I was surprised when Dunbar picked MJ, I thought it was reported it was Dereck and Dunbar. I think Dunbar could of easily picked up the W going against Dereck. At any rate, he preformed well in the duel, so kudos to him.
CHRISTMAS IS EARLY! Paula is gone. I cannot imagine why Evan and Dunbar keep pleading to the viewers that they love Paula outside of this game. Every show I have absolutely loathed her.
And Brittini! I was so happy and shocked to see her win the challenge. Beating Rachel?! Ha! Go Britt!
Previews: OK, this Anessa/Rachel/Jenn stuff (if you've watched the dailies) is getting repetitive just like the Paula/Dunbar stuff. If they show Rachel's side or something to show that they think she's shady, then it will be something new and I won't mind it. But Anessa basically looks like she wants to be closer to Rachel and she's jealous of what she and Jenn has going on. And how many more missions will they have in which they are way up in the air hanging off of ropes or having a rope or bungee cord attached? I'd like to see some variety.
Other thoughts: I wonder if they will explain what they were allowed to do in their downtime during the reunion. In the past they would have gone to a nightclub (and been filmed dancing) or at a restaurant or something. I think in one of the dailies Dunbar mentioned that only one of them were allowed to go out at a time at some point, and I think Landon mentioned that they couldn't really do anything (though he could have just been talking about the normal rules). I
I am also wondering about this power alliance. I am wondering if some of the guys used Landon because he's winning a lot and they needed him to control the game, or if they just added him into the fold later. And I am wondering if just Landon doesn't care to look after Evan (he said he only cared about Brad and Mark), or have some of the other guys stopped caring about where he was in the lineup as well. I don't know. Just based on watching the show, it feels like some things are being left out or not presented well. I hope something is revealed in the next couple of episodes and I hope they discuss it during the reunion.
[quote=Morris1721;73431]For this Back Off, they re-did the sand and put the Duel 2 logo there with a circle wit ha new rule that you can't leave without the ring. None of that was there before.[/quote]
OK, I understand what you are saying now (though I didn't even pay attention to that myself).
[QUOTE=LCbaby;73432][B]I was surprised when Dunbar picked MJ, I thought it was reported it was Dereck and Dunbar.[/B] I think Dunbar could of easily picked up the W going against Dereck. At any rate, he preformed well in the duel, so kudos to him.
CHRISTMAS IS EARLY! Paula is gone. I cannot imagine why Evan and Dunbar keep pleading to the viewers that they love Paula outside of this game. Every show I have absolutely loathed her.
And Brittini! I was so happy and shocked to see her win the challenge. Beating Rachel?! Ha! Go Britt![/QUOTE]
I was shocked at Dunbar for keeping his word and not picking Derek, you don't see that too much on these challenges. But yea Derek would've been easier in that particular duel.
[quote=tjhallow;73441]Loved the flashback of the Duel and Inferno 3. Better editing, and how sweet of MJ![/quote]
See, that is the side of MJ I really like. Sometimes he has serious conversations in which you can tell he cares about people and it shows a niceness to him. I don't think he's ever come across super badly on these shows, but sometimes he can be insensitive and a little pompous.
[quote=RW561015;73447]See, that is the side of MJ I really like. Sometimes he has serious conversations in which you can tell he cares about people and it shows a niceness to him. I don't think he's ever come across super badly on these shows, but sometimes he can be insensitive and a little pompous.[/quote]
I don't remember him from the Gauntlet 2 and I couldn't stand on him on the Gauntlet 3. Now I remember why I liked him on his season, lol.
[quote=tjhallow;73441]Loved the flashback of the Duel and Inferno 3. Better editing, and how sweet of MJ![/quote]
exactly what i was thinking! The flashback of the duel and the inferno 3 had an old-school challenge feel to it. The editing of it made me smile and become more interested.
I'm sad to see Dunbar go. I will miss his outlandish outbursts, emotional breakdowns AND his hilarious wall punching.
Rachel losing against Britt was kind of funny. Diem needs to leave. I can't stand her.
I loved the meditation and hair braiding...it was cute.
Paula
[quote=Morris1721;73431]For this Back Off, they re-did the sand and put the Duel 2 logo there with a circle wit ha new rule that you can't leave without the ring. None of that was there before.[/quote]
I noticed that from the jump..I asked myself why would they do that?? I dont understand why they would change the rules in the middle of the season..
WOW @ them showing flashbacks. Didn't see that coming.
Paula needs to stop relying on guys. She needs to trust in herself when it comes to these shows. I mean it's not like she's a ****** competitor. Glad to see her go though.
I don't mind Dunbar leaving but I did want him to stay for some reason.
And yet again Brittni and Landon win.
That is all.
Wow, it actually looked like Rachel was beating her to me. Oh well, I like Brittini just as much. I can totally see Landon getting screwed over in a couple more episodes..
Couple of things,
I'm glad Brittany proved that she not just riding Landon's coat tails. I think she is by far the best female competitor on this show.
I find it odd that male and female partners have been selected to go into the duel the last few episodes (MJ+Aneesa this week, Kim + Derrick last). I wonder if that is a coincidence or planned.
I've stopped feeling bad for the people who wind-up at the bottom of the pecking order. I was under the impression that they were being excluded by the "power alliance", but this week they were the same people who finished last in the competition. The people who find themselves picked last have probably always been the ones who finish last in the competitions.
How does Dunbar end up in the water first knowing that he's going in the duel? Even if he threw the challenge to save his engergy for the duel, he got the one duel event that would put his opponent at the greatest disadvantage, and he still lost!
[quote=Eagle;73546]
How does Dunbar end up in the water first knowing that he's going in the duel? Even if he threw the challenge to save his engergy for the duel, he got the one duel event that would put his opponent at the greatest disadvantage, and he still lost![/quote]
I believe it was Dereck who fell first, then Dunbar. But, yes, I see your point.
[QUOTE=Eagle;73546]Couple of things,
I'm glad Brittany proved that she not just riding Landon's coat tails. I think she is by far the best female competitor on this show.
I find it odd that male and female partners have been selected to go into the duel the last few episodes (MJ+Aneesa this week, Kim + Derrick last). I wonder if that is a coincidence or planned.
I've stopped feeling bad for the people who wind-up at the bottom of the pecking order. I was under the impression that they were being excluded by the "power alliance", but this week they were the same people who finished last in the competition. The people who find themselves picked last have probably always been the ones who finish last in the competitions.
How does Dunbar end up in the water first knowing that he's going in the duel? Even if he threw the challenge to save his energy for the duel, he got the one duel event that would put his opponent at the greatest disadvantage, and he still lost![/QUOTE]
We don't know if people who are at the bottom are picked last. It is in BMP's interest, however, to show us this edit whether or not it's honest. It is in their interest for us to believe the consistently weakest people are the ones to leave each week. It validates their winners.
There is a normal practice on challenges that if you believe you are not going to win an individual mission, you lose as gracefully as possible and give the expected interview about it. This happens on challenges where missions/challenges and eliminations are on the same day. On a challenge like the one in this episode, the very last thing one wants is a duel requiring the same set of fatigued, lactic acid laden muscles. It's a killer on one's upper body for someone like Dunbar whose body building routine is built on explosive lift training (anaerobic) vs. MJ, whose football background leads him to endurance training (aerobic). In yesterday's episode, MJ had the distinct advantage based upon background and preparation.
One bit of commentary I heard from cast following the challenge, was that the people who put them into the wetsuits and harnesses were not professionals and didn't know what they were doing. This actually put cast members at considerable risk. This is part of the due diligence of challenge preparation where BMP must learn from the people at Survivor. Having one's lower body fall asleep or go numb as we saw happen to Evan, Tori and Mark is not normal and it is very dangerous. Artery failure (tearing) is a serious risk in these hanging situations. The safest rigging used by movie stunt people relies upon suspending body weight at the shoulders and not from between one's leg, below one's center of gravity. It one tears one of the two major arteries that "Y" in the groin area and extend down the legs, on's life expectancy is measured in minutes as one bleeds out internally. Unless properly diagnosed and in surgery within minutes, this leads to certain death -- guaranteed.
Wow that could have ended up being a major disaster there and am kind of surprised that happened as at least they should have made sure that wasn't an issue. Yeah there are a few things they need to learn from Survivor. As for the actual episode I was not surprised that Dunbar/Paula were sent in. They had been basically on the bottom of the picking order for a while now and it was only a matter of time before they went in. And yeah seeing Paula go wasn't that heartbreaking but having her and Dunbar leave cut out some good senseless drama.
So I'm not the biggest Paula fan in the world but I was pretty ambivalent about the Paula/Anessa Duel, I wouldn't have cared if either one of them went home. They both whine a lot, I'm completely over hearing Anessa go on about her 2/3 month relationship with Rachel that ended 7 years ago (in the dailies) and it looks like we're going to see even more of that next week. I actually kind of empathize with Paula (kind of) and it was interesting to see Evan admit (while hugging her goodbye so it made little difference) that he could've done more. But maybe she'll actually learn something about how to play the game this time around (if production is so inclined). I was happy to see her put up a good fight though.
I didn't really care who won the Dunbar vs. MJ face off either, while I was glad to see another side of MJ talking about his daughter, his edit still shows him to be closed minded and the tobacco chewing bothers the hell out me, so disgusting. And that whole Anessa hair braiding, chanting for spiritual enlightment stuff just made me roll my eyes, especially after the way he appeared to down Nehemiah for his spirituality, it just looked like he/they were taking a **** and I find that offensive. Dunbar, I don't care that much for him he doesn't come off so well either on the show or in comments on vevmo from people who have inside knowledge. But there is a small part of me that also empathizes with the fact that he tends to get played on these challenges too - he, much like Paula, seems to put his faith in the wrong people (at least according to the choosen storyline). It also was nice that he didn't call Derek out after giving his word he wouldn't, even though he probably would've had a better chance against him.
I was happy to see Brittini win an individual challenge. I still am of the belief that she is underrated as a competitor, she may not be physically the strongest or have the natural abilities of others but imho she's shown an ability to work hard and stay calm under pressure, I just like the mental toughness I've seen from her and at the end of the day that is something I value more than natural potential.
Editing way better this week.
Once again I agree with most of what you said, Binary Solo. I did want MJ and Anessa to win, though, but it wasn't because I was so bothered by Paula this time (though her and Dunbar were dull and annoying with the same thing over and over again). I also agree with your observation about MJ and the other guys calling Nehemiah weird for the Zen thing, yet they are humming in this episode. Someone mentioned this on the dailies site, and I thought they had a point. I was just happy for Anessa to braid MJ's hair because I think he needed a new style, plus it got his hair out of his face. And I was happy for Brittini's win because I also think she is a little underrated - it showed she was able to win by herself, at least for that one mission. I still wouldn't rate her as an amazing competitor, but I think she has done better than several of the girls on this challenge and can be considered a decent competitor for now.
[quote=tjhallow;73584]I just wanted to add that it was so sweet when Mark was screaming "Bella".[/quote]
It was so cool, as a mother myself if someone would have screamed "Do it for Lily" I do not think anything could stop me.
[quote=RMD1;73534]Brittini is really suprising me.. LOVE her!!![/quote]
First off, I have to make a formal apology to one Brittani Sherrod for underestimating her and her athletic prowless. I along with many other vevmoers have consistantly doubted her full potential because of her partner. No more.
RMD - I dedicate the following to her, so the next time you talk to her, let her know that some of us do acknowledge that a mistake was made in questioning her capability. I wrap up my apology with a short poem
Ode to Brittani,
I am guilty of viewing Landon as your crutch
Then, you prevailed against Rachel in the clutch
Underestimated because of your model looks and linky frame
I plead guilty with moderate shame
Surprised by your stamina and sheer will
You kicked *** last night, as I watched with thrill
Please forgive me for my disdain disregard
Never again will I doubt the physical spirit of Brit Sherrod.
Now, Ep 7
I was getting a littled winded of the Paula/Dunbar drama, but the challenge was the best I've seen in a while. I thought Evan would finally get his first earned victory, but Lando is simply a beast. He appears to be unbeatable. Brad did fight. As for the female side, I was impressed by both Brittani and Rachel. In the past I have questioned both of their capabilities because of the types of challenges, however, they are clearly the 2 strongest females in the house. I was a little taken back by Tori's submittal, ditto for Evan.
The duel selection - so predictable, I actually switched channels until Paula/Dunbar actually picked their opponents. Dunbar imo made a noble decision not to pick Derek, and picked MJ. Not a bad choice imo. Paula however, what the heck was she thinking picking Aneesa. She had a 1/5 chance at taking her, and imo it was not a wise choice.
Overall this was a decent episode, with a kick butt challenge. I kinda wish they had 2 challenges per episode to match 2 eliminations.
[quote=Darock1713;73605]
Ode to Brittani,
I am guilty of viewing Landon as your crutch
Then, you prevailed against Rachel in the clutch
Underestimated because of your model looks and linky frame
I plead guilty with moderate shame
Surprised by your stamina and sheer will
You kicked *** last night, as I watched with thrill
Please forgive me for my disdain disregard
Never again will I doubt the physical spirit of Brit Sherrod.
[/quote]
Beautiful! :buba:
[quote=Darock1713;73605]
I thought Evan would finally get his first earned victory, but Lando is simply a beast. He appears to be unbeatable. Brad did fight. As for the female side, I was impressed by both Brittani and Rachel. In the past I have questioned both of their capabilities because of the types of challenges, however, they are clearly the 2 strongest females in the house. I was a little taken back by Tori's submittal, ditto for Evan.
[/quote]
I agree. Tori and Evan just submitting really proves to me that the "strongest competitor" is not the winner of the overall challenge shows. Who wins these damn games are those who "play" the game the best. Master manipulators, friends with everybody but backing no one, the conniving ones.
Landon, physically in my warped loving eyes, is UNBEATABLE. Every challenge he kicks butt. He never gives up, and I was impressed with Brad. For some reason, I want to like Brad more, but I just cannot. Mark was real sweet with the Bella comment, Mark is definitely my second favorite guy.
And Rachel is whom I despise. Nobody picks on her because she is muscly and all bodybuilder-esque. But she clearly is NOT the strongest female in these games. Obviously, those upper strength muscles did nothing against Brittini's will. While I disliked Brittini on Hollywood, I really like her here. Bravo job, Britt. Landon's influence has done you well!
Tori really disappointed me this episode. Diem surprised me. And I like Evan, somewhat. His comments make me laugh. But really, I doubt the eliminated male players of the past would of just given up - except maybe Big Easy. We all know he hates his balls being in a bunch.
[quote=LCbaby;73642]I agree. Tori and Evan just submitting really proves to me that the "strongest competitor" is not the winner of the overall challenge shows. Who wins these damn games are those who "play" the game the best. Master manipulators, friends with everybody but backing no one, the conniving ones.
Landon, physically in my warped loving eyes, is UNBEATABLE. Every challenge he kicks butt. He never gives up, and I was impressed with Brad. For some reason, I want to like Brad more, but I just cannot. Mark was real sweet with the Bella comment, Mark is definitely my second favorite guy.
And Rachel is whom I despise. Nobody picks on her because she is muscly and all bodybuilder-esque. But she clearly is NOT the strongest female in these games. Obviously, those upper strength muscles did nothing against Brittini's will. While I disliked Brittini on Hollywood, I really like her here. Bravo job, Britt. Landon's influence has done you well!
Tori really disappointed me this episode. Diem surprised me. And I like Evan, somewhat. His comments make me laugh. But really, I doubt the eliminated male players of the past would of just given up - except maybe Big Easy. We all know he hates his balls being in a bunch.[/quote]
Well,
I do see you point in regards to Rachel. I still think she is somewhat overrated imo, but she has come on in the last few challenges. She is a good competitor, but Brittani has established herself in 1 episode as the female to beat. She won a challenge that required upper body strength, endurance, and will (amid the duress of the tight harness, the rain, and the cold).
I actually thought that Paula may go for her when picking a duel opponent, and she didn't. I would have been interested to see how that would have turned out, although I think Rachel would have eventually taken her 2-1.
[QUOTE=V1man;73566] Having one's lower body fall asleep or go numb as we saw happen to Evan, Tori and Mark is not normal and it is very dangerous. Artery failure (tearing) is a serious risk in these hanging situations. The safest rigging used by movie stunt people relies upon suspending body weight at the shoulders and not from between one's leg, below one's center of gravity. It one tears one of the two major arteries that "Y" in the groin area and extend down the legs, on's life expectancy is measured in minutes as one bleeds out internally. Unless properly diagnosed and in surgery within minutes, this leads to certain death -- guaranteed.[/QUOTE]
Yup. As I watched the episode this is exactly what I was thinking. Suspension trauma is very real. Being suspended like that (upright, with your legs underneath you) for as little as 5 minutes can be deadly. You often hear of soldiers who are forced to stand in place and then end up passing out...it's the same thing. Except, when they faint the blood that pooled in their legs is able to return to the heart. When you're suspended in the air, however, you need to be let down asap.
I was surprised to read that professionals aren't suiting them up. :treaten:
I think that is extremely irresponsible when doing stunts as dangerous as those.
Screw that. If I were on the show, the second I got an inkling that someone didn't know what they were doing I would be out of there. You'd think that BMP would think of the liability.....unless the cast has to sign something saying that BMP is not liable for anything that may happen. :fear2:
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