The Duel 2: Episode 9 - Discussion

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[QUOTE=Debut Album;80452]Everybody has to go in? Tell that to Mark. [B]Tori was wrong in that whole thing. How could she possibly think that talking about those things in that type of enviorment would be a good idea? She basically Humiliated Brad.[/B] And as far as the spelling challenge....Some people aren't good at spelling doesn't make them dumb and or uneducated.(not saying that you or anyone else called them that just saying). And that whole Tori/Aneesa thing was just lame. [B]That is all.[/B][/QUOTE] We disagree. Brad does too. He will tell you why during the Reunion show. "That is all?" Again? I no longer believe you. There is always more from you in spite of my vain hope that you are telling the truth... (i.e., it's annoying--at least to me)
[quote=molds13;80445]I'm just gonna throw this out there, but for those of you who are throwing around "I hate _____", hate is a pretty strong word. I'm sure you don't actually HATE them. People HATE Adolf Hitler. They don't HATE people that participate in a reality television show. Check the difference.[/quote] You're right. I shouldn't have said I hated Rachel and Aneesa, but I definitely dislike them ;).
If that is any inclination of a tag team on the reunion, I might as well not watch. I get that every relationship has problems, but to devote 50 minutes of it about nonsense, and then get ****** at people who are commenting on the parade of blatant nonsense seems a bit harsh. All a matter of opinion. Debut, I tend to share similar views with you about certain cast members and storylines. Our views are usually the minority, so verbalizing them is like walking on eggshells. Nonetheless, I have fun doing so. There is nothing better than a Vevmo Debate. I am happy Evan won the challenge! Spelling Bee Champ ;)
It was good to see that Evan did use his intelligence (well, it's more like I assume he has a nice level of intelligence being a Cornell student) in a challenge. I say that because I wondered why we didn't see more of his smarts in past challenges. Not just in missions, but just in general in playing the game. But this time there was a specific mission for it, and it was nice to see.
[quote=molds13;80445]As for a spelling bee challenge, I spelled vegetable wrong in the 2nd grade to finish runner-up, so I don't know if words like "svelte" could be spelled by a fair majority of people. I thought it was a great challenge to average out the physical challenges that are normally thrown out. Then again, I'm a puzzle kind of girl, so I love seeing that kind of stuff.[/quote] I am glad the challenge required the participants to actually use their brains for a change. Even though most of the words were fairly easy, I do hope TJ enunciated a bit better than what was shown on television. He does not seem particularly articulate, and a lot of the words used had homophones (exercise/exorcise or throne/thrown). It wouldn't have been a very fair challenge if the competitors had to guess which spelling of the word the producers/judges/whoever wanted them to use.
[QUOTE=Zereaux;80467]I am glad the challenge required the participants to actually use their brains for a change. Even though most of the words were fairly easy, I do hope TJ enunciated a bit better than what was shown on television. He does not seem particularly articulate, and a lot of the words used had homophones (exercise/exorcise or throne/thrown). It wouldn't have been a very fair challenge if the competitors had to guess which spelling of the word the producers/judges/whoever wanted them to use.[/QUOTE] Like he would have known how to spell them...let's be serious here...
[quote=molds13;80470]Like he would have known how to spell them...let's be serious here...[/quote] I think TJ can spell "Killed it", and BMX. Oh wait..
[QUOTE=LCbaby;80472]I think TJ can spell "Killed it", and BMX. Oh wait..[/QUOTE] KIL-duh IT ? The funniest thing I've ever seen was TJ in the MTV studio attempting to read the teleprompter while two young women from his management company's PR office were standing in front of me. They tried to put a brave face on it, but one said to the other, "If this ever gets out, we are so fired."
[quote=V1man;80475]KIL-duh IT ? The funniest thing I've ever seen was TJ in the MTV studio attempting to read the teleprompter while two young women from his management company's PR office were standing in front of me. They tried to put a brave face on it, but one said to the other, "If this ever gets out, we are so fired."[/quote] Hahaha. A few days ago I watched his first season hosting, 11 I think it was - Gauntlet II. It is hysterical.
I've always wondered why they don't get more of a variety of hosts.
[quote=V1man;80456]We disagree. Brad does too. He will tell you why during the Reunion show. "That is all?" Again? I no longer believe you. There is always more from you in spite of my vain hope that you are telling the truth... (i.e., it's annoying--at least to me)[/quote] Well that's good. I think that's one of the ONLY reasons I'll watch the Reunion. And you know what? You're right that Isn't all. Maybe I should start saying that is all....For now. Would that be better? Oh and it's HOPE not home.
I really liked this episode. I really felt for Tori and Brad, going through all of that on tv couldn't have been easy. I really enjoyed the spelling challenge. It was a bit like an old school challenge and I enjoyed that greatly.
[quote=Buck05;80479]I've always wondered why they don't get more of a variety of hosts.[/quote] I will take that job in a second!!
[quote=LCbaby;80472]I think TJ can spell "Killed it", and [B]BMX. Oh wait..[/B][/quote]LOL!
God curse the editors for giving away who wins in the preview for next week. Do they not watch these before they air them? Anyways. I thought the episode was pretty good. As for girls i'm rooting for Brittani. I pretty much like and respect all the guys remaining.. well minus Evan :D
Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way, but I don't see why Tori's remark was a big deal, other than the fact that Aneesa made it a big deal. She was right, wasn't she? It wasn't an insult or an attack; it was an accurate comment about gameplay. I think the fact that Aneesa perceived it to be so disrespectful says more about Aneesa than it does about Tori. The fact that Aneesa of all people was saying Tori didn't shake her hand and it was unsportsmanlike--that would have perhaps been a nice place for the editors to insert a flashback of Aneesa's reaction when she was called into the duel by Shauvon. Honestly, it seems like much ado about nothing, and I think part of it must be Aneesa trying to get herself into a place of anger because she thinks that will help her in the duel. Or I hope so, anyway. Obviously, I'm only working from dailies and the episodes, but from what I've seen, Tori was one of the few people to defend Aneesa and point out that her situation was hard during the Jenn mess when a lot of people seemed to be against her, and it doesn't look like Aneesa offered Tori the same courtesy when Tori was having an issue. But it might have been nice for Aneesa to consider Tori as a person who had given her support on a non-game related issue before declaring her to be such a ***** because of a few comments, some of which were clearly misunderstood. Finally, on an unrelated note, I just love Tori's clothes. Okay, I'll just be over here in my Tori support corner. Maybe I'll sew a little flag or something.
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[quote=Debut Album;80452]Everybody has to go in? Tell that to Mark. [/quote] Yeah but Mark has won a couple of challenges, unlike Tori. If Mark threw a hissy fit when he got called in ONCE, I would say the same thing too. If they were left at the bottom, they would have all called Aneesa in anyways.
[quote=tjhallow;80505]Yeah but Mark has won a couple of challenges, unlike Tori. If Mark threw a hissy fit when he got called in ONCE, I would say the same thing too. If they were left at the bottom, they would have all called Aneesa in anyways.[/quote] Yeah but Mark has never went in the Duel.
At the begining of the episode I was really getting annoyed at Tori..(probably cause I love Brad so much), but towards the end you kind of see that she is completely overwhelmed by the whole situation over there. To me Tori has never been an "insider" to all the planning... She just went in and depended on her stregnth to get her by. Now she had all the stress of the "playing the game" nonsense, and it was to much for her. She's a good southern girl, and I really like and respect that about her. It makes me laugh how opposite they are from each other and yet they reallly really fit well together. Now Anneesa on the other hand seems to be about the drama and only the drama. So what if Tori was excited about the Elevator, would Aneesa not be excited if she pulled "push over"? "Aneesa would you like a hug?" OMG I thought I was gonna fall out of my chair (well bed lol) from laughter. I love that spunk in Tori, she really hasnt shown it all show. On a side note anyone else trying really hard not to misspell anything?lol
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[quote=Debut Album;80507]Yeah but Mark has never went in the Duel.[/quote] I know, so what are you getting at?
[QUOTE]Yeah but Mark has won a couple of challenges, unlike Tori. If Mark threw a hissy fit when he got called in ONCE, I would say the same thing too.[/QUOTE] When did Tori throw a hissy fit? She made a remark (which, incidentally, was not behind anyone's back, and Aneesa should possibly check her definition of what that statement means), and skipped over to Aneesa. I don't think she was upset to go in; she was just commenting (correctly!) about why she was going in. If people want to give Tori a hard time, I think they can find plenty of things in the episode that she actually did. I don't think a hissy fit at being called in was one of them. Just my opinion.
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[quote=MrsPlumBean;80510]When did Tori throw a hissy fit? She made a remark (which, incidentally, was not behind anyone's back, and Aneesa should possibly check her definition of what that statement means), and skipped over to Aneesa. I don't think she was upset to go in; she was just commenting (correctly!) about why she was going in. If people want to give Tori a hard time, I think they can find plenty of things in the episode that she actually did. I don't think a hissy fit at being called in was one of them. Just my opinion.[/quote] I never said "Tori threw a hissy fit". They have all made a big deal about going into the Duel. Evan has done it, Aneesa has done it to (to Shauvon), and even Tori had a little poor sportsmanship. IMO, If you get called in, man up, and accept it instead of making snarky comments and that goes to anyone.
[QUOTE=MrsPlumBean;80502] Okay, I'll just be over here in my Tori support corner. Maybe I'll sew a little flag or something.[/QUOTE] MPB, that is just not going to be enough. You know here you have to say "Team Tori" at the end of all of your posts :D
[quote=MrsPlumBean;80502]Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way, but I don't see why Tori's remark was a big deal, other than the fact that Aneesa made it a big deal. She was right, wasn't she? It wasn't an insult or an attack; it was an accurate comment about gameplay. I think the fact that Aneesa perceived it to be so disrespectful says more about Aneesa than it does about Tori. The fact that Aneesa of all people was saying Tori didn't shake her hand and it was unsportsmanlike--that would have perhaps been a nice place for the editors to insert a flashback of Aneesa's reaction when she was called into the duel by Shauvon. Honestly, it seems like much ado about nothing, and I think part of it must be Aneesa trying to get herself into a place of anger because she thinks that will help her in the duel. Or I hope so, anyway. Obviously, I'm only working from dailies and the episodes, but from what I've seen, Tori was one of the few people to defend Aneesa and point out that her situation was hard during the Jenn mess when a lot of people seemed to be against her, and it doesn't look like Aneesa offered Tori the same courtesy when Tori was having an issue. But it might have been nice for Aneesa to consider Tori as a person who had given her support on a non-game related issue before declaring her to be such a ***** because of a few comments, some of which were clearly misunderstood. Finally, on an unrelated note, I just love Tori's clothes. Okay, I'll just be over here in my Tori support corner. Maybe I'll sew a little flag or something.[/quote] I love Tori but it was clear that she was SCARED to go into the duel against Aneesa, if you looked at her BODY LANGUAGE it was clear. Also Aneesa was Right Tori was jumping up and down because she felt like she had this in the bag....KEEP IT REAL. I think Tori is a good player but NOT on this show. Aneesa was RIGHT, EVERYBODY has been in that duel BUT TORI, and than Tori jumps up and down like a 2 year old??? If you look at the dailies from a while back where Paula, Diem, and Tori were talking about wild cards its Clear that Nobody wantedto go up against Aneessa in a duel. What is more intersting is Tori thought Aneesa would NOT call her out (kind of like diem thinking nobody will call her out) Tori has a big ego and I'm tired of people giving her a pass, yes she is a sweet girl but under Pressure she is a MESS. Pound for Pound Rachel is the HBIC there. Love her or hate her, unlike Paula and Johanna on the island, Rachel backs up her talking and is playing the game better than anybody in that house. Tori has been dissapointing, I know she is strong but she got EXPOSE in the one mission where she ran out of gas QUICK. I don't care what anybody has to say, Aneesa is a G...AND TORI was SHOOK...Look at her BODY Language, and that is a FACT. You can't hide from BODY LANGUAGE.
[quote]I love Tori but it was clear that she was SCARED to go into the duel against Aneesa, if you looked at her BODY LANGUAGE it was clear. Also Aneesa was Right Tori was jumping up and down because she felt like she had this in the bag....KEEP IT REAL.[/quote]I think we're going to have to agree to disagree about her body language. Or BODY LANGUAGE, as it were. I don't see it, and I also don't think that body language is so objective that anyone can draw a conclusion from it and be certain of being correct. And this is coming from someone who has professional training in the area. I am also going to choose to accept Tori's own statement about why she was happy about that duel rather than draw my own conclusions, though obviously everyone is free to have their own interpretation. However, since Tori's version makes sense, I don't think choosing to believe her is in any way not "keeping it real." [QUOTE]MPB, that is just not going to be enough. You know here you have to say "Team Tori" at the end of all of your posts :D[/QUOTE] I know, I know. Team Tori! Now I need some kind of corporate logo...
[QUOTE=HNIC1;80514]I don't care what nobody say, Aneesa is a G...AND TORI was SHOOK...Look at her BODY Language, and that is a FACT. You can't hide from BODY LANGUAGE.[/QUOTE] I'm certainly glad you "don't care what nobody say", because I'm sure there are many differing opinions here regarding Aneesa. "BODY Language" doesn't really tell you everything all of the time. In fact, many people use different "BODY LANGUAGE" to convey a different opinion than the one they are actually feeling.
[QUOTE=HNIC1;80514]I love Tori but it was clear that she was SCARED to go into the duel against Aneesa, if you looked at her BODY LANGUAGE it was clear. Also Aneesa was Right Tori was jumping up and down because she felt like she had this in the bag....KEEP IT REAL. I think Tori is a good player but NOT on this show. Aneesa was RIGHT, EVERYBODY has been in that duel BUT TORI, and than Tori jumps up and down like a 2 year old??? If you look at the dailies from a while back where Paula, Diem, and Tori were talking about wild cards its Clear that Nobody wantedto go up against Aneessa in a duel. What is more intersting is Tori thought Aneesa would NOT call her out (kind of like diem thinking nobody will call her out) Tori has a big ego and I'm tired of people giving her a pass, yes she is a sweet girl but under Pressure she is a MESS. Pound for Pound Rachel is the HBIC there. Love her or hate her, unlike Paula and Johanna on the island, Rachel backs up her talking and is playing the game better than anybody in that house. Tori has been dissapointing, I know she is strong but she got EXPOSE in the one mission where she ran out of gas QUICK. [B] I don't care what nobody say,[/B] Aneesa is a G...AND TORI was SHOOK...Look at her BODY Language, and that is a FACT. You can't hide from BODY LANGUAGE.[/QUOTE] We'll just have to disagree regarding both the content of your comment and your fractured use of grammar.
[quote=MrsPlumBean;80502]Maybe I'm not looking at this the right way, but I don't see why Tori's remark was a big deal, other than the fact that Aneesa made it a big deal. She was right, wasn't she? It wasn't an insult or an attack; it was an accurate comment about gameplay. I think the fact that Aneesa perceived it to be so disrespectful says more about Aneesa than it does about Tori. The fact that Aneesa of all people was saying Tori didn't shake her hand and it was unsportsmanlike--that would have perhaps been a nice place for the editors to insert a flashback of Aneesa's reaction when she was called into the duel by Shauvon. Honestly, it seems like much ado about nothing, and I think part of it must be Aneesa trying to get herself into a place of anger because she thinks that will help her in the duel. Or I hope so, anyway. Obviously, I'm only working from dailies and the episodes, but from what I've seen, Tori was one of the few people to defend Aneesa and point out that her situation was hard during the Jenn mess when a lot of people seemed to be against her, and it doesn't look like Aneesa offered Tori the same courtesy when Tori was having an issue. But it might have been nice for Aneesa to consider Tori as a person who had given her support on a non-game related issue before declaring her to be such a ***** because of a few comments, some of which were clearly misunderstood. Finally, on an unrelated note, I just love Tori's clothes. Okay, I'll just be over here in my Tori support corner. Maybe I'll sew a little flag or something.[/quote] We should be twins.
[quote=tjhallow;80509]I know, so what are you getting at?[/quote] That was my point. You said that EVERYONE has to go into the Duel and I was pointing out that Mark has never been in The Duel ONCE so that statement wasn't true.
Rachel has not been in a Duel either. Why is no one calling in Brittini? She only beat Brooke. Lol

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