RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins - Spoilers & Speculation

Johanna Patricia Botta: Anyone have any recommendations on where to stay in Phi Phi Island, Thailand. Going their tomorrow so please respond asap. Thanks ! Bye Bye Johanna! Hopefully Johnny, Evan or Kenny will follow her.

[quote=Bacchus;76658]I am sure we will conclusively know that after all the episodes air. ;)[/quote] Come on.. a little birdie tells me you already know!

[quote=faceless;76637]If this is the champs vs challengers, I'd be happy with either side winning. Brad winning would be nice but I like Derrick so much that if I had to settle for JEK winning to have Derrick win, I'd be okay with them winning.[/quote] That's true but Derrick has already won two. Brad is zero for six. I want Brad to win before he bows out completely.

I think the only way I would watch this season would be if the challengers won.

[quote=tjhallow;76691]That's true but Derrick has already won two. Brad is zero for six. I want Brad to win before he bows out completely.[/quote] Yeah, that's how I feel too. I just meant that I would be happy with the result as long as one of them win.

So it may not be guy/girl eliminations then. Unless there are 3 males we dont know got kicked off. It all three of them are JKE i can see Bachus not confirming it just to **** us off

It's more likely Bacchus would have purchased a full page add in the NY Times if that had happened. He would want the world to read about it at vevmo.com.

So Johanna is officially out...confirmed by Bacchus. So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.

[QUOTE=JRODR;76740] [B]So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? [/B]The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.[/QUOTE] How can we officially say anything if we don't know the format?

[quote=JRODR;76740]so johanna is officially out...confirmed by bacchus. So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.[/quote] WOW!! This is taking speculation to the next step.

[QUOTE=JRODR;76740]so johanna is officially out...confirmed by bacchus. So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.[/QUOTE] [B] No, only vevmo makes official statements.[/B] You don't, thanks very much. Your seventh post and the mods have you in their crosshairs already.

That would seem a bit weird? If the Champion guys were throwing missions (if it is Champions VS. Challengers, which most people are assuming) wouldn't they pick Susie over Johanna, because all the guys love Jo. She was part of the alliance on the Island.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;76774]That would seem a bit weird? If the Champion guys were throwing missions (if it is Champions VS. Challengers, which most people are assuming) [B]wouldn't they pick Susie over Johanna, because all the guys love Jo. She was part of the alliance on the Island[/B].[/QUOTE] So was Paula...and we see how well that turned out. When it comes down to it, people just want to win. Some don't care who gets in the way.

[quote=JRODR;76740]so johanna is officially out...confirmed by bacchus. So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.[/quote]Considering that the three "Pits" that have been confirmed have been one person who has won a challenge vs. one person who never has, and two other ambiguous clues point to a champ v. a challenger in the Pit, it would [I]seem[/I] that there would be no need to throw missions to put girls in the Pit. Of course there is always more that we don't know but based on what we have seen confirmed from Bacchus, there really isn't much reason to speculate that mission throwing would be necessary.

Oh my God... we dont even know if there are teams or individuals challenges and they are already saying that Susie is the last female standing on the champions... And how do you know that Johanna is out? :P

Bacchus posted she was out. And it says on her facebook that she is looking for places to visit in Phi Phi Thailand

[quote=JRODR;76740]so johanna is officially out...confirmed by bacchus. So can we officially say that the Champions men (if its challengers vs champions) are throwing missions so they can get rid of all the females so they can win the final mission!? The only female left is Susy and well, she is strong so I'm pretty sure they'll keep her.[/quote] I expect a major twist unbeknown to the remaining contestants at some point soon in this game. They're have been 9 known female eliminations of the 14 that we know of thus far, and with 1.5 weeks left, chances are that they'll be at least 1, if not 2 more. I also believe that the guy eliminations will equal the girl eliminations to even out the number of male and female participants for the final. With that, if this is a 2 team challenge with 7M/F each, and at least 9F gone, then there was some plan by BMP to address having more eliminations than # of team members on 1 team. Yeah, this is different. In the Gauntlet, the total number of eliminations matched the number of team members on 1 side. The Infernos usually have had 8 eliminations with 20 total members. Johanna going in over Susie with the people like Evan/Johnny/Kenny/and Derrick allegedly controlling the vote (if that's the case) is baffling enough. The trend I was seeing prior to Jo's departure was an exit plan to get rid of all the older vets (Wes, Syrus, Veronica, Tonya, Ibis, Katie) or those newbies who are distrusting of Evan/Kenny/Johnny (Evelyn, Nick, Chet, Diem, etc). I am hoiping that the pendulum has swung somewhat, and the next of our departures will be that of a Johnny or a Derrick or a Dunbar. I'd be content if Brad was sent home.

[QUOTE=Darock1713;76809] Johanna going in over Susie with the people like Evan/Johnny/Kenny/and Derrick allegedly controlling the vote (if that's the case) is baffling enough. The trend I was seeing prior to Jo's departure was an exit plan to [B]get rid of all the older vets (Wes[/B], Syrus, Veronica, Tonya, Ibis, Katie) or those newbies who are distrusting of Evan/Kenny/Johnny (Evelyn, Nick, Chet, Diem, etc). I am hoiping that the pendulum has swung somewhat, and the next of our departures will be that of a Johnny or a Derrick or a Dunbar. I'd be content if Brad was sent home.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but Wes is not an "older" vet. He's just not in their alliance.

So all my favorites are officially gone now. Well I like Cohutta but he's kind of boring. Kelly Anne I can't say I like her because there's something about her that seems off but I love her for tv purposes and I'm glad she's made it so far. I hope she tells off Evan on this challenge. That would be awesome! The Johnny fights were pretty funny though because they were both getting so over the top angry. Aww I've always loved Johanna. Am I the only one? lol. I know everyone hates her now but she seems like such a sweetheart and cool girl, I just don't like the guys she ***ociates with now. I loved her with Wes. It was probably a mission where there was a twist just before that required the remaining contestants to do something and Johanna failed or came in "dead last loser" as they called it on I Love Money. I really think though that JEK may be friends with some of the girls and like them, when it comes to the final mission they could care less about them. They just want their female friends there to help get them extra votes and then by the final mission they are disposable. Seems like Kelly Anne and Cohutta must be kicking *** huh? I think Kelly Anne will be a good competitor. They were saying on the Island "all she did was sit on sticks big deal" but I think she has that fire in her to really succeed in face offs. Because whenever she was about to get voted into something on the Island she seemed to show no fear, like "oh well whatever happens", and people getting fearful and flustered is what causes them to lose these faceoffs. And I bet Cohutta is a strong competitor too. He almost beat Derrick, but it was one stupid accident with his key breaking I believe. I don't know this Sarah girl because I didn't watch Brooklyn. Just couldn't get into it. Does she seem like a good competitor? She must be to be a newbie and make it so far.

[QUOTE=Isabella;76820] I don't know this Sarah girl because I didn't watch Brooklyn. Just couldn't get into it. Does she seem like a good competitor? She must be to be a newbie and make it so far.[/QUOTE] We have yet to see her compete, so your guess is as good as ours.

[quote=Isabella;76820]Aww I've always loved Johanna. Am I the only one? lol. I know everyone hates her now but she seems like such a sweetheart and cool girl, I just don't like the guys she associates with now.[/quote] I like Johanna! :) I think she seems sweet too, and she's beautiful.

[quote=OtherPplsDrama;76826]I like Johanna! :) I think she seems sweet too, and she's beautiful.[/quote] She is pretty, and I liked her when she dated Wes. Once they broke up and she jumped aboard the Kenny train, I axed her off my list of likes.

[quote=LCbaby;76827]She is pretty, and I liked her when she dated Wes. Once they broke up and she jumped aboard the Kenny train, I axed her off my list of likes.[/quote] The same thing happened with me i really liked her before the Island

Aww, I like Johanna.

Wait a second.. i speak a little bit of english, but what i-ve been reading is that some of the cast has been seeing arriving in USA? (thats mean they are eliminated from the game?) or the game has not even begin? if that about cast eliminated is truth can someone please tell me who are the ones who leaves the game? Thanks

Johanna is beautiful and always seems very nice, but there's something about her that makes me wonder why BMP repeatedly casts her on the challenges. She doesn't bring much drama to the shows and never seems like she's there to actually win any money.

[quote=Henry;76846]Wait a second.. i speak a little bit of english, but what i-ve been reading is that some of the cast has been seeing arriving in USA? (thats mean they are eliminated from the game?) or the game has not even begin? if that about cast eliminated is truth can someone please tell me who are th ones who leave the game? Thanks[/quote] The game started a while ago and this [URL]http://vevmo.com/f187/rw-rr-challenge-thailand-departures-spoilers-3039/[/URL] Will show you all who have left so far if you so wish to see

[QUOTE=Henry;76846]Wait a second.. i speak a little bit of english, but what i-ve been reading is that some of the cast has been seeing arriving in USA? (thats mean they are eliminated from the game?) or the game has not even begin? if that about cast eliminated is truth can someone please tell me who are the ones who leaves the game? Thanks[/QUOTE] Henry, At the top of the home page there is a departure thread that will tell you everything you need to know. :)

[quote=molds13;76856]Henry, At the top of the home page there is a departure thread that will tell you everything you need to know. :)[/quote] I already answered that...don't salt my game molds LOL Anyway I still like Johanna despite any involvement with she had on The Island or after then. She made it pretty far this time around but sadly never quite made it to the end and I would have liked her to. Though there are some stronger girls still around I think and she just fell victim.