Tonya in my opinion has evolved in the Challenges and people felt really sorry for her during The Island and The Ruins and during her later shows we saw a more nicer Tonya but we can not forget about the old Tonya circa The Inferno 2 and Battle of the Sexes 2 where she was a little wild, she was calmer on Battle of the Sexes 1 and The Gauntlet but I hated Tonya on her season of The Real World Chicago, she was so mean to everyone and she like everyone says was a DramaQueen although i felt bad over her kidney stones problem,Glad to see she has chaneged throughout the years.
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;168908]
And yes, Wes absolutely did [B]have a target on his back the minute he walked in because he didn't confirm to anyone that he was doing the challenge[/B]. Did you not see the daillies where he walks in and the first thing Even does is confront him about not having told him that he was doing the challenge? He became a target the minute he walked in.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? Wes had a target on him becasue of THAT!?
First of all Wes didin't have to tell ANYONE that he's doing a challenge. He's not obligated to tell anybody anything PERIOD.
He's not obligated to tell anyone anything about if he's going to be on a challenge or not. But, it definitely puts a target on his back if he lied to everyone about being on the challenge. No one will trust him.
[QUOTE=SurferZ;169412]He's not obligated to tell anyone anything about if he's going to be on a challenge or not. But, it definitely puts a target on his back if he lied to everyone about being on the challenge. No one will trust him.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you're right.
In that case Wes should've just said. "look don't worry about it" and hung up the phone.
And Can we all just agree that Wes and JEK are equally horrible?
I still hope Wes and JEK do challenges, but I'm tired of them winning. At the same time nobody brings the drama and conflicts in the challenges like they do.
[QUOTE=TheQuietOne;169617]But you know someone will argue that it's not really an accurate display of who is better because they had partners. I've had that discussion with a few of my friends already...[/QUOTE]
When it comes to who is stronger, I don't think we'll ever know who comes out on top. But I think it's safe to say if Kenny does win this challenge, he is better at strictly playing the game.
[QUOTE=nellygrl;169629]When it comes to who is stronger, I don't think we'll ever know who comes out on top. But I think it's safe to say if Kenny does win this challenge, he is better at strictly playing the game.[/QUOTE]
Why do you say that? I'm honestly not trying to start an argument with you here; I just want to know why, especially in a challenge where your partner really matters when it comes to winning Exiles, his winning will mean he is better at playing the game.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;169637]Why do you say that? I'm honestly not trying to start an argument with you here; I just want to know why, especially in a challenge where your partner really matters when it comes to winning Exiles, his winning will mean he is better at playing the game.[/QUOTE]
Not the place to have this discussion...
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;169637]Why do you say that? I'm honestly not trying to start an argument with you here; I just want to know why, especially in a challenge where your partner really matters when it comes to winning Exiles, his winning will mean he is better at playing the game.[/QUOTE]
I mean in the sense that he just makes the right moves at the right times. Like Wes picking his partner... I mean, I realize he didn't have a ton of girls to choose from, but he picked Mandi over Sydney, which is what I consider just a bad move when it comes to playing the game. And then Wes is letting Theresa knock him off his game (at least that's the sense I'm getting from the promos), and that's another bad move on his part.
And then just the fact that he's won more challenges. And even though a lot of people will say that I'm just using that because I like Kenny, there has to be a point where that does count for something.
And this is all separate from who is actually athletically stronger. So that's what I mean by saying Kenny is better at playing the game rather then he's just stronger.
P.S. Just posted this and saw the post from the mod... Where should we have this discussion? I can move, lol.
[QUOTE=nellygrl;169640]I mean in the sense that he just makes the right moves at the right times. Like Wes picking his partner... I mean, I realize he didn't have a ton of girls to choose from, but he picked Mandi over Sydney, which is what I consider just a bad move when it comes to playing the game. And then Wes is letting Theresa knock him off his game (at least that's the sense I'm getting from the promos), and that's another bad move on his part.
[B]And then just the fact that he's won more challenges. And even though a lot of people will say that I'm just using that because I like Kenny, there has to be a point where that does count for something.[/B]
And this is all separate from who is actually athletically stronger. So that's what I mean by saying Kenny is better at playing the game rather then he's just stronger.
P.S. Just posted this and saw the post from the mod... Where should we have this discussion? I can move, lol.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that Kenny is on his SEVENTH challenge compared to only the fourth for Wes...so that argument really should not come into play.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;169647]You do realize Molds as already given a final warning for this discussion, correct?[/QUOTE]
Not a final warning for the discussion. A final warning for having this discussion where it shouldn't be so that it has to be moved to this thread.
Would I wish this discussion would die? Absolutely. But people will discuss it for as long as it's there...
I honestly had not realized it was moved from the spoilers area. That's what I get for making quick comments while in between calls on an autodialer at work.
As for the discussion, I'll skim as needed for here on out.
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Never watched Cancun myself but she does have a point about the Challenges being RW/RR based ... A good FM mission would be the Game Show that Mark Long hosted on BOTSeasons that Coral & Miz won. Make you find out about your partner.
[QUOTE=molds13;169664]Too bad they aren't actually called the RW/RR challenges anymore...[/QUOTE]
Some of us are still old school ... then again, others have no sense of history
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;169667]Some of us are still old school ... then again, others have no sense of history[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with history or whether you're old school or new school.
I just found it funny that she was like "it's called RW/RR challenges for a reason" when they aren't anymore. Therefore, there is no reason. They can invite as many FMers as they want because now it's just "the challenge".
Maybe BMP just doesn't like the "I would be great on a challenge, put me and my salami ******* on" desperation tweets.
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