The Real World: Generic Thread

Since we're on the subject, I have to say (with no offense meant to Colie'sMom), that I found Denver to be a truly terrible season redeemed only by Brooke and her craziness. Nothing personal against Colie either ;), but Brooke was really the only thing that kept me watching. It's still better than Austin though, which in my opinion is the worst season with far and away the most unlikeable cast assembled on The Real World. And also with Sydney, I think I'm one of the few people who didn't think that Trisha was some devil child. I thought Parisa was just as guilty of things as Trisha was. She (Parisa) always seemed like such a victim and all "woe is me", but really if I recall correctly, she brought a lot of it onto herself. That's not to say Trisha wasn't a ***** or wasn't ever in the wrong, but I didn't outright hate her like so many did. Shauvon though? Yikes. If The Real World is High School and The Challenges are College, than Shauvon put on her Freshman Fifteen and then some. Yowza.

I liked Sydney..there was so much drama!!!!

[QUOTE=mph922;165134]Since we're on the subject, I have to say (with no offense meant to Colie'sMom), that I found Denver to be a truly terrible season redeemed only by Brooke and her craziness. Nothing personal against Colie either ;), but Brooke was really the only thing that kept me watching.[/quote] Guys, I take no personal offense to anything anyone says. While on Vevmo I am just a blogger like everyone else. I have been there, done that. I can deal with it. LOL..who am I kidding.

Denver is one of my favorite seasons, along with Key West and Hollywood. I think the casts are awesome and it has the right amount of drama.

I agree with mph about Parisa. I actually like Trisha and Paris got on my nerves!

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;165153]I agree with mph about Parisa. I actually like Trisha and Paris got on my nerves![/QUOTE] Parisa could be just as bad as Tricia at times. I think Tricia just got nervous being so young in a house with older people and she seemed like she didn't hang w/ ppl much different from her back at her hometown so she was scared. That's why I think she came off so bad to the roomies. I bet she was cool if you got on her good side. But anyways I'm gonna start a new topic on here I want you to name every season you've seen and name your favorite cast member from that season and why. I'll start: Las Vegas - Arissa, I loved this whole cast but she was so relatable and entertaining. I love how funny that whole cast was. Paris - Ace, he was just such a good guy and he looked like one of the few that season that knew how to have fun. San Diego - Frankie, such a unique cast member dramatic but understandably dramatic. She was also very likable. Philly - I hated this season but Willie was funny as **** @ times. Austin - Wes, never before was being a cocky deuchebag such a lovable quality. Johanna would come 2nd shortly after for her drunken tyrades. Key West - Svetlana, I really wanted to punch Tyler and Janelle for being so horrible to her. Sure she may have embellished but Tyler was going way to far with that drama. You couldn't help but feel bad for her and like her. Denver - Alex, the only one on there who didn't come off as a mean individual @ one point. He made skinny guys look like they could be just as much of a player as a big meathead. Sydney - Isaac, he provided some really funny quotes from that season with his weird commentary. I remember him talking about how he used to do acid alot in that one episode where his grandpa dies. LOL not bc someone died because I don't think anything like thats ever been admitted on real world. Hollywood, and Brooklyn I didn't watch. Cancun - Bronne, because he was an original. Loved it when he told Emilee and Ayiiya off. D.C. - Mike, you can't help but like him. I'm not gonna explain why because this season was to recent.

New York-Julie because she was a complainer. lol. funny ****. Los Angeles-Beth S. I love this gal. Tami too. San Franscisco-Pedro and maybe Cory. Miami-Cynthia, Dan, Flora, Melissa and Joe Boston-Genesis, Syrus Seattle-David, Irene and Stephen Hawaii-Teck, Ruthie New Orleans-Nobody well maybe Melissa and Danny B2NY-Coral, Nicole, Mike, Rachel Chicago-Everybody Las Vegas-Everybody. I just hate that they were smokers. Paris-Adam, Christina, Ace, Leah, Mallory San Diego-Everybody (RIP Frankie) Philadelphia-Everybody Austin-Nehemiah, Rachel, Johanna, Wes and Lacey Key West-Johnny, Paula, Svetlana, Jose Denver-Everybody Sydney-Everybody yes even Trisha Hollywood-That one d-bag, Brianna, Nick and Brittni Brooklyn-Everybody Cancun-Ayiiia, Derek D.C.-Everybody but Andrew

I started trying to do this but my opinions of people changed SO much when they got onto the challenges (ex, didn't like Jenn from Denver or KellyAnne AT ALL in their seasons but love them on challenges) and I can't actually completely remember how I felt about people in their seasons, who I liked best. Perhaps I need to go back and watch old seasons of RW to remember. I've just been re-watching the challenges so my perspective is completely clouded to the original seasons. I'll just go with: DC: Mike, Andrew and Callie Edit: Just realized I could have also done Cancun but I didn't really LIKE anyone on Cancun. The only likeable people were boring, and the ones that were good to watch were jerks.

I've got a question for you guys... Out of all of the cities that The Real World has been to, which would you most and least like to see them revisit, and why?

[QUOTE=molds13;165567]I've got a question for you guys... Out of all of the cities that The Real World has been to, which would you most and least like to see them revisit, and why?[/QUOTE] [B] The Most:[/B] I'm going to have to say I would most like it to return to San Francisco because that is where the identity from the series was truly born. You had the issue and emotionally driven storyline of Pedro and the outcast instigator Puck - which was the mold from which all other casts were based. Not to mention they have already been back to LA and New York a couple of times and with next season being the last under contract and probably based on ratings the series finale, it would be a good place to bookend the show. [B]The Least:[/B] Anywhere overseas. The show just doesn't fit in an overseas setting. It becomes less real world and more vacation in an "exotic land." Paris would be the absolute worst in my opinion just because of the language and cultural barriers that took away from the core design of the show which is about real people in America dealing with logical intra-country cultural divides in a fish bowl. Paris would have fit better on the travel channel...

Most: Chicago. I'm biased because I'm from there but I also think it would be great to revisit. They've been to NY and California like 42 times and Chicago is a great city with a ton of stuff to do. Also, they hardly go anywhere in the midwest! Least: Hmm, I actually don't know. Any of the more recent seasons I would hold off on for awhile anyway. Especially Cancun. I don't think they should go back there because that is way too much of a vacation destination to me. I also agree with Bacchus about the other overseas seasons, even if I really liked Paris, and thought Sydney wasn't so bad.

Of all the ones I saw: Most: San Francisco, because the first 2 got the ball rolling but it picked up serious steam as Bacchus said because of Pedro (who got national recognition & had the first televised gay union -- truly groundbreaking stuff in 1994), Puck (all his antics including stuff he did to Pedro), Rachel (her GOP involvement) and Judd (continuing the trend of breaking into the broadcast center within the house & his comic strip). Least: I would go along with Paris being the least. Any of the foreign where they spoke English was not as bad as they could have been but the French language barrier made it worse.

[QUOTE=molds13;165567]I've got a question for you guys... Out of all of the cities that The Real World has been to, which would you most and least like to see them revisit, and why?[/QUOTE] That’s a great question! Top Picks: Miami: A lot has changed in this city since the Real World filmed there with probably the most notable being the large redevelopment of its downtown area. The city has always been very Cuban and gay centric, but over the past two decades a significant number of Russians have migrated there. Combine the social and city economics with the changing socio-economic background of the city, and I think it would be a great city for them to revisit. San Francisco: It’s a beautiful city, and unarguably one of the most powerful seasons of the Real World to date. Honestly, I can’t think of a better way for them to celebrate their 25th season than by going Back to the Bay. Aside from that, San Fran has also changed a great deal over the past 2 decades – for one, it has been ground zero for some of the biggest technology advances in the world. So BMP should put the cast live in the Castro in a house that oozes technology from Silicon Valley (lots of product placement from Apple, Google, etc). They also shouldn’t forget to include a wine cellar with all the great local flavors. Runner-Ups: Seattle: Beautiful city, interesting people, the city has a lot to offer. Philadelphia: Another city that is changing a lot in terms of food and culture. If they were to go back, I would hope they put them in a highrise in center city. Chicago: Lots of love for Chi-town. Same notation as Philly…put them in a highrise somewhere downtown.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;165572]Of all the ones I saw: Most: San Francisco, because the first 2 got the ball rolling but it picked up serious steam as Bacchus said because of Pedro (who got national recognition & had the first televised gay union -- truly groundbreaking stuff in 1994), Puck (all his antics including stuff he did to Pedro), Rachel (her GOP involvement) and Judd (continuing the trend of breaking into the broadcast center within the house & his comic strip). [/QUOTE] The only problem is, it won't be the same cast. Did you pick San Francisco because of the cast, or did you pick SF because it's a great location with a lot to offer? The way I look at it is that the location is truly what makes the season. The characters they cast for that season can be great...but do you think that Mike would have made as much of an impact had he been in Cancun? I believe that BMP casts the housemates somewhat based on the location. Sure, when they put out casting calls they say "what they are looking for", but they give many different ideas (and not all are casted for the season) and while they don't yet have a location picked out, BMP probably has a short list of 3 or 4 locations that they are deciding between for season 25. That's why I'm curious to see what people think would be a great city to revisit (if they decide to go that route). If you really look at it, each city that they have visited has somewhat more of a party or serious theme to it...similar to what they are doing now with alternating party/serious seasons. Cities like San Diego and Miami are more notorious for catering to young 20 somethings with their nightlife...cities like San Francisco, while it also has nightlife, is more of a political-minded city. I have always been a fan of Chicago and think it has a great mix of things to do. San Francisco has a TON of things to do and could also be a great location, especially in the summer/fall when they have lots of their parades. Los Angeles could also be great if you put them in the right neighborhood. I don't think anything in the last 7-8 years should be revisited, and agree with not going back overseas. I would hope that it's somewhere from the first 8 seasons.

I was thinking location AND cast. The problem that you've touched on is that they are now going for what they need as a stereotype it seems. Hypothetically, the discussion of who to get could go something like this: "Are we going for a party or serious season? We have to make sure we have the following: a meathead, a gay man, at least 1 minority and 1 serious player." My issue with their casting is that there seems to be something missing in terms of the originality of the castmates they choose. Originally, maybe this is my old school preference on it, they seemed to get really interesting people. Part of the problem may be that everyone knows what to expect now and they try to play to those roles in some sense, especially in the casting process. I'd prefer interesting people with interesting backgrounds to create that disparity. This also may be part of the social downcurve where people tend to be more interested in talking online than out talking to other people. I'm not saying it is the only reason but when the Real World first debuted, the internet was in its infancy at best. By the time Hawaii had rolled around, people were just starting social networking sites that and eventually we have MySpace, Facebook and Twitter. Some of us in our 30s remember those days when those sites never existed and how much quieter the world was. Wow, ok, not the ramble I expected but ... there it is. Note to self: No more ramble stream of consciousness typing while at work.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;165578]I was thinking location AND cast. The problem that you've touched on is that they are now going for what they need as a stereotype it seems. Hypothetically, the discussion of who to get could go something like this: "Are we going for a party or serious season? We have to make sure we have the following: a meathead, a gay man, at least 1 minority and 1 serious player." My issue with their casting is that there seems to be something missing in terms of the originality of the castmates they choose. Originally, maybe this is my old school preference on it, they seemed to get really interesting people. Part of the problem may be that everyone knows what to expect now and they try to play to those roles in some sense, especially in the casting process. I'd prefer interesting people with interesting backgrounds to create that disparity. [/QUOTE] A valid point, but to some extent the stereotypes are what make the show. People like to see someone they can identify with, whether they be gay, black, Republican, overweight, or anything. Either way, I was kind of hoping to steer clear of the casting discussion and stick strictly to location. They picked the locations for a reason...and the potential could be a season completely separate from the original, which could either be a good or a bad thing. For example, I think London and LA are completely different now. Would I want to have another season there? Probably not. But it's not like there's nothing to do, especially if you've never been there before. I also think that New Orleans has potential to be an amazing season. It's a perfect city for a cast that likes to party, and it's also a city that has lots of need for activism, volunteering, and good deeds.

[QUOTE=molds13;165580]A valid point, but to some extent the stereotypes are what make the show. People like to see someone they can identify with, whether they be gay, black, Republican, overweight, or anything. Either way, I was kind of hoping to steer clear of the casting discussion and stick strictly to location. They picked the locations for a reason...and the potential could be a season completely separate from the original, which could either be a good or a bad thing. For example, I think London and LA are completely different now. Would I want to have another season there? Probably not. But it's not like there's nothing to do, especially if you've never been there before. I also think that New Orleans has potential to be an amazing season. It's a perfect city for a cast that likes to party, and it's also a city that has lots of need for activism, volunteering, and good deeds.[/QUOTE] The stereotypes do help make the show but bland people can kill just as quickly. ... Back to locations: LA is overdone but London not so much in my opinion. Then again, I liked London the first time around. I think San Fran is a great city regardless the type of season they are looking forward to as it can work for both.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;165582] Back to locations: LA is overdone but London not so much in my opinion. Then again, I liked London the first time around. [/QUOTE] Overdone in what way? Hollywood and Los Angeles are completely different. I lived in a suburb of LA for 2 years that would be absolutely perfect for a RW season: beautiful location, population of 20-somethings that work hard and play harder, and a close proximity to the "must-sees" of LA (including Hollywood). I went to Hollywood maybe 10 times in 2 years. It wasn't really my type of scene. Like I said earlier...as long as they put them in the right neighborhood, LA could be awesome. But I might be a little biased because I'd probably sit there and say "HEY! I've been there!" every 5 minutes :D

I also meant overdone in terms of reality shows. With the amount of reality shows on the air, what percentage do NOT exist in the SoCal/L.A. area?

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;165587]I also meant overdone in terms of reality shows. With the amount of reality shows on the air, what percentage do NOT exist in the SoCal/L.A. area?[/QUOTE] That's a good point. Could be difficult to have a cast out and about in LA without running into another crew. But I can still dream, right? :D

If they went back to SF, they'd probably butcher it. You never know though, all three NY seasons were good as well as all three California seaons. Chicago would be my personal pick as well.

[FONT=Arial]I think location is a very important factor to the season, but I agree with Damon Furberg who has said that a good season is determined 20% by location and 80% cast (depending on the season). Realistically, I think you can put a “party” cast anywhere and they will party and have drama. However, a “serious” season has to have the right location, cast, and editing of stories aligned for it to resonate with the viewers. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I agree that New Orleans has the potential to be a great season; however, we also made those same comments about DC. It really depends on what goes down in that house that will determine the success of that season.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]It appears overwhelmingly that San Fran is the favorite to revisit. In order to have a successfully season, BMP does not need to replicate the original; however, they do need to draw pieces from it that remind people of why it is so important to RW’s history. And as I stated before, I wish they would do a technology-themed house that would remind us more about San Fran’s current importance in the world than an exact throw back to the 1990s. [/FONT]

[QUOTE=CannotTellU;165594][FONT=Arial]And as I stated before, I wish they would do a technology-themed house that would remind us more about San Fran's current importance in the world than an exact throw back to the 1990s. [/FONT][/QUOTE] There are certain staples in all RW houses now that were not in SF. Since London, they've removed the TVs and radios in an effort to keep people focused on interacting with each other. London was the last time they had a TV and Neil made a good job of setting the irony of it all when he did his bit in The Confessional with the placards which eventually spelled out the following: "I came home today to find Mike and Jay watching Beavis & ******** on MTV. Irony?" I laughed hysterically at it, especially with his expressions as he never said a word but let the placards do the talking. After that, the TV disappeared starting with Miami and the radios were gone starting with LA.

Okay well imo I hope that after B2NOLA there aren't any more repeat locations for a while. I think its annoying when you keep wondering what the next location is and then all of a sudden its somewhere they've already been to. One thing I love about the real world is that it showcases the positive side to any city and makes city life look fun to all of us small town America. It makes you long for city life. I think thats one of the reasons real world has worked for so long, it not only is entertaining as a social experiment but it shows you whats going on in other places of the world in a way that no other show does. It makes you say "aww I really wanna visit San Diego one day now", or "thats it...I wanna live in Seattle now so bad thanks to the real world, it looks so cool". Theirs so many places just solely in the U.S. they could go to have a show that they haven't been to yet. With the right cast any location could be fine: Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis, Portland, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Tampa, Boulder, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Orlando, Indianapolis, Aspen, Charlotte, Nashville, Cleavland, Maui, San Jose, Anchorage, Baltimore, Kansas City, Ft. Lauderdale, Tempe, Omaha. I think personally that international locations can easily work. I loved Sydney and I think if Paris hadn't come right in between 2 of the highest rated seasons of the real world the reputation for it would be a lot better. International Locations: Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Amsterdam, Rome, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Auckland, Melbourne, Wellington, Manchester, Liverpool, Cape Town, Bangkok, San Juan, Dubai. But anyways yeah I think that real world should keep showing us new locations, new cities, and new things. That is what I think is what keeps the real world going. But yeah real world 30...that should definitely be in San Francisco and if they do a similar season like B2NOLA it could be Las Vegas, bc like NOLA it was one of those landmark seasons with a great location. ...and one place they should never go again for a real world destination...CANCUN...what the heck...if your gonna go to a major party city keep it in the U.S. if you go international go to a huge major city with more things to do than just party. Cancun had to be the worst location ever for them to do a real world. But they should definitely keep this cycle of 3 they got going on: International city, Fun but Serious City, Fun-Party City.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;165595]There are certain staples in all RW houses now that were not in SF. Since London, they've removed the TVs and radios in an effort to keep people focused on interacting with each other. London was the last time they had a TV and Neil made a good job of setting the irony of it all when he did his bit in The Confessional with the placards which eventually spelled out the following: "I came home today to find Mike and Jay watching Beavis & ******** on MTV. Irony?" I laughed hysterically at it, especially with his expressions as he never said a word but let the placards do the talking. After that, the TV disappeared starting with Miami and the radios were gone starting with LA.[/QUOTE] Yea - I don't mean technology as in TVs and radios, per se. What I would like to see a hallway lined with IPads, a room with a crazy innovative virtual reality games, the return of the robotic dog for New Orleans (Airbow for those who want to look him up), and other amenities and gadgets that you would find in an MTV's cribs house or Bill Gates house. If they planned carefully they could do it on a strict budget and probably increase their revenues from product placement.

[QUOTE=mcis1979;165599][B]Okay well imo I hope that after B2NOLA there aren't any more repeat locations for a while.[/B] I think its annoying when you keep wondering what the next location is and then all of a sudden its somewhere they've already been to. One thing I love about the real world is that it showcases the positive side to any city and makes city life look fun to all of us small town America. It makes you long for city life. I think thats one of the reasons real world has worked for so long, it not only is entertaining as a social experiment but it shows you whats going on in other places of the world in a way that no other show does. It makes you say "aww I really wanna visit San Diego one day now", or "thats it...I wanna live in Seattle now so bad thanks to the real world, it looks so cool". [/quote] I think you might be disappointed. I have a feeling that one of the last seasons is going to be a "back to" season...and I don't think Real World is going to be around much longer. [quote]Theirs so many places just solely in the U.S. they could go to have a show that they haven't been to yet. With the right cast any location could be fine: Atlanta, [B]Detroit[/B], Minneapolis, Portland, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Tampa, Boulder, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Orlando, Indianapolis, Aspen, Charlotte, Nashville, Cleavland, Maui, San Jose, Anchorage, Baltimore, Kansas City, Ft. Lauderdale, Tempe, Omaha. [/quote] I have said it before and will say it again...Detroit will not work. The great thing about having RW in a big city is that the houses that the cast lives in are actually (address wise) in the city...but are in good locations as to not endanger the cast. There is not that luxury in Detroit... They would need to place the cast in a suburb outside of the city, and for those of us who are familiar with Detroit and the surrounding locations, it would be a cheat to call it Real World: Detroit when the house is in Royal Oak. Even for those who are not familiar with the city but don't live under a rock know about the economic downfall of the city. They couldn't get away with saying that the house is "in" Detroit because at best, it would be a good 20 minutes away. [quote][B]I think personally that international locations can easily work[/B]. I loved Sydney and I think if Paris hadn't come right in between 2 of the highest rated seasons of the real world the reputation for it would be a lot better.[/quote] International locations [I]could [/I]work, if the first language is English. The language barrier was painful to watch at times in Paris. Most of the cities you named do speak English as either a first or second language, but cities like Bangkok and Shanghai would not be good. You can't easily pick up Thai or Mandarin... [quote] But yeah [B]real world 30...that should definitely be in San Francisco [/B]and if they do a similar season like B2NOLA it could be Las Vegas, bc like NOLA it was one of those landmark seasons with a great location.[/quote] Real World 30? I really don't think they're gonna make it that far.

[QUOTE=mcis1979;165599] International Locations: Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Amsterdam, Rome, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Auckland, Melbourne, Wellington, Manchester, Liverpool, Cape Town, Bangkok, San Juan, Dubai. [/QUOTE] Of this list, they would have not just the forementioned Bangkok & Shanghai but Tokyo, Rome, Dubai, and Beijing as issues. If you want the Orient, go with Hong Kong because there is enough English spoken there that they could make their way around without too much worry. Amsterdam, while an interesting choice, would not necessarily work. Even Munich during OktoberFest would be fun but German can be more problematic than French to understand and don't even look at Moscow. I could see any of the 3 above from Canada or the other Australian, UK, and NZ locations plus San Juan Puerto Rico. English is prevalent enough in San Juan specifically that it would work but outside San Juan not as much. Capt Town is going to be more Afrikaans but will still have some English. Glasgow, Edinburgh or Dublin might all be interesting though. As for in the USA, I think I've made my case for wanting them to do one in the Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale area more than enough on this site. This past winter our lowest high temperature was 52 degrees. Great filming weather. Like SF, we have enough stuff to do party wise or for a serious season. They could go either way easily enough.

I like the idea of Phoenix; however, I don’t think it would be the best fit for a serious season. The only reason I fill this way if because Phoenix has amazing weather and offers the show the ability to have the house in a little more remote area very much like Hawaii. And if you remember, Hawaii’s season featured a lot of nudity and people that were extremely comfortable with their bodies. If BMP were smart, they would cast 8 beautiful people who were comfortable walking around the house and the grounds of the house in the buff. Phoenix is one of the ONLY American cities where they could get by with casting people like that. I don’t think RW will make it to Season 30 either. Given that RW20 and 21 were in LA and NYC, I think it is possible to see RW24 and RW25 both return to locations the show has been. I know Jon Murray regards the San Fran season as one of his favorites, and I have a feeling he will want to return there one more time before the show ends. At least, that is what I hope as that is the perfect way to potentially end the show.

[QUOTE=CannotTellU;165617]I like the idea of Phoenix; however, I don’t think it would be the best fit for a serious season. The only reason I fill this way if because Phoenix has amazing weather and offers the show the ability to have the house in a little more remote area very much like Hawaii. And if you remember, Hawaii’s season featured a lot of nudity and people that were extremely comfortable with their bodies. If BMP were smart, they would cast 8 beautiful people who were comfortable walking around the house and the grounds of the house in the buff. Phoenix is one of the ONLY American cities where they could get by with casting people like that. [/QUOTE] I can assure you, that while that kind of compound could exist, it would not since there is not that remote a place without being outside the 50 square miles of the metro area. Having high walls, being on the south side of a mountain, would go a long way towards it, I still don't think it would happen. Phoenix is a great flying town. Both helicopters and airplanes do flyover the city at regular intervals and it would only take one newschopper to decide to get a good look at the house before it would end that idea. As far as a serious season, trust me Phoenix is a political hotbed right now. We not only have a corrupt County Attorney running for Attorney General. We have Sheriff Joe (and having the kids end up on his highlight reel would not necessarily help the show). Plus, there are upcoming elections on the state & national level, immigration, gun safety laws, and the stiffest DUI laws in the country. There is also a tremendous Latino and Native American population. A slowly building Chinese population and I won't even get into how many sports teams call the Phoenix area home. If it happens to film during Spring Training, then some of the cast may get to meet their fav players. (Heaven forbid the Red Sox moved to the Cactus League, Bacchus would be flying out here weekly to attend games.) Trust me, a serious season can be done working in the government, one of the sports teams, even a transfer to ASU can be looked at. The Valley of Sun is awaiting! ... Need I talk about the half dozen casinos on reservations just outside city limits? I live within 5 miles of two of them and the one closest to south Scottsdale is less than a 10 minute drive from ASU.

I really don't think that this is the end of the real world...I think that as long as 24, 25, and 26 go smoothly with ratings the show will continue to go on. Even if they ended it, I guarantee you that one day it will come back. Maybe not in the same exact form like how they did with Real World but the same kind of people who said real world was gonna end after season 5 or season 13 or 20 are the same kind of people saying its gonna end now. I don't believe its time yet.