It is time to switch up teams. All the people on the men's team that should be gone are gone and now it is time to alter the chemistry.
I'd also like to see Jesse as project manager. What he had to say last night to Rodman was quite compelling. You can tell he has a great heart and I can see why Sandra Bullock married him.
I thought the Rodman drama was hard to watch and sad. You can tell there is a good person in there, but the alcohol and his antics are in control of his behavior.
I abhor Stephen Baldwin and even though I suppose he was "acting" as a demanding customer, I think he was enjoying it just a little too much. Almost like he played that "role" before...
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I'd also like to see Jesse as project manager. What he had to say last night to Rodman was quite compelling. You can tell he has a great heart and I can see why Sandra Bullock married him.
I thought the Rodman drama was hard to watch and sad. You can tell there is a good person in there, but the alcohol and his antics are in control of his behavior.
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I think I am in love with Jesse! He is so down to earth and when he speaks his mind it is usually thoughtful and seemingly genuine.
Last night was painful to watch, coming from a family full of addicts, I could see some of them and their self-destructive behavior in Dennis Rodman. They do the same thing, as soon as they actually have control of a situation and are doing well they sabotage themselves with drugs/alcohol. How sad to constantly trade reality for a lie.
The thing that was touching is you could tell everyone in the room was feeling/thinking the same thing as Jesse was expressing. I think they truly wanted Dennis to succeed at the task, in the beginning at least, to motivate & encourage him.
Also, I think it must be typical behavior of someone with addiction issues to not move past their "glory days" as I have witnessed this very thing within my family. Its like saying I got an A once on a test, therefore I must always be an A student from that moment on.
So heartbreaking...
I noticed that Dennis apparently didn't do an interview in the car at the end as all the others have traditionally done, but he did not a later interview in an Ed hardy tshirt buy Christian Audigier. Would anyone be surprised if Dennis was well paid to wear the shirt?
He wore that **** outta that Ed Hardy stuff while he was there.
I have a soft spot for him, I gave him a pass for everything he did that was out of line, I admit it.
Yeah...I agree with everything that's been said. Rodman doesn't seem like a terrible guy, but there's issues there.
HOLlA AT T-BOZ! When she stepped up, I was a little worried, but then when Rodman also stepped up, I was glad to know that she'd be sticking around =)
Stephen was a tool. Even though I knew they told him to go in there and be an ***, he was still a tool. Vinny kinda was too.
Overall, I'm glad I'm watching. This is my first Apprentice season haha
Ugh, I've lost all respect for Mr. Trump. Not that I had that much to begin with. What a pompous a@$
If I was Chloe I'd sue his *** off!!
Sure, I understand he's probably protected by some moral clauses and what not, but fire her when he learns of this information and not in the board room a week later (or whatever the time span is). It's a cop out. He didn't want to fire Clint so he used Chloe to step on his soap box and get rid of her.
I'm not excusing Chloe. What she did was a bad thing. But it should have been handled behind the scenes and it should have been a lesson to Donald to maybe to more background. Even if they are celebrities if he is going to fire them for moral issues.
I'm just angry on a ethical level. It's not like Chloe was going to make it much further.
[quote=Kathleen;57776]Ugh, I've lost all respect for Mr. Trump. Not that I had that much to begin with. What a pompous a@$
If I was Chloe I'd sue his *** off!!
Sure, I understand he's probably protected by some moral clauses and what not, but fire her when he learns of this information and not in the board room a week later (or whatever the time span is). It's a cop out. He didn't want to fire Clint so he used Chloe to step on his soap box and get rid of her.
I'm not excusing Chloe. What she did was a bad thing. But it should have been handled behind the scenes and it should have been a lesson to Donald to maybe to more background. Even if they are celebrities if he is going to fire them for moral issues.
I'm just angry on a ethical level. It's not like Chloe was going to make it much further.[/quote]
I was wondering why she was missing for part of the last episode...is that why? For some reason, I thought her DUI was a long time ago...wasn't it? Didn't she already "serve" (3 hours of) jail time and everything last summer?
It hasn't aired here yet, but I find that a pretty ****** reason to fire someone for a person reason. If it had nothing to do with her performance, it was uncalled for. That'd be like firing the Donald for his ****** hairstyle.
Sorry I probably should have put a spoiler in there.
But yeah she missed part of the task last week because she had to fly back to LA to check in because she asked for leave from her court appointed DUI classes. Donald said that he learned of it after she returned and had he known he'd never of put her on the show. But, he should have released her then not a week later. IMO.
[quote=Kathleen;57781]Sorry I probably should have put a spoiler in there.
But yeah she missed part of the task last week because she had to fly back to LA to check in because she asked for leave from her court appointed DUI classes. Donald said that he learned of it after she returned and had he known he'd never of put her on the show. But, he should have released her then not a week later. IMO.[/quote]
No, that's fine. I know **** well you're on the east coast and that it's over by now. I just can't help myself :)
He should have known well ahead of time that she received a DUI. He should've done his research. If he's gonna do that, then he shouldn't have put Rodman on the show because of his marraige to Carmen Electra (which he did while drunk). I think it's pretty ridiculous...everyone makes mistakes. Some of the most influential people in the world have come under fire for some of their mistakes, but it's what they did afterward that made them so great. I mean even Dubya had a DUI, but look at what he turned out to be...President of the United States!
I also think that maybe Trump just wanted to fire 2 women to make it a little more even for the guys. He fired the two women who were probably the least famous and recognizable.
[QUOTE=Kathleen;57776]Ugh, I've lost all respect for Mr. Trump. Not that I had that much to begin with. What a pompous a@$
If I was Chloe I'd sue his *** off!!
Sure, I understand he's probably protected by some moral clauses and what not, but fire her when he learns of this information and not in the board room a week later (or whatever the time span is). It's a cop out. He didn't want to fire Clint so he used Chloe to step on his soap box and get rid of her.
I'm not excusing Chloe. What she did was a bad thing. But it should have been handled behind the scenes and it should have been a lesson to Donald to maybe to more background. Even if they are celebrities if he is going to fire them for moral issues.
I'm just angry on a ethical level. It's not like Chloe was going to make it much further.[/QUOTE]
So The Donald is also judge, jury and executioner? The guy is a cl***less ****ole of the highest order. I'm no fan of the Kardashians, but Chloe's firing is the least undeserved of anything I've ever seen on television. I don't know how Mark Burnett could allow this to happen.
Unless there was something unseen behind this, I'm also going to lose respect for the remaining celebrities if none speak out again Trump for this.
Wow...OK, I just watched this. Way to make someone feel like complete shizz. What a *****!
Because I'm sure getting fired on Celebrity Apprentice is more of a lesson than the DUI classes and the trips to the coroners.
So...I just watched Joan and Melissa's encore videos. They ARE NOT commercials, so if you don't have more than 2 minutes, I wouldn't recommend watching.
Melissa's didn't mention All until 4 1/2 minutes (!!!!!) in. It's 5:39 long. It's actually pretty funny, especially the end. I liked the guy fairy, and how it told a story.
Joan's video only waited 47 seconds to mention All. The announcer guy was creepy, and Joan's jokes (if you can call them that) were obviously coming (Ditzy spokesmodel: "It's 3 times concentrated!" Joan: "I bet that's 2 1/2 times more than you've concentrated in your whole life!"). I did like how she had the biophysist or whatever the heck he was against the mother of 3, with the mom cleaning up shop. She obviously learned from the boardroom and played to the demographic. The ending was hilarious with the spokesmodel- "Smells like happy! Looks like a purse!" with Joan in the background shaking her head. And it was a minute shorter at 4:16!
Neither could be considered viral, in my opinion. But, I sat through both to donate 50 cents to each person's charity. Yay me!
Last nights episode had me so upset. It was utterly ridiculous for him to fire her for circumstances not pertaining to the show in any way. I really do hope some of the celebrities on the show comment on this. I really think I am done with this show now.
Did Khloe have to serve her 3 hours in jail, because she didn't make all her DUI classes? I thought the story going around was she skipped a class to go to Italy or something? OK, sorry off topic. I do still love her.
Clint, was not good. He shoulda been fired, but I can see where he'd keep a certain demographic watching, I guess.
Both videos stunk, in my opinion (well this whole thing is just my opinion lol). Melissa got on my nerves when she started in, in the boardroom. She wasn't there, that I know of, yet she went on a rant like she knew everything that was going on.
[quote=313Mary;57826]Did Khloe have to serve her 3 hours in jail, because she didn't make all her DUI classes?[/quote]
As far as I am aware, she was sentenced to her jail time after failing to perform some roadside cleanup and enroll in an alcohol education class. Her original sentence was something like 3 or 4 years probation. She was released after 3 hours because of overcrowding, but faced 30 days.
[QUOTE=molds13;57842]As far as I am aware, she was sentenced to her jail time after failing to perform some roadside cleanup and enroll in an alcohol education class. Her original sentence was something like 3 or 4 years probation. She was released after 3 hours because of overcrowding, but faced 30 days.[/QUOTE]
In most cases, these things tend to be disputes between defense attorneys and prosecutors over differing interpretations of whatever terms were established at sentencing. The judges do confer with jail officials to determine how long someone will be held, and the judge would have been aware that she would have actually been in a holding cell for only about an hour following processing.
That episode/boardroom was the biggest ****ing bullshit I've ever seen! Granted, this is the only season I've seen this show, but I am OUTRAGED as a viewer that Tionne and Khloe were fired.
First off - Tionne. Molds, I disagree with you saying that she is one of the least recognizable faces. Her work with TLC in the late 90's trumps (no pun intended) anything that Brande, Claudia, Natalie, Jesse, etc have or will ever have done. I understand that's my personal opinion. My point lies in the fact that these are celebrities. He basically just punished Tionne for not watching his ****ing show, which is [B]absolutely ridiculous[/B]. I really thought Tionne was going to make it quite far, especially after she stepped up last week. Total. BS.
And Khloe? Maybe your people should do their homework, Trump. Or maybe Burnett should or said people should've told Trump in advance where all the celebs would be going during their leave time. Her getting fired for personal reasons has [I]nothing[/I] to do with the game and [I]nothing[/I] to do with the task.
Now I remember why I didn't watch this show in the first place. Because Trump is an utter *********.
Clearly, Clint and Melissa were saved because they're bringing the drama and bringing the ratings. Melissa and Annie can continue to go at it, and Joan and Clint can also do the same. LAME Trump. L A M E.
[quote=RockSteadyVybes;57889]First off - Tionne. Molds, I disagree with you saying that she is one of the least recognizable faces. Her work with TLC in the late 90's trumps (no pun intended) anything that Brande, Claudia, Natalie, Jesse, etc have or will ever have done. I understand that's my personal opinion. My point lies in the fact that these are celebrities. He basically just punished Tionne for not watching his ****ing show, which is [B]absolutely ridiculous[/B]. I really thought Tionne was going to make it quite far, especially after she stepped up last week. Total. BS. [/quote]
Maybe I should've elaborated more. To me, yes. I know who she is. To an 18 year old? Doubted. And to a 40 year old? Also doubted. But I don't know her as Tionne. I know her as T-Boz. I don't believe that a majority of people *who watch this show* know who Tionne Watkins is off the top of their head. But do they know T-Boz? It's much more likely.
I'm not saying that she's one of the least famous. I do think that her work is more than most of the celebrities this season have done. But compared to the other celebrities who are currently working and have their name out, she is less famous than them in the [I]current[/I] time period. 10 or 15 years ago, they didn't stand a chance compared to her. In that sense, she [I]is[/I] one of the least famous...[I]at this point in time.[/I]
Bottom line, however, is that you never volunteer to be executed. I believe that Trump brought up the point of whats-his-face so that he makes the same decision he made the last time someone volunteered, not necessarily because she didn't watch the show. The way he came off saying it, however, absolutely sounded like he fired her for not watching.
Donald Trump was my landlord in 1979-1980. I ended up suing his company in small claims court in NYC in 1980 and easily winning. I know from personal experience that they lie, and it is officially in the court record that they were caught doing so by the court.
Calling The Donald a ********* gives *********s everywhere a bad name.
[QUOTE=molds13;57892]Maybe I should've elaborated more. To me, yes. I know who she is. To an 18 year old? Doubted. And to a 40 year old? Also doubted. But I don't know her as Tionne. I know her as T-Boz. I don't believe that a majority of people *who watch this show* know who Tionne Watkins is off the top of their head. But do they know T-Boz? It's much more likely.
I'm not saying that she's one of the least famous. I do think that her work is more than most of the celebrities this season have done. But compared to the other celebrities who are currently working and have their name out, she is less famous than them in the [I]current[/I] time period. 10 or 15 years ago, they didn't stand a chance compared to her. In that sense, she [I]is[/I] one of the least famous...[I]at this point in time.[/I]
Bottom line, however, is that you never volunteer to be executed. I believe that Trump brought up the point of whats-his-face so that he makes the same decision he made the last time someone volunteered, not necessarily because she didn't watch the show. The way he came off saying it, however, absolutely sounded like he fired her for not watching.[/QUOTE]
You do make good points - esp. Tionne branded as "T-Boz" as opposed to herself. Apparently her new solo is going ot be under the name "Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins". But yeah - I get what you mean, and yeah, the way it was worded sounded like he was holding it against her that she didn't know who that other guy was. I'm an old school TLC fan (obviously) so when she got fired I was booooooing loudly haha
And V1 - that is HILARIOUS!
Thumbs down to Trump for me. Both firings were BS. I should stop watching it now. I probably won't stop though. We'll see.. haha
[QUOTE=RockSteadyVybes;57899]You do make good points - esp. Tionne branded as "T-Boz" as opposed to herself. Apparently her new solo is going ot be under the name "Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins". But yeah - I get what you mean, and yeah, the way it was worded sounded like he was holding it against her that she didn't know who that other guy was. I'm an old school TLC fan (obviously) so when she got fired I was booooooing loudly haha
And V1 - that is HILARIOUS!
Thumbs down to Trump for me. Both firings were BS. I should stop watching it now. I probably won't stop though. We'll see.. haha[/QUOTE]
The mistake Trump made with both Bradford and Tionne is in his basic view of life. He says never volunteer for execution. While the situations for Bradford and Tionne were very dissimilar, both make individual ethically driven decisions. I don't doubt that many, many of Bernie Madoff's employees were of the "don't volunteer for execution" persuasion. Frankly, I'll cast my lot with the ethically driven individuals every time. Trump's view is highly cynical while both Bradford and Tionne represent far more principled behavior even in a game.
[quote=RockSteadyVybes;57899]You do make good points - esp. Tionne branded as "T-Boz" as opposed to herself. Apparently her new solo is going ot be under the name "Tionne 'T-Boz' Watkins". But yeah - I get what you mean, and yeah, the way it was worded sounded like he was holding it against her that she didn't know who that other guy was. I'm an old school TLC fan (obviously) so when she got fired I was booooooing loudly haha[/quote]
Definitely. I must admit the first time I saw her, she looked familiar, but I still said "Who's Tionne?" then it showed her as Tionne "T-Boz" and I was like ohhhhhhhhhh yeah! Then it all came back...
Trump should've told her not to go chasin' waterfalls.
I give this episode 2 thumbs down. He should've fired Clint and Melissa, although Melissa won't get fired until a Joan/Melissa showdown where the other gets fired. I can see it coming from a mile away.
[QUOTE=molds13;57912]Definitely. I must admit the first time I saw her, she looked familiar, but I still said "Who's Tionne?" then it showed her as Tionne "T-Boz" and I was like ohhhhhhhhhh yeah! Then it all came back...
Trump should've told her not to go chasin' waterfalls.
I give this episode 2 thumbs down. He should've fired Clint and Melissa, although Melissa won't get fired until a Joan/Melissa showdown where the other gets fired. I can see it coming from a mile away.[/QUOTE]
Clint and Melissa totally should've gotten the boot!
It'd be stupid if Joan and Melissa were the final 2. I hope that doesn't happen. I also wanted Melissa gone so I could see Joan's reaction haha
[url=http://perezhilton.com/2009-04-06-disorderly-conduct-no-shock-there]Perez Hilton: Disorderly Conduct - No Shock There![/url]
.......yeah.
Looks like he got a lot of help, Donald.
I'm going to agree with everyone in saying the firings were completely arbitrary and made no sense in the context of the game. However, watching season after season of this show I am not surprised. Actually, I knew that those were the two he was going to fire when he called them back to the boardroom.
Tionne hardly ever said anything. The first time I noticed her was last week and she wasn't even in this week's episode, except for where she presented the check to her charity. I know some of you feel she [strike]is[/strike] was a huge star, but as I stated earlier I had no idea who she was until the dots were connected and it was pointed out that she was in a 90's girl band.
Khloe has no claim to fame beyond being the third wheel in her sister's reality show and even though she was reasonably visible this week, she brought little to the table. There was no chance she was going to win and it was her time (so The Donald made up an excuse, as brutal as it was.)
It is clear that Clint is a center of drama as is Melissa. They are huge in creating a weekly storyline. They had to remain.
Brande is way too hot to fire for no reason and I think Trump is secretly in love with Natalie...
As for the task itself, both teams failed on an epic scale. It was hard to watch in an, "I'm embarrassed for them" kind of way.
Ultimately the real question is: Why would a supposed "conservative" brand like ALL be peddling its wares on The Celebrity Apprentice with a task to create a viral video? Did they want to look stupid on purpose?
Sure, your brand gets exposure - but you have to know going into something like this that what these goofballs come up with is not going to target 25 year old church going soccer moms from Kansas...and you end up looking like prudes.
[QUOTE=Bacchus;58029]I'm going to agree with everyone in saying the firings were completely arbitrary and made no sense in the context of the game. However, watching season after season of this show I am not surprised. Actually, I knew that those were the two he was going to fire when he called them back to the boardroom.
Tionne hardly ever said anything. The first time I noticed her was last week and she wasn't even in this week's episode, except for where she presented the check to her charity. I know some of you feel she [strike]is[/strike] was a huge star, but as I stated earlier I had no idea who she was until the dots were connected and it was pointed out that she was in a 90's girl band.
Khloe has no claim to fame beyond being the third wheel in her sister's reality show and even though she was reasonably visible this week, she brought little to the table. There was no chance she was going to win and it was her time (so The Donald made up an excuse, as brutal as it was.)
It is clear that Clint is a center of drama as is Melissa. They are huge in creating a weekly storyline. They had to remain.
Brande is way too hot to fire for no reason and I think Trump is secretly in love with Natalie...
As for the task itself, both teams failed on an epic scale. It was hard to watch in an, "I'm embarrassed for them" kind of way.
Ultimately the real question is: Why would a supposed "conservative" brand like ALL be peddling its wares on The Celebrity Apprentice with a task to create a viral video? Did they want to look stupid on purpose?
Sure, your brand gets exposure - but you have to know going into something like this that what these goofballs come up with is not going to target 25 year old church going soccer moms from Kansas...and you end up looking like prudes.[/QUOTE]
Jenna Jameson uses Tide. :man_in_love:
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