RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins - Spoilers & Speculation

[quote=V1man;75183]I don't know what you mean. Perhaps you could be more illuminating?[/quote] I can't speak for Isabella, but I would hazard a guess and assume she was referring to KellyAnne's behavior on the reunion show for The Island. She seemed to be a little under the influence.

[QUOTE=Zereaux;75238]I can't speak for Isabella, but I would hazard a guess and assume she was referring to KellyAnne's behavior on the reunion show for The Island. She seemed to be a little under the influence.[/QUOTE] Thank you, but I asked the question of Isabella.

Damn ! How many weeks have they been in Thailand. No one can determine yet which one of the 3 girls left first/last (Tonya, Veronica, Ibis) but how many episodes have been filmed so far?

I lost count of how long they been there. I thought they left like around the 4/24-4/28, *shurgs*

[QUOTE=Delancy221;75244]Damn ! How many weeks have they been in Thailand. No one can determine yet which one of the 3 girls left first/last (Tonya, Veronica, Ibis) but how many episodes have been filmed so far?[/QUOTE] Are you not, on occasion, checking the departure thread? Sometimes new things simply appear there. The number of episodes completed depends entirely on the manner in which the story editor elects to lay things out for us. There are always things that don't go as planned with complicate things. Contrary to popular belief, there is no normal formula.

I'm confused as to why no guy was sent home in between Brianna and Tonya.

That's what I was saying earlier. I think we just don't know who. Unless some "forfeited" or was "DQ'ed".

After reading and catching up with 15 pages FULL of speculation... I have ended up with a huge headache. I'm just gonna wait until it airs, and I think these are the final eliminations.

[quote=blanky667;75252]After reading and catching up with 15 pages FULL of speculation... I have ended up with a huge headache. I'm just gonna wait until it airs, and I think these are the final eliminations.[/quote] Which is really lame because I hate it when the final missions on challenges have like 900 people instead of say like 4 like The Duel.

[QUOTE=blanky667;75252]After reading and catching up with 15 pages FULL of speculation... I have ended up with a huge headache. I'm just gonna wait until it airs, and I think these are the final eliminations.[/QUOTE] I would not read one page of speculation with the expectation of finding facts. This is the latest from Bacchus' challenge departure thread: [QUOTE] 1. Chet 2. Diem 3. Shauvon 4. Nick 5. Evelyn 6. Adam 7. Brianna 8.Tonya 9. Danny 10. Katie 11. Wes 12. Ibis 13. Syrus 14. Veronica[/QUOTE]

I have no true guy crush to root for. I guess I am rooting for Dunbar now. Kelly Anne and Kim all the way! If tomorrow I visit Vevmo and see their gone too, I might just stop watching MTV all together for I am a jinx and every one of my favorites leaves and people like Kenny keep winning.

Guys Brad and Derrick are probably JUST as guilty as JEK are.

[QUOTE=MizFit2009;75257]Guys Brad and Derrick are probably JUST as guilty as JEK are.[/QUOTE] Hypothetically speaking, IF this challenge is two teams determined by past challenge wins, then how would Brad be involved? Brad would not qualify to be on the same team as Johnny, Evan and Kenny. Your logic escapes me.

[quote=MizFit2009;75257]Guys Brad and Derrick are probably JUST as guilty as JEK are.[/quote] I agree. That is why neither will become my new male favorite. While I have no problem with Brad, and at times like him, he is always mediocre to me. He is never truly outshining, isn't hilarious (that I see on television), and seems to just make friends with the right people to carry him to the end. That may or may not be a reason he still is a "Challenger" and not victorious of any prior challenge. All in all, Brad is just blah to me. Derrick, who I do like, was loosely tied with JEK alliance on The Island. I think Derrick will do what is right when it comes down to it, but getting to the end is just as important. I guess I am just sick and tired of seeing Johnny and Kenny. I must exclude Evan from this, since I enjoy his commentary, and as cheesy as it is, it makes me laugh. I have nothing good to say about Johnny or Kenny though. I pray this will be their last challenge. However, according to people on here, my opinions are overruled on JK since apparently their screen time is very popular. I just don't get it though.

[quote=LCbaby;75256]I have no true guy crush to root for. I guess I am rooting for Dunbar now. Kelly Anne and Kim all the way! If tomorrow I visit Vevmo and see their gone too, I might just stop watching MTV all together for I am a jinx and every one of my favorites leaves and people like Kenny keep winning.[/quote] I jinxed Syrus and now he's gone.

14 people gone ! Think that's a decent amount of people. No more than 15 people people have been eliminated from a challenge. My guess is one more guy and one more girl gone and than the final challenge.

Not really, 20 people left or were DQ'ed from The Duel 2.

[quote=Buck05;75250]I'm confused as to why no guy was sent home in between Brianna and Tonya.[/quote] Shauvon left do to injuries so no guy left with her. Brianna/ Adam.

[quote=V1man;75261]Hypothetically speaking, IF this challenge is two teams determined by past challenge wins, then how would Brad be involved? Brad would not qualify to be on the same team as Johnny, Evan and Kenny. Your logic escapes me.[/quote] Cause they are friends with those three. Derrick was invovled in the decsions on the Island... yet only Johnny and Kenny are hated for it. Brad is one of the biggest maniupulators in challenge history... yet he is still adored. Brad/Evan/Mark the the sceamers on The Duel 2.... yet everybody is hating only Evan. Same with Derrick on the Island. He THREW the challenge to Johnny. He is just as much of a "player" as those two were.

[quote=MizFit2009;75294]Cause they are friends with those three. Derrick was invovled in the decsions on the Island... yet only Johnny and Kenny are hated for it. [B]Brad is one of the biggest maniupulators in challenge history[/B]... yet he is still adored. Brad/Evan/Mark the the sceamers on The Duel 2.... yet everybody is hating only Evan. Same with Derrick on the Island. He THREW the challenge to Johnny. He is just as much of a "player" as those two were.[/quote] If he was such a manipulator he would of won a challenge by now.. He plays the challenge well and has friends nothing else. He is had an alliance like every1 else. He goes into elemination rounds left and right. He got screwed how many times??? How do you consider him to be the biggest manipulator??

[QUOTE=MizFit2009;75294][B]Cause they are friends with those three. Derrick was invovled in the decsions on the Island... yet only Johnny and Kenny are hated for it.[/B] Brad is one of the biggest maniupulators in challenge history... yet he is still adored. Brad/[B]Evan/Mark the the sceamers on The Duel 2.... yet everybody is hating only Evan. Same with Derrick on the Island. He THREW the challenge to Johnny. He is just as much of a "player" as those two were[/B].[/QUOTE] I question you about Brad and you obfuscate with commentary about everyone else. [QUOTE]Brad is one of the biggest maniupulators (sic) in challenge history[/QUOTE] Oh, really? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. He clearly is playing within the rules on Duel II, and from his likely position on The Pit, he would only be taking money out of his own pocket in cooperating with the others you name. Thus, your logic is clearly flawed.

So, is Dunbar finally "in" with Evan and the gang. Is his relationship with Kenny and Johnny B. from the Island helping any?

Whoever said that Derrick is tied in with JEK... of course he is. He needs to do what he needs to do to win. He is on their team is this is a team challenge. So, of course he'd work with them. And even thought I don't like JEK, Derrick is much better then them... in my opinion. He is nicer to everyone, isn't cruel and isn't a *******. I remember reading that him and Brad are masters at their craft and know when to say the right thing to the camera but still, that must mean he cares otherwise they would be like JK and be *******s. And I have always enjoyed watching Derrick ever since G2. Then I went back to watch him on I2 and Botsexes2 and enjoyed him then.

[quote=faceless;75334]Whoever said that Derrick is tied in with JEK... of course he is. He needs to do what he needs to do to win. He is on their team is this is a team challenge. So, of course he'd work with them. And even thought I don't like JEK, Derrick is much better then them... in my opinion. He is nicer to everyone, isn't cruel and isn't a *******. I remember reading that him and Brad are masters at their craft and know when to say the right thing to the camera but still, that must mean he cares otherwise they would be like JK and be *******s. And I have always enjoyed watching Derrick ever since G2. Then I went back to watch him on I2 and Botsexes2 and enjoyed him then.[/quote] Indeed. While Derrick is nice and friendly for camera, he is just as much friends and responsible (at times) as the JEK boys. He did throw the challenge so Johnny could win it - I believe he volunteered himself to go in. That left just Cohutta able to beat Johnny, and it almost happened.

I'm really sad to see Wes, Brianna, Ibis, and Katie go. Love them. I am really really happy to see Cohutta, Brad, Darrell (not surprised lol), Derrick, Johanna, Kelly Anne (for drama), and Kimberly still there! [quote=V1man;75183]I don't know what you mean. Perhaps you could be more illuminating? Jealous? Where do you get this stuff, from TV or real life?[/quote] Oh I'm sorry, I didn't want to be too blunt, but to be more illuminating, there is talk about her having "pill popping" problems. And her behavior seemed odd to me on the challenge dailies, not just the reunion. Her appearance even seemed a little off compared to her season. And as I said the jealous part was just my opinion. And apparently some of her fellow castmates even agreed with that. I know everyone seems to love her now from the Island but she seems like a girl with some issues. She even seems like she has potential to be the next Tonya. lol. But that's just the way I see it. I am happy to see her on the challenge though because she is great television (well I didn't think so on her season). [quote] Indeed. While Derrick is nice and friendly for camera, he is just as much friends and responsible (at times) as the JEK boys. He did throw the challenge so Johnny could win it - I believe he volunteered himself to go in. That left just Cohutta able to beat Johnny, and it almost happened. [/quote] Well good for him I say. There's nothing wrong with alliances. Just like Evelyn was saying on the Island reunion, it's a game and it's fine to have alliances, but Derrick was always respectful to everyone on the Island. Johnny Bananas and Kenny were not. You can have your alliance and play your game without being a loud, obnoxious, bullying jerk to people. That's why people like Derrick and not the JEK. Well I kind of like Kenny because he's funny and cute. Something about Evan I've never liked.

I wonder how many more eliminations are exspected. I wanna know who took who out in all the previous pit battles. When will we know these details?

[QUOTE=rw/rrjunkie;75342]I wonder how many more eliminations are exspected. I wanna know who took who out in all the previous pit battles. When will we know these details?[/QUOTE] You probably will not know the level of detail you seek until the show airs, unless you can piece it together yourself. That is not our purpose here.

[QUOTE=Isabella;75341]Oh I'm sorry, I didn't want to be too blunt, but to be more illuminating, there is talk about her having "pill popping" problems. And her behavior seemed odd to me on the challenge dailies, not just the reunion. Her appearance even seemed a little off compared to her season. And as I said the jealous part was just my opinion. And apparently some of her fellow castmates even agreed with that. I know everyone seems to love her now from the Island but she seems like a girl with some issues. She even seems like she has potential to be the next Tonya. lol. But that's just the way I see it. I am happy to see her on the challenge though because she is great television (well I didn't think so on her season). [/QUOTE] Nothing wrong with being blunt, since it allows us to get to the heart of the matter. "pill popping?" Interesting, but the Kelly Anne I know is into all things holistic. She writes blogs about nutrition. She revels in being quirky, which explains much the dailies. She admits to past recreational experimentation seemingly not uncommon with every generation since the '60s. Her behavior on The Island reunion show was not at all odd, given that she arrived in the green room well before everyone else and helped herself liberally to a bottle of vodka placed there by a perhaps knowing producer. She didn't want to face many of that cast on stage. If she could "re-do" that afternoon, she would, but the fact is she hated the confrontations and thought them completely pointless. I don't see any nexus between Kelly Anne and Tonya, but that is entirely another matter.

I know 14 people are out now, but don't 4 people usually get eliminated weekly from challenges?

[quote=dplayer18;75361]I know 14 people are out now, but don't [I][B]4 people usually get eliminated weekly from challenges?[/B][/I][/quote] I thought it was 3 ?, well maybe it changed now I guess. I think one more guy will be eliminated and than the remaining people will compete in the final challenge. Aren't Monday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays challenge days?