[quote=trees12;86943]The vets get a flat rate of 7,500 whether they last one episode or more.[/quote]
I think their flat rate is more in the neighborhood of $9000.
[quote=dplayer18;86998]My list:
1. Wes
2. Evan
3. Derrick
4. Darrel
5. Syrus
6. Kenny
7. Johnny[/quote]
I like this list much better, but Wes has never won any challenges where as Evan pretty much won most on the Duel, with CT coming along in 2nd. Same as FM. Wes is better one on one but he doesn't do as well in missions as everyone else. I rate Evan a better competitor than Wes but I agree with everything else.
[quote=jones10389;86993]Very true but Danny is not the good of a compeitor. Cohutta beating Wes i would have to say is 1 of the biggest upset's in a Guys elimanation round ever i can't think of any that would top that Wes is a challenge legend.[/quote]
Challenge legend? I agree Wes is the man but he's been in two challenges. I wouldn't say he's a legend.
I agree with tj. He played a great game in Duel 1 but I don't think that would label him as a legend. I think it's kinda hard to earn the title of being a legend. Even if I put aside how much I like Derrick, G2 put him on the map of being a legend. Even because of how good CT is as a competitor, he isn't a legend for that, I think he's more of a legend for fighting. Coral, is a legend for her mouth, Beth would be a legend for being the outcast, Mike is a legend... I don't know why though because he's been out classed as a competitor by many people, Veronica, for the same reason as Coral. Even my second favorite guy, Abram, I don't think would be considered a legend. This whole thing about "I don't think anyone can beat Wes." Is total BS. Just like what I've said about Landon in another thread, Wes is not invincible, and he is no Superman, he CAN be beat, just like everyone. And to jones, weight isn't everything. Derrick went against big Syrus, Brad, Ace, Davis, Adam, Abram, Johnny, who all have at least 20 lbs on him, and he won. When he went up against Wes, although having lost, I think he did a very good job. If they were playing just a regular wrestling one like Beach Brawl from G2, and not have to worry about a pole, I think Derrick would have won. Anyways, I'm not against the Wes love, but I don't like the Wes worship.
Adam did beat Danny but that was due to him being much faster than Danny not because he physically overpowered him. Chances are slim that Cohutta beat Wes in a physical challenge. I have a feeling that it was a puzzle and most of the was helping Cohutta. Similar to how Ryan beat Derek in a puzzle in the Gauntlet 3 because the veterans were helping him.
[quote=ajax10;87011]Adam did beat Danny but that was due to him being much faster than Danny not because he physically overpowered him. Chances are slim that Cohutta beat Wes in a physical challenge. I have a feeling that it was a puzzle and most of the was helping Cohutta. Similar to how Ryan beat Derek in a puzzle in the Gauntlet 3 because the veterans were helping him.[/quote]
Danny also lost to Davis. Danny is just not that great, sorry.
[quote=tjhallow;87013]Danny also lost to Davis. Danny is just not that great, sorry.[/quote]
Danny is a below average player in his best days no question about that but on a physical challenge he would have been more than able to overpower Adam.
[quote=faceless;87005]I agree with tj. He played a great game in Duel 1 but I don't think that would label him as a legend. I think it's kinda hard to earn the title of being a legend. Even if I put aside how much I like Derrick, G2 put him on the map of being a legend. Even because of how good CT is as a competitor, he isn't a legend for that, I think he's more of a legend for fighting. Coral, is a legend for her mouth, Beth would be a legend for being the outcast, Mike is a legend... I don't know why though because he's been out classed as a competitor by many people, Veronica, for the same reason as Coral. Even my second favorite guy, Abram, I don't think would be considered a legend. This whole thing about "I don't think anyone can beat Wes." Is total BS. Just like what I've said about Landon in another thread, Wes is not invincible, and he is no Superman, he CAN be beat, just like everyone. And to jones, weight isn't everything. Derrick went against big Syrus, Brad, Ace, Davis, Adam, Abram, Johnny, who all have at least 20 lbs on him, and he won. When he went up against Wes, although having lost, I think he did a very good job. If they were playing just a regular wrestling one like Beach Brawl from G2, and not have to worry about a pole, I think Derrick would have won. Anyways, I'm not against the Wes love, but I don't like the Wes worship.[/quote]
Derrick sticks out in my mind as a legend, lol.
Has anything came out yet about the Brad/Darrel fight? How it happened or what went down? I follow this site just about everyday but with 464 pages its very easy to miss something.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;87000]I like this list much better, but Wes has never won any challenges where as Evan pretty much won most on the Duel, with CT coming along in 2nd. Same as FM. Wes is better one on one but he doesn't do as well in missions as everyone else. I rate Evan a better competitor than Wes but I agree with everything else.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I couldn't really decide between Wes and Evan. I like Evan better than Wes, but I just put Wes up there. I do think Evan would beat him in an elimination.
[QUOTE=Paoluccio;87034]Has anything came out yet about the Brad/Darrel fight? How it happened or what went down? I follow this site just about everyday but with 464 pages its very easy to miss something.[/QUOTE]
It's not clear if it was indeed a fight. It could have been a faceoff that ended in double disqualification.
[quote=faceless;87005]I agree with tj. He played a great game in Duel 1 but I don't think that would label him as a legend. I think it's kinda hard to earn the title of being a legend. Even if I put aside how much I like Derrick, G2 put him on the map of being a legend. Even because of how good CT is as a competitor, he isn't a legend for that, I think he's more of a legend for fighting. Coral, is a legend for her mouth, Beth would be a legend for being the outcast, Mike is a legend... I don't know why though because he's been out classed as a competitor by many people, Veronica, for the same reason as Coral. Even my second favorite guy, Abram, I don't think would be considered a legend. This whole thing about "I don't think anyone can beat Wes." Is total BS. Just like what I've said about Landon in another thread, Wes is not invincible, and he is no Superman, he CAN be beat, just like everyone. And to jones, weight isn't everything. Derrick went against big Syrus, Brad, Ace, Davis, Adam, Abram, Johnny, who all have at least 20 lbs on him, and he won. When he went up against Wes, although having lost, I think he did a very good job. If they were playing just a regular wrestling one like Beach Brawl from G2, and not have to worry about a pole, I think Derrick would have won. Anyways, I'm not against the Wes love, but I don't like the Wes worship.[/quote]
I don't think Wes is that great to be honest. It took him way longer to beat Derrick in Pole Wrestle than it took Brad to beat Eric and Derrick was much smaller and weaker than Wes. The only missions he really did well in were the swimming ones right at the end of the season, he was mediocre at everything else.
If you ask me, it was quite evident on the first Duel that Wes himself knew that both CT and Evan would destroy him in a Duel; especially CT, he seemed to be very afraid of potentially facing him. He put all this work into getting a scheme together to get Eric to call out CT, but when that didn't work when Eric picked Brad and was eliminated, he turned to Evan to be the guy to take CT out for him instead.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;87046]No Dplayer, it was a fight. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh I wasn't sure. Cause one day I read V said it could be a faceoff. But thanks for clearing that up. I am looking forward to this :).
I agree with Wes not being as great as some people think he is. It was very obvious he was scared of C.T.
Anyways I cant wait for this challenge to air. I don't have high hopes for the RW Cancun,I may end up liking it, but from the previews im not excited about it. I really wish they would go back to the challenge format where the teams had bank accounts.
[quote=Rambo;87043]I don't think Wes is that great to be honest. It took him way longer to beat Derrick in Pole Wrestle than it took Brad to beat Eric and Derrick was much smaller and weaker than Wes. The only missions he really did well in were the swimming ones right at the end of the season, he was mediocre at everything else.
If you ask me, it was quite evident on the first Duel that Wes himself knew that both CT and Evan would destroy him in a Duel; especially CT, he seemed to be very afraid of potentially facing him. He put all this work into getting a scheme together to get Eric to call out CT, but when that didn't work when Eric picked Brad and was eliminated, he turned to Evan to be the guy to take CT out for him instead.[/quote]
While Derrick is short and "small", he is crazy good. So much fire and passion he has that size has really not much to do with it. Syrus in a wrestling contest (GII)? Anyway, I have to agree that Wes saw Evan/CT as a threat and knew the liklihood of both competitors taking him out in a duel on Duel 1. He played the game perfectly, and both were disposed of. The same can be said for Evan on Duel II not wanting to face Landon. He played the game the best he could and he is 100,000 richer for it.
I think Evan is stronger than Wes though, and I like Wes a tad more than the Ev-meister. (Sorry, I am watching American Pie and I just had to.)
I know this is very similar to imaadiva's post, but I just listed the possibilities of who beat who.
[B]Bold =[/B] Elimination Winner
[I]Italics = [/I]Something I think will happen in the same episode
Episode 1:
1)Chet vs [B]Wes[/B]
2)Diem vs [B]Tonya[/B]
[I]Shauvon's injury[/I]
Episode 2:
3)Nick vs [B]Wes[/B]
4)[B]Kelly Anne[/B] vs Evelyn
Episode 3:
5)Adam vs. [B]? (derrick, evan, johnny, kenny, syrus, darrell, wes)[/B]
6)Brianna/Tonya vs [B]? (Susie, Katie, Ibis, Johanna)[/B]
[I]Tonya/Brianna quit/kicked off??? (not sure on this)[/I]
Episode 4:
7)Danny vs [B]? (derrick, evan, johnny, kenny, syrus, darrell, wes)[/B]
8)[B]Sarah[/B] vs Katie
Episode 5:
9)[B]Cohutta[/B] vs Wes
10) Ibis vs [B]? (Casey, kim, kellyanne, sarah)[/B]
Episode 6:
11) [B]? (brad, cohutta, dunbar)[/B] vs Syrus
12) [B]Kelly Anne[/B] vs Veronica
Episode 7:
13) Cohutta vs [B]? (derrick, evan, johnny, kenny, darrell)[/B]
14) [B]? (casey, kelly anne, kim, sarah)[/B] vs Johanna
Episode 8:
15) [B]? (Brad, Dunbar)[/B] vs Darrell
15)Kim vs [B]Susie[/B]
[I]Brad/Darrell fight[/I]
Episode 9:
16)Dunbar vs [B]? (Derrick, evan, johnny, kenny)[/B]
17)[B]Susie[/B] vs Casey
Episode 10:
Final Challenge.
Concering Brad and Darrell's fight/elimination. There is a picture of Darrell going into a faceoff, but who he went against isn't in that picture. Which still leaves Dunbar as a possible opponent for Darrell. Two things I think may have happened:
1) Darrell may have gone against Dunbar, Dunbar beat him and then the fight between Brad and Darrell happened.
2) Darrell went against Brad, things ended up getting really physical and they were both sent home.
Feel free to correct any of this if I messed up.
I wonder if both Kelly Anne and Wes were sent into whatever elimination round more than any other competitor. It would be interesting if this speculation had some sort of truth to it..
[quote=tjhallow;87053]Maybe Brad and Darrell's fight had nothing to do with an elimination...maybe somebody stirred up some trouble...[/quote]
That's very possible, and they're both hot heads. In Inferno 2 , Brad and Mike got into it, then Darrell and Abram also. There was aslo a little tension between Darrell and Landon on Inferno 2.
[quote=tjhallow;87053]Maybe Brad and Darrell's fight had nothing to do with an elimination...maybe somebody stirred up some trouble...[/quote]
Exactly. I know it's a long shot but I'm thinking maybe there was some tension between Brad and Darrell. Then Darrell lost to Dunbar, thought "Hey I'm leaving anyway" and threw a punch. I haven't watched all of the challenges Darrell is on though, so I don't really know much about him or how he is.
[quote=cjslife;87058]Exactly. I know it's a long shot but I'm thinking maybe there was some tension between Brad and Darrell. Then Darrell lost to Dunbar, thought "Hey I'm leaving anyway" and threw a punch. I haven't watched all of the challenges Darrell is on though, so I don't really know much about him or how he is.[/quote]
Who knows...:).
With 18 eliminations, that leaves room for what should've been 10 people in the final challenge. However, there's only 7 (4 guys, 3 girls).
I think that pretty much guarantees either Brad or Darrell (if not both) were in the 15th Face-Off when they got kicked off. One of them counted as an elimination, and the other was kicked off. Maybe they got in a fight after one of them won, or maybe they fought before the Face-Off but after they were sent in, thus cancelling it. That explains 4 men instead of 5 in the finals.
It's known that Shauvon quit/left due to injuries. Either Brianna or Tonya had to have quit or gotten kicked off. The other was eliminated in the 6th Face-Off.
Otherwise, there'd be 10 people in the finals.
I don't think Wes is overrated i believe he proved himself on Fresh Meat and Duel 1 as a strong compeitor. I do though have to agree that i think Wes was scared of CT on Duel 1 but let's be honest would'nt anybody CT is a monster
Im really surprised that Darrell got into a fight he usually is quiet minds his bussiness dosen't get caught up in the drama and that's usually why he wins but Real World San Diego,Inferno 2 Brad can come out at anytime and i guess him and Darrell got into it weather it was before a elimanation round after or maybe just back at the house all i do know is the fight will get ugly o wudn't it be funny if TJ had to break it up.
[QUOTE=jones10389;87087]Im surprised King Johnny let Susie make it to the end he had it out for her and cara on Inferno3.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps it was the other way around. As long as you're speculating, don't leave anything out.
[quote=V1man;87089]Perhaps it was the other way around. As long as you're speculating, don't leave anything out.[/quote]
I so hope that is true. It'd be so funny if Susie made Johnny sweat and cry.
That be pretty funny if Susie made Johnny sweat. Since it looks like each player has there own bank account when a player is elimanted do they get to leave with the money in there bank account?
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