RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins - Spoilers & Speculation

[QUOTE=Rihannalova;75549]I was talking about Ibis and Veronica, But I didn't wanna call names to start the whole "Ibis isn't weak, and Veronica is a strong player" debate all over again. I think when the show airs only we can judge who is strong and who is weak.... I guess[/QUOTE] Maybe it has nothing to do with who is weak or strong, but rather who is lucky or gets the best advice from one's team.

Yeah ! But I'm still confused to why they were ranked "weak" and that does suck because V is one of my favs. But when u look at the list and the departure list all the strong players are leaving first and the weak players are lasting longer. That doesn't seem weak to me lol. Yeah and it is interesting that Veronica, Ibis, and Tonya were all taken out... very surprising.

[QUOTE=Rihannalova;75568]Yeah ! But I'm still confused to why they were ranked "weak" and that does suck because V is one of my favs. But when u l[B]ook at the list and the departure list all the strong players are leaving first and the weak players are lasting longer. That doesn't seem weak to me lol.[/B] Yeah and it is interesting that Veronica, Ibis, and Tonya were all taken out... very surprising.[/QUOTE] The list is from a bunch of drunk RW/RR people at a recent party. Some may have been witness to things in Thailand. [B] It is a relative ranking of perceived physical strength, and not a measure of anyone's [I][U]ability to successfully play the game[/U].[/I][/B] Those are two very distinct qualities. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. The source of the list and its meaning have all been explained before, but I guess people don't read back that far in the thread.

Exactly Dartagnan and Rhiannalova if you are trying to argue that people like Casey and Johanna are not weaker than people like Evelyn and Tonya then you need to take a look at past challenges, the list was presented by someone who was in Thailand and we have already had that discussion here, and why yes Veronica and Tonya being taken out may be "surprising" its not a good surpise especially knowing that most of the people remaining are going to be doing these challenges for the next decade and the ones taken out it will most likely be their last challenge, I dont consider this an interesting or a "cool" thing. And I seriously doubt that Casey or Johanna have seen an elimination "pit" or whatever I'm sure Tonya and V were taken out by either KA, Sarah or Kim

While I would love to see four more eliminations happen (Johanna, Kenny,Johnny,Evan) I dont think there will be anymore. Fourteen people have been eliminated already and BMP could not design the challenge to have anymore than that. There are fourteen people on each team so setting up more than fourteen eliminations or "pits" would risk having a whole team be wiped out. I'm actually surprised we have even seen fourteen people be eliminated already.

[quote=GHV11;75595]While I would love to see four more eliminations happen (Johanna, Kenny,Johnny,Evan) I dont think there will be anymore. Fourteen people have been eliminated already and BMP could not design the challenge to have anymore than that. There are fourteen people on each team so setting up more than fourteen eliminations or "pits" would risk having a whole team be wiped out. I'm actually surprised we have even seen fourteen people be eliminated already.[/quote] well there are 8 women gone and 6 men gone, I would assume that there is a male out there somewhere that has been eliminated that hasnt been revealed or Tonya quit or got hurt, which has been said isnt true. So since Shauvon left due to injuries then actually 15 people will be sent home before the final challenge.

It's unlikely but possible. BMP cannot simply decide how many eliminations there will be along the way. They have to go into it with a set amount. As for the Gauntlet 2 thats a perfect example. There are sixteen people on each time and fifteen eliminations, assuring that at least one person will be left on a team if everyone else is wiped out. I have a feeling there were only 12 pit battles. Shauvon has been confirmed to leave because of medical reasons and someone else may have done the same. I don't mean to sound arrogant and think that I'm automatically right because BMP has done stranger things, I'm just basing this on past challenges.

[QUOTE=Dartagnan;75604]True, but it still if you look at the final mission on The Gauntlet 2, they need more than one person. It is almost guaranteed that not everyone will leave. Hopefully there are at least a few more elimination, because there are still some people I bet who have yet to experience one that need to.[/QUOTE] Could not agree more!

Yeah I am hoping there are some more eliminations but I'm beginning to doubt it, I think Veronica was the last one. :(

I would love it if it were Kenny and Johanna. And I was going to comment earlier on Kenny but never got around to it, some of you guys said that you actually liked Kenny because he wasnt always a jerk, well I totally lost all my respect for him on the Island when he immediatly started say really rude and harsh things to Tonya, it was quite sad actually at how much of a jerk he was to her.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;75606]Yeah I am hoping there are some more eliminations but I'm beginning to doubt it, I think Veronica was the last one. :([/QUOTE] So, pray tell, what are they all doing in Thailand between today and June 5th?

I am praying for a Johnny/Casey elimination

Down days, interview days, final mission day(s)... they all add up, too.

Hmm just regarding the one guy missing from the list, since no guy went home with Tonya, unless she or another girl was injured besides Shauvon, maybe the missing guy can be Darrell. I am only saying this because he was the only one on Bacchus's initial cast list that was spotted at the airport as if he was the only one we didn't know that would be on the show until he was seen at the airport. This leads me to believe that he doesn't have many close contacts in the RW/RR Circuit and social networking availability. Just speculation, but throwing it out there...

[QUOTE=Dartagnan;75620]No. V has already stated that there is nothing going on injury wise, or quitting. There is a reason why Tonya is on there.[/QUOTE] Did you even read my post? I said UNLESS someone was injured.

[QUOTE=jr588;75618]Hmm just regarding the one guy missing from the list, since no guy went home with Tonya, unless she or another girl was injured besides Shauvon, maybe the missing guy can be Darrell. I am only saying this because he was the only one on Bacchus's initial cast list that was spotted at the airport as if he was the only one we didn't know that would be on the show until he was seen at the airport. This leads me to believe that he doesn't have many close contacts in the RW/RR Circuit and social networking availability. Just speculation, but throwing it out there...[/QUOTE] Throwing ice water on your speculation: Darrell flew out of San Fran, which is why he was not spotted at LAX.

[quote=Dartagnan;75620]No. V has already stated that there is nothing going on injury wise, or quitting. There is a reason why Tonya is on there.[/quote] So do you think there's a guy that went home with Tonya?

So one more guy after V than another girl and one more guy. I hope Johanna goes and one of JEK.

If God loved me, Johnny and Kenny would be goners next. I am betting he doesn't. (Sarcastic joke, not meant to take seriously).

God doesn't like ugly so if JEK are doing ugly things, God will come around. Karma is a ***** ! People on these shows seem to forget that.

[QUOTE=Rihannalova;75638]So one more guy after V than another girl and one more guy. I hope Johanna goes and one of JEK.[/QUOTE] Do I have to scream "WRONG" before the message gets through? Maybe not even then with some people...