I kinda like it, but then there is that hugeee gap where there is nothing.
I liked Hollywood so much because it finally showed some sort of maturity or people who wanted to change!
[quote=Dartagnan;99913]I kinda like it, but then there is that hugeee gap where there is nothing.
I liked Hollywood so much because it finally showed some sort of maturity or people who wanted to change![/quote]
Brianna and Joey seemed to be the only people who wanted to change. They made that season for me, I would never have watched it if it wasn't for either of them.
I think its funny that Brianna probably had the most problems and she was the one who seemed the most mature and grew the most during the season.
TJ, change sometimes only happen in people who need it. Brianna is just amazing and that season made me fall in love with her.
I really like Sarah and Joey as well.
[quote=Dartagnan;99917]TJ, change sometimes only happen in people who need it. Brianna is just amazing and that season made me fall in love with her.
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She was not the only one who needed to change. And neither was Joey. I agree though, Brianna is amazing.
A lot of the cast members change after the show airs. They see themselves and know certain things they do isn't right. It is great when people change during the show!
[quote=Dartagnan;99921]I'm not saying she was the only one, but maybe she needed it more, or wanted the change. Regardless, she's a great person![/quote]
I know, I can't wait to see her on the ruins. :)
I don't think that Kimberly knew that she needed to change. I didn't like people calling her racist because she wasn't. I know many peolple like her that are from the south and just ignorant. I think she changed without even knowing she had. Unfortunetly, it doesn't seem that Sarah changed. I still like her, though
I don't think Kim changed. I don't think she needed it in the first place. It was her edit. Sarah was amazing too. I think the only reason the season bothers me is for He Who Shall Not Be Named, and Will.
Doesn't matter if it was her edit or not, the words still came out of her mouth. I do like Kim, I just didn't like her on Hollywood.
I wasn't really a fan of the cast but the season was great.
The people who usually need to change the most, and be open minded are usually the people who don't. Occasionally you will get a cast member here and there that will change and know they have to, but for the most part if they are set in there ways, they wont change. In my opinon
Kim was amazing, she may have said things, but seriously, in the heat of the moment, anything can be said.
I think that the season was just great overall.
Hollywood was a good season IMO. It was the first season that I actually watched every episode (since San Diego, in fact).
I agree with whoever it was that said they didn't like Kim on Hollywood, but like her now. That's how I feel as well.
Kim and Sarah constantly taunted Brianna, and looked down on her. It wasn't just that one time. And I hope your not trying to imply that Brianna is racist either, she had a white boyfriend.
Nobody was using the race card. That whole **** with Brianna went on throughout the whole season, not just one night.
I would never imply that Brianna was a racist. I think that she was in the heat of the moment, just like Kim. I was just saying that if Kim got bashed then it wasn't fair that Bri got hardly anything for what she said.
[quote=salt&vinegar;99991]I would never imply that Brianna was a racist. I think that she was in the heat of the moment, just like Kim. I was just saying that if Kim got bashed then it wasn't fair that Bri got hardly anything for what she said.[/quote]
Right but Kim and Sarah ragged on her the whole entire season, not just once.
TJ, we are referring to the situation with the race comments, not all the other incidents between Brianna and Kim/Sarah. I never implied Bri is a racist, because that is in no way true, I am saying a lot of people try to twist it as though that situation was all Kim's fault and Brianna said nothing back. And that is true. People play the race card in that situation.
Either way, I think those girls made that season so enjoyable for me and one of my faves! Oh, and Nick and Joey.
"White b****" isn't all that racist. She's white? Yes. Was she being a ***** to Bri? Yes. It isn't racist to call someone white if they are white, or ***** if they're being a *****. But it is racist to say those things together? To call someone ghetto just because they're black is racist. Granted, maybe she is ghetto, I can't remember, I didn't really watch that season. But to say blackville and stuff like that is racist. If Bri said "Imma beat that wonderbread's ***** ***" then it'd be racist.
[quote=faceless;99998]"white b****" isn't all that racist. She's white? Yes. Was she being a ***** to bri? Yes. It isn't racist to call someone white if they are white, or ***** if they're being a *****. But it is racist to say those things together? To call someone ghetto just because they're black is racist. Granted, maybe she is ghetto, i can't remember, i didn't really watch that season. But to say blackville and stuff like that is racist. If bri said "imma beat that wonderbread's ***** ***" then it'd be racist.[/quote]
agreed.
[quote=Dartagnan;99996]TJ, we are referring to the situation with the race comments, not all the other incidents between Brianna and Kim/Sarah. I never implied Bri is a racist, because that is in no way true, I am saying a lot of people try to twist it as though that situation was all Kim's fault and Brianna said nothing back. And that is true. People play the race card in that situation.
Either way, I think those girls made that season so enjoyable for me and one of my faves! Oh, and Nick and Joey.[/quote]
And I'm saying that it would be different if Kim said stuff in the heat of the moment once, but it was like that all season. Kim was at fault, more than Brianna.
In my opinion, if you are soo angered at the fact someone would call you ghetto, why would you bring race into it yourself? Let's be honest, Kim's comments weren't great, but Bri retaliating by saying the "white" part was not needed. And that's the truth honestly, just because someone is white, doesn't give someone else the right to use it in that way. TJ, she was never at her for race, ever! She was at her for dressing a certain way, and being a stripper, but not once did she say racist things throughout the season. Come on now.
[quote=Dartagnan;100007]In my opinion, if you are soo angered at the fact someone would call you ghetto, why would you bring race into it yourself? Let's be honest, Kim's comments weren't great, but Bri retaliating by saying the "white" part was not needed. And that's the truth honestly, just because someone is white, doesn't give someone else the right to use it in that way.[/quote]
Right but Bri's comments weren't racist. Either way, I did not enjoy Kim or Sarah on Hollywood.
Back to the subject:
So right now, on the scale, Cancun would fall above Denver, Sydney, Paris and Austin, but not above anything else. Hopefully future episodes will change my mind.
[quote=Dartagnan;100023]Yeah, Cancun is ******* me off, except for Ayiiia and Bronne! Oh and Derek and Jasmine, I love them![/quote]
Idk whats wrong, I like cast. I just don't like the season.
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