or one of the hated people. I though it was interesting to see the rookie team use Jillian and Frank as that scapegoat even though they were awsome competitors in the challenge. The Beth and Coral gauntlet was pretty good since it was two old school vets. I liked how Frank and Jill took each player out one by one after being looked at as easy targets. I didn't get why Melinda though felt Jillian would be the easiest to beat. Yea she was the smallest but still, after seeing her kick 3 others girls ***** who are bigger than her, she would be my last pick to go up against lol. The challenges were good and I think overall it was a good challenge.
I would say one of my personal favorites was the Gauntlet 2. It had an awsome cast, great competitions, great drama, and great gauntlets. The final mission was blah but every challenge has something that sucks about it.
The Inferno 1 and 2 were really good too. Gauntlet 1 was also really good. Battles of the sexes 1 was good because the competitions were fun and it has good drama. Battle of the sexes 2 sucked because it was a no brainer the guys were going to win. Fresh Meat was okay but the exiles sucked. The duel was really good because the cast was good and it was a brand new challenge with a cool idea. The Inferno 3 was blah. It had a good cast but there was something about it that made me not love it so much. I didn't hate it but i wouldn't put it in my like top 7 or 8 favorite challenges. Also I feel with that season they did that thing on tv where they would air the episodes in the day time before the 10pm time which kinda ****** me off. The island sucked. Okay cast but lame idea. The Duel 2 was good but I felt each episode was the same thing because the same people would be picked everytime in the same order. They should have done it like the first duel where you just pick right after the mission instead of having a whole day to make the order. The ruins was good because the cast was good. However the missions were kinda blah at some points. Fresh meat 2 is doing better than expected but I am getting sick of the wes vs kenny storyline ever episode. I hope season 20 is good.
I liked Battle of the Sexes, it seemed boring to me, but then I thought about it, and it was a very entertaining challenge with a lot of good drama and the missions were great.
Fresh Meat was okay. Nothing great. :/
The Duel was a good challenge, I really liked it. It had a good cast!
The Gauntlet 3 had a good cast, but the challenge overall was blah for me. I didn't really like it that much; it was okay.
The Island had a good idea, but it's execution wasn't that great. I still liked it, except the end.
The Duel 2 was the first challenge I watched and I really liked it. In retrospect, it wasn't as great as other challenges but I still enjoyed it.
The Ruins had a good cast and a lot of drama. I liked it but once again it wasn't my favorite.
Fresh Meat 2 has been proving to be better than expected. Like, right now I'm eagerly waiting for 9 o'clock to roll around cause I want to see what happens, which I normally don't feel for RW or the Challenges. Wes vs. Kenny is a little tiring, but it's still a good challenge.
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That's my (short) summary of all the challenges I've watched (: I've watched bits and pieces of Battle of the Seasons (like the first 3 episodes) and I LOVED it but I can't find episode 4. I also watched the first 7 episodes of Battle of the Sexes 2 and it was good, but kind of boring. I really want to find a place where I can watch the "old school" challenges!
Does anybody know if Rachel & Veronica are still fueding with each other? It was said on Speak Reality that a personal issue came up between them and they just stopped being friends
All Star-6.7
Battle of the Seasons-8.5
Battle of the Sexes-9.0
The Gauntlet-3.3
The Inferno-5.7
BOTSexes 2-6.5
The Inferno 2-0.0
The Gauntlet 2-9.2
Fresh Meat-4.4
The Duel-7.6
The Inferno 3-0.0
The Gauntlet 3-5.3
The Island-6.3
The Duel 2-7.1
The Ruins-8.4
My thoughts on challenges i watched.
BOTSeasons: Really good cuz Belou was crazy and awsome for screaming and cussing out Chadwick & Holly.
BOTSexes: Loved it. It was the 1st challenge I ever saw and I loved Puck VS Ellen and the ongoing rift between Emily VS Veronica
The Gauntlet: Loved it because Katie was a wild beast, loved the 3 sum with Abram, Rachel & Veronica, and loved how Sarah was sent in almost every gauntlet, won each of them and was a winner in the final mission.
The Inferno: Loved it cuz Katie was an even more wild beast, i thought Darrell & Leah were such a cute couple, but wish they were still together, and I loved how Julie wanted to wrestle Coral, but would have gotten her *** beat.
BOTSexes 2: Was good until Angela & Rachel got sent home because the main reason why I liked that season was seeing the mean girls pick on Angela. I just realized Frank hooked up with 2 of the Xtreme girls. He had a fling with Angela and is still dating Jillian.
The Inferno 2: My favorite challenge along with The Ruins. loved the Robin VS Tonya VS Beth fight over Mark Long. Also loved the mean girls VS Tonya
Its also funny how Julie challenged Coral to a duel and 3 years later there was in fact a Challenge with a duel format.
[QUOTE=Eamoney;177993]Does anybody know if Rachel & Veronica are still fueding with each other? It was said that a personal issue came up between them and they just stopped being friends[/QUOTE]
Yeah they stopped being friends but it has nothing to do with the show itself so thats probably why alot of people haven't heard about it.
[QUOTE=Eamoney;177995]
BOTSexes 2: Was good until Angela & Rachel got sent home because the main reason why I liked that season was seeing the mean girls pick on Angela. I just realized Frank hooked up with 2 of the Xtreme girls. He had a fling with Angela and is still dating Jillian.[/QUOTE]
Lol even funnier, every guy Angela wanted on the show, Jillian took. Angela had a thing with Patrick on Xtreme and then Jillian took him away. Then Angela had a fling with Frank and now Jillian is dating him. That's my girl =]
Let's rank the 10 best challengers of all time based on performance, and not necessarily on wins or number of appearances...
1. Alton
2. CT
3. Derrick
4. Abram
5. Darrell
6. Wes
7. Evan
8. Evelyn
9. Landon
10. Frank/Kenny
I don't have too much knowledge on the earlier challenges so others may disagree.
what say you?
what say you?
[QUOTE=Eamoney;177993]Does anybody know if Rachel & Veronica are still fueding with each other? It was said on Speak Reality that a personal issue came up between them and they just stopped being friends[/QUOTE]
I'm sure its in a couple of threads here somewhere.........you would just have to read.
Have you guys seen what Jillian is posting on facebook? Saying that FM 2 is the highest rated show on TV, and that her and Frank are now banned from Challenges, for spending their G3 money on putting Tonya in Rehab. She's saying MTV is ****** off at them for doing that, because they had no right to.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;178013]Have you guys seen what Jillian is posting on facebook? Saying that FM 2 is the highest rated show on TV, and that her and Frank are now banned from Challenges, for spending their G3 money on putting Tonya in Rehab. She's saying MTV is ****** off at them for doing that, because they had no right to.[/QUOTE]
In case you haven't figured it out yet, Jillian's quite the sarcastic one.
I'll do this, it sounds like fun. I'm ready for all the Wes lovers to hate me more.
1. CT: Interchangeable with Landon. Vs Landon, he'd win anything except for distance running or climbing.
2. Landon: Interchangeable with CT - I gave CT the nod because Landon would only beat CT in the 2 things I mentioned.
3. Alton: Alton might be tied with the first 2 but he gave a not so stellar showing on I3 and I think the other 2 are simply better.
(It's hard to decide for sure with the next 3 so I guess even though they are numbered in order, it can change.)
4. Evan: A good strategist and leader. He just gets nervous and flustered in one on ones.
5. Abram: Good like Evan, smart like Evan, BUT he doesn't get nervous like Evan. He just isn't physically as big and strong as Evan.
6. Derrick: Great, strong, but not the smartest. Otherwise he would be placed higher.
7. Mark: He may be old but he is def not out of his prime.
8. Timmy: He always surprises the **** out of me. Unlike Mark, I think he's just not as good as before.
9. Frank: He was really smart in his gauntlets on G3 but he didn't really go up against anyone that great.
10.Darrell: The biggest champ yet hasn't really proved to be the best, in my opinion. He does well at avoiding one on ones but I think many people would beat him one on one.
Overrated people:
Brad: Yes he made it to the finals on Duel 1, G3, and Duel 2 BUT who has he beat that was really good? His wins against CT and Landon were BS. I do think Brad is good, but not in the top 10.
Wes: He's great a swimming and.... what else? On Duel 1, he placed pretty low in a lot of the missions. The only ones he won were swimming.
Adam Larson: Why people think he is so good is beyond me. He was talking a big game about how he was going to kill Derrick in their gauntlet yet Derrick whooped him.
Remember guys, this is my opinion so don't get all angry at life because I posted this.
[QUOTE=faceless;178017]I'll do this, it sounds like fun. I'm ready for all the Wes lovers to hate me more.
1. CT: Interchangeable with Landon. Vs Landon, he'd win anything except for distance running or climbing.
2. Landon: Interchangeable with CT - I gave CT the nod because Landon would only beat CT in the 2 things I mentioned.
3. Alton: Alton might be tied with the first 2 but he gave a not so stellar showing on I3 and I think the other 2 are simply better.
(It's hard to decide for sure with the next 3 so I guess even though they are numbered in order, it can change.)
4. Evan: A good strategist and leader. He just gets nervous and flustered in one on ones.
5. Abram: Good like Evan, smart like Evan, BUT he doesn't get nervous like Evan. He just isn't physically as big and strong as Evan.
6. Derrick: Great, strong, but not the smartest. Otherwise he would be placed higher.
7. Mark: He may be old but he is def not out of his prime.
8. Timmy: He always surprises the **** out of me. Unlike Mark, I think he's just not as good as before.
9. Frank: He was really smart in his gauntlets on G3 but he didn't really go up against anyone that great.
10.Darrell: The biggest champ yet hasn't really proved to be the best, in my opinion. He does well at avoiding one on ones but I think many people would beat him one on one.
Overrated people:
Brad: Yes he made it to the finals on Duel 1, G3, and Duel 2 BUT who has he beat that was really good? His wins against CT and Landon were BS. I do think Brad is good, but not in the top 10.
Wes: He's great a swimming and.... what else? On Duel 1, he placed pretty low in a lot of the missions. The only ones he won were swimming.
Adam Larson: Why people think he is so good is beyond me. He was talking a big game about how he was going to kill Derrick in their gauntlet yet Derrick whooped him.
Remember guys, this is my opinion so don't get all angry at life because I posted this.[/QUOTE]
Me and you get into pretty heated debates about Wes, but today, I'm going to tip my hat off to you. His ego is the size of... foewifjwoeiadsjafljew. I've really distanced myself from him. Especially with him thinking he's the best Challenger in the past five years. I agree with your top three. However, I'd throw Brad and Wes in there. Somewhere near the bottom( yes, I still think Wes is top 10)I don't think Frank and Timmy have the edge over them. I'm not calling them bad at all. I'm saying maybe 11 and 12 for them.
[QUOTE=r3iKo;178020]Me and you get into pretty heated debates about Wes, but today, I'm going to tip my hat off to you. His ego is the size of... foewifjwoeiadsjafljew. I've really distanced myself from him. Especially with him thinking he's the best Challenger in the past five years. I agree with your top three. However, I'd throw Brad and Wes in there. Somewhere near the bottom( yes, I still think Wes is top 10)I don't think Frank and Timmy have the edge over them. I'm not calling them bad at all. I'm saying maybe 11 and 12 for them.[/QUOTE]
I picked Frank because of how smart he was in his gauntlets. Not how big or strong he was but the fact that he used his head. I picked Timmy because Timmy is a leader and smart. Wes is pulling really bad moves right now. Timmy may not be as strong as Brad and Wes physically but I think he makes up for it in different ways.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;178021]I really like your opinion faceless, lol.[/QUOTE]
I like your opinion too.
[QUOTE=faceless;178017]I'll do this, it sounds like fun. I'm ready for all the Wes lovers to hate me more.
1. CT: Interchangeable with Landon. Vs Landon, he'd win anything except for distance running or climbing.
2. Landon: Interchangeable with CT - I gave CT the nod because Landon would only beat CT in the 2 things I mentioned.
3. Alton: Alton might be tied with the first 2 but he gave a not so stellar showing on I3 and I think the other 2 are simply better.
(It's hard to decide for sure with the next 3 so I guess even though they are numbered in order, it can change.)
4. Evan: A good strategist and leader. He just gets nervous and flustered in one on ones.
5. Abram: Good like Evan, smart like Evan, BUT he doesn't get nervous like Evan. He just isn't physically as big and strong as Evan.
6. Derrick: Great, strong, but not the smartest. Otherwise he would be placed higher.
7. Mark: He may be old but he is def not out of his prime.
8. Timmy: He always surprises the **** out of me. Unlike Mark, I think he's just not as good as before.
9. Frank: He was really smart in his gauntlets on G3 but he didn't really go up against anyone that great.
10.Darrell: The biggest champ yet hasn't really proved to be the best, in my opinion. He does well at avoiding one on ones but I think many people would beat him one on one.
Overrated people:
Brad: Yes he made it to the finals on Duel 1, G3, and Duel 2 BUT who has he beat that was really good? His wins against CT and Landon were BS. I do think Brad is good, but not in the top 10.
Wes: He's great a swimming and.... what else? On Duel 1, he placed pretty low in a lot of the missions. The only ones he won were swimming.
Adam Larson: Why people think he is so good is beyond me. He was talking a big game about how he was going to kill Derrick in their gauntlet yet Derrick whooped him.
Remember guys, this is my opinion so don't get all angry at life because I posted this.[/QUOTE]
This is bull****!! blah blah blah!!! you can't be more wrong!!! ;) hahah jk! Good points.
Your list was pretty close to mine faceless... What about The Miz? I know he didn't do so hot on BotSexes 2, but he was quite the beast in his earlier days.
Sean from RW Boston also...
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;178030]Your list was pretty close to mine faceless... What about The Miz? I know he didn't do so hot on BotSexes 2, but he was quite the beast in his earlier days.
Sean from RW Boston also...[/QUOTE]
I actually forgot about Mike. I'd switch him out with Frank actually.
To prove that Wes really is super arrogant, a new daily today was about how Wes thinks he is the BEST challenger in the past 5 years. He said that the ONLY show that could show how good someone is is conveniently the Duel 1. He even said the Duel 2 didn't count. Wow, Wes, just.... wow.
faceless, good list, good points.
Most of those people would be on my list too. I would probably switch out Frank and Derrick and put on Kenny and Mike or Jaime.
Kenny has made it to the end of 5 of his 6 challenges (excluding FM2) and won 3. Politically, he is very smart. He is also a lot stronger than he lets people know, and only shows his teeth when he has to. He really knows how to play the game.
I would switch Frank out simply because he's only won one challenge, and didn't do so hot on his first challenge. Definitely a good competitor physically, but he hasn't really gone head-to-head with anyone else on the list.
Derrick I would put on the overrated list. I feel on the Island and The Ruins he was really grandfathered to the final mission. Everytime he competed against someone on faceless' list he lost (like Darrell, Timmy, even Wes). Sure, he has a fairly impressive performance on the Gauntlet 2, but it wasn't any more impressive than Aneesa's performance on the Duel 1, and I would hardly consider Aneesa a strong competitor. A lot of people seem to think he's an amazing competitor but I just don't see it.
A top 10 list for guys is very hard to do. I'd like to even throw Kenny up there. There's to much give credit for, whether it be physical strength, or smarts. I think we'd have to specify it more on what we're grading them on.
I agree with a lot of the people on your list, faceless, and would probably rank the top three the same (top two definitely - I think CT was a bit more dominant in missions, though, so I probably wouldn't consider him and Landon interchangeable).
What about RR Theo, though? He always competed well, and he and Holly were pretty dominant for a stretch on Battle of the Seasons.
Concerning the talk about what the last great challenge was and such, for me it was also I2. The big cutoff for me started with G2 (even though it had a pretty good cast) - the challenges started to feel different and not as exciting. For me things really went downhill then. I do agree that through to the Inferno, challenges were really great and that was the prime of the challenges. BOTS2 didn't quite measure up to the challenges before it, yet it still had a great cast and an older school vibe, and it was one of the last ones I was super excited to see, so there isn't a huge division there for me. Going further down the list, The Duel was another small division in the challenges being different. I know I'm in the minority, but for a while, The Duel was my least favorite challenge. Besides the "outcasts" coming together to take out the popular alliance click, it was boring to me and I didn't care much for the cast.
[QUOTE=iMichael;178099]faceless, good list, good points. Most of those people would be on my list too. I would probably switch out Frank and Derrick and put on Kenny and Mike or Jaime.
[B]Kenny has made it to the end of 5 of his 6 challenges (excluding FM2) and won 3. Politically, he is very smart. He is also a lot stronger than he lets people know, and only shows his teeth when he has to. He really knows how to play the game.[/B]
I would switch Frank out simply because he's only won one challenge, and didn't do so hot on his first challenge. Definitely a good competitor physically, but he hasn't really gone head-to-head with anyone else on the list. Derrick I would put on the overrated list. I feel on the Island and The Ruins he was really grandfathered to the final mission. Everytime he competed against someone on faceless' list he lost (like Darrell, Timmy, even Wes). Sure, he has a fairly impressive performance on the Gauntlet 2, but it wasn't any more impressive than Aneesa's performance on the Duel 1, and I would hardly consider Aneesa a strong competitor. A lot of people seem to think he's an amazing competitor but I just don't see it.[/QUOTE]
In case you missed it, the person said to name the 10 best competitors and IGNORE wins/appearances, and said nothing about naming the best people at having their friends carry them to the end. My top 10:
1. CT: the most dominant player and an absolute force on every Challenge he's been on past the first episode
2. Landon: great athlete, best player on the Good Guys team in I2.
3. Alton: only 3 Challenges, but was a dominant player on 2 of them.
4. Miz: the first real Challenge force, performed very well in every Challenge he did except BOTS2, and bonus points for being a great leader.
5. Theo V.: probably could have switched him up with the Miz, I don't know. They were the first real rivalry to span out over multiple seasons. They had a great respect for each other as competitors though. We've almost definitely seen the last of the two of them.
6. Evan: probably could have ranked him as high as 4. Yes, he's a ****** most of the time, but I've never questioned his ability as a physical player, and he has been a great one since FM1.
7. Abram: intense guy, would have liked to see him in a few more eliminations because of how fired up he gets.
8. Mark: performed well on Duel 2 despite being easily the oldest guy there. People can say he didn't go into the Duel, but no one called him out! Come on, Duel 3!!!
9. Timmy: solid player, definitely miss him for his competitiveness and his humor.
10. Darrell: I'll give him the nod over Wes/Derrick/Brad here on the basis that I think Darrell would probably beat any of them in most of the one-on-one elimination rounds we've seen.
[QUOTE=iMichael;178099]faceless, good list, good points.
Most of those people would be on my list too. I would probably switch out Frank and Derrick and put on Kenny and Mike or Jaime.
Kenny has made it to the end of 5 of his 6 challenges (excluding FM2) and won 3. Politically, he is very smart. He is also a lot stronger than he lets people know, and only shows his teeth when he has to. He really knows how to play the game.
I would switch Frank out simply because he's only won one challenge, and didn't do so hot on his first challenge. Definitely a good competitor physically, but he hasn't really gone head-to-head with anyone else on the list.
Derrick I would put on the overrated list. I feel on the Island and The Ruins he was really grandfathered to the final mission. Everytime he competed against someone on faceless' list he lost (like Darrell, Timmy, even Wes). Sure, he has a fairly impressive performance on the Gauntlet 2, but it wasn't any more impressive than Aneesa's performance on the Duel 1, and I would hardly consider Aneesa a strong competitor. A lot of people seem to think he's an amazing competitor but I just don't see it.[/QUOTE]
I do think Derrick is a force to be looked out for. His showing on G2 was a while ago and he was "grandfathered" in the final on the Island and Ruins. But it isn't like he didn't pull his weight. On the Island he was the reason Johnny won. He aided his alliance and helped them win. On the ruins, he worked hard like everyone on the team and without a doubt is stronger then Kenny and Johnny. I think Kenny is a great social player but in my list, I was talking about physical prowess and intelligence in missions. It's fine to me who you want on your list but this is my list.
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