[quote=LilysMom;57387]This is where opinions just differ, these things that you are referring to were edited by someone else. After being on here and reading very carefully I have learned to not be manipulated by simply what I am seeing now. That and I really don't care what happened, it happened between them it is their business. Yes the were on a public television show, but they owe us nothing. These shows are contractual, unless even MTV does not want you there and we all know who I am talking about. After that their time is done, they have paid their dues.[/quote]
Yes, we are just going to have to respectfully agree to disagree. My opinion is that Ryan told us the main reason, if not the only reason, he dislikes Sarah is because he feels she is fake - as in trying too hard to be nice. He has shown a disdain for her several times over the same thing (and the interview was not a BMP/MTV thing), and it seems each time he expresses it the same and to me it appears to be what he feels in general. I know things are edited. I do think some things aren't given a good edit or a more accurate view, and I do think about that sometimes in forming my opinions, but mostly what I have to go by is what I see on the show and read in articles. I wouldn't really be able to discuss the show much at all if I couldn't take into consideration that a lot of the stuff I am seeing on the show is at least partially what happened. I don't think Ryan or Sarah owe us anything, and I am not asking for anything from them. I don't hate them, either. But I watch the show and comment on it as an entertainment. Their issues aired to the public on TV, and we discuss them on the message board, and I get curious about things I've watched. Their issue caught my attention, far earlier on in the season, actually, through the daily clip.
[quote=trees12;57406]Ding, ding, ding we have a winner. You hit the nail on the head. Some try and say we don't know what happen between them. Ryan has explained it numerous times and he can't justify his hate. I can see possible annoyance at times if a person isn't used to a person like that. Hoewver, not being friends over it and disrespecting her is absurd.[/quote]
I can think of a person I have a strong dislike for and the dislike comes from the accumulation of dozens of incidents. If I had to use any one of them as a basis to explain my dislike, people would say that that one thing is not reason enough to dislike someone. That's true, but it's the full set of things that causes me to feel the way that I do. So if Ryan points to one specific thing or another, it will be the same way, that it will seem petty. He tries to summarize it as her being fake. Maybe if he wrote out on one list the top 36 times that Sarah was fake, the volume of it may become more persuasive. On the other hand, you then have to factor in the importance of fakeness to him personally. It's a quality he despises but it may not bother other people at all.
[QUOTE=IndySkye;57422]I can think of a person I have a strong dislike for and the dislike comes from the accumulation of dozens of incidents. If I had to use any one of them as a basis to explain my dislike, people would say that that one thing is not reason enough to dislike someone. That's true, but it's the full set of things that causes me to feel the way that I do. So if Ryan points to one specific thing or another, it will be the same way, that it will seem petty. He tries to summarize it as her being fake. Maybe if he wrote out on one list the top 36 times that Sarah was fake, the volume of it may become more persuasive. On the other hand, you then have to factor in the importance of fakeness to him personally. It's a quality he despises but it may not bother other people at all.[/QUOTE]
Or the alternate and equally persuasive possibility is that Devyn, Katelynn and even the girl Ryan is dating are correct in saying Sarah is real and not fake. All three vigorously defended her during the reunion [I]taping[/I], and so did Scott. Chet was largely silent on the subject and we all know JD has his own issues. Maybe it is Ryan who has not encountered someone like Sarah previously. Frankly, Ryan's life experience is not particularly broad, it just been narrowly deadly in recent years. I don't hold his opinion of Sarah against him as do some others. I simply see it as a manifestation of his need for continued growth. There is no need to write him off; Baya's endorsement of him is enough for me to expect he has great capacity for growth.
I rewatched last night and it comes down to one word and as Ryan put it integrity, you got none. Sarah vehemently denied putting milk in their boxes, which they knew would spoil and ruin whatever it had got on. I really hope Ryan's scrapbooks weren't in those boxes, to have that ruined would be enough for me to say, your done. That fact is Sarah lied straight to his face numerous time that night, and was willing to let JD go down for it, JD was not the best character on this show, but to be atacked by 7 other people for something he did not do, is down right onry. Sara still continued to lie about it, what more do you want, a liar is a liar. The boys deserved something they had been pulling pranks all season, but crushing up dog food and soap in the milk? That is ***** disgusting. I would have flipped! I wonder how Scott felt when he saw that they violated his chicken.
Talk about this all you want, I am done. This man is going to fight for our country, where you live, where you get to sit at your keyboard and type whatever you want because the same kinda of men having been fighting for this country for hundreds of years. I bet he does not like all the people in Iraq either, are we going to ask him why? And demand an explanation, you might, but I am damn sure going to stand up and salute this man with PRIDE!
[quote=LilysMom;57431]I rewatched last night and it comes down to one word and as Ryan put it integrity, you got none. Sarah vehemently denied putting milk in their boxes, which they knew would spoil and ruin whatever it had got on. I really hope Ryan's scrapbooks weren't in those boxes, to have that ruined would be enough for me to say, your done. That fact is Sarah lied strsight to his face numerous time that night, and was willing to let JD go down for it. Now JD was not the best character on this show, but to be atacked by 7 other people for something he did not do, is down right onry. Sara still continued to lie about it, what more do you want, a liar is a liar. The boys deserved something they had been pulling pranks all season, but crushing up dog food and soap in the milk? That is ***** disgusting. I would have flipped! I wonder how Scott felt when he saw that they violated his chicken.
Talk about this all you want, I am done. This man is going to fight for our country, where you live, where you get to sit at your keyboard and type whatever you want because the same kinda of men having been fighting for this country for hundreds of years. I bet he does not like all the people in Iraq either, are we going to ask him why? And demand an explanation, you might, but I am damn sure going to stand up and salute this man with PRIDE![/quote]
You go girl.
I am getting sick of everyone trying to analyze this. We never lived with them, so we are never going to fully understand why Ryan doesn't like Sarah. Get over it.
[QUOTE]k8mnstr;You've obviously made up your mind so any tangible evidence I could present would be seen as biased by you, and thus fruit from a poisonous tree.
I'm truly sorry that you and a handful of others hold this opinion of Sarah, but if what you state is true - maybe in a parallel alternate universe perhaps - she is an actress of a caliber we have not seen since the era of Doris Day and Audrey Hepburn. It does seem as though some of your comments are made for sensationalist value, which is upsetting because I consider you to be an otherwise intelligent and logical person.
Forget personal off-camera experiences for a second, in spite of everything you've been shown between our season and the reunion what [I]evidence[/I] is there to support the claim that Sarah is being fake? If you're going to discard off-camera accounts from the girls or other Sarah "supporters" shouldn't you equally discard Ryan's arguments which were not shown?
You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm curious as to why you feel the need to wear it as a chip on your shoulder.[/QUOTE]
I look at it this way - people (JD for instance) are not all bad, but people are not all good either. Sarah tries to come across a nice genuine person, but in my experience those are the ones to watch out for because they are usually the ones talking smack behind your back. All of you called JD out about gossiping and back talking but Sarah did it too. The final straw that made me feel this way about her was that she lied continually about the big prank on the final episode. It was abundantly clear that you and Devyn were indifferent towards the guys but Sarah tried to act like the was friends with most of them, which is obviously not true with Ryan and probably not even Chet. The only person she was real towards was JD and thats because she jumped on the "I hate JD" train that you and Devyn were driving.
I will say that I do not completely dislike Sarah. She was a real sweetheart at times and I respect her for the charity work she does. But I can't help wondering if there is another side to her that she just does not or will not show. Call me jaded but I've been screwed over one too many times by "friends" who have another/shady side to them.
P/S - I am not an English/Vocab major (meaning I'm not so good with coming up with the right words to express how I feel) so let me know if I need to clarify some of my points.
[QUOTE=rwny4ever;57443]I look at it this way - people (JD for instance) are not all bad, but people are not all good either. Sarah tries to come across a nice genuine person, but in my experience those are the ones to watch out for because they are usually the ones talking smack behind your back. All of you called JD out about gossiping and back talking but Sarah did it too. The final straw that made me feel this way about her was that she lied continually about the big prank on the final episode. It was abundantly clear that you and Devyn were indifferent towards the guys but Sarah tried to act like the was friends with most of them, which is obviously not true with Ryan and probably not even Chet. The only person she was real towards was JD and thats because she jumped on the "I hate JD" train that you and Devyn were driving.
I will say that I do not completely dislike Sarah. She was a real sweetheart at times and I respect her for the charity work she does. But I can't help wondering if there is another side to her that she just does not or will not show. [B]Call me jaded[/B] but I've been screwed over one too many times by "friends" who have another/shady side to them.
P/S - I am not an English/Vocab major (meaning I'm not so good with coming up with the right words to express how I feel) so let me know if I need to clarify some of my points.[/QUOTE]
I'll take you up on your request: [B]You're jaded.[/B] :sofa: :)
[quote=tjhallow;57432]You go girl.
I am getting sick of everyone trying to analyze this. We never lived with them, so we are never going to fully understand why Ryan doesn't like Sarah. Get over it.[/quote]
It's probably the biggest unsolved mystery of the season as to why exactly Ryan dislikes Sarah so. If there were not substantial discussion about it, especially with the heated exchange during the finale, that would be odd. I have found several interesting ideas floated here that I hadn't thought of and I appreciate the people for mentioning them. If there is any speculation that hasn't been covered yet on the topic, I would be glad to see it. There's no more episodes so all we have left is speculation.
[quote=IndySkye;57504]It's probably the biggest unsolved mystery of the season as to why exactly Ryan dislikes Sarah so. If there were not substantial discussion about it, especially with the heated exchange during the finale, that would be odd. I have found several interesting ideas floated here that I hadn't thought of and I appreciate the people for mentioning them. If there is any speculation that hasn't been covered yet on the topic, I would be glad to see it. There's no more episodes so all we have left is speculation.[/quote]
True...but we have a whole new set of horizons in the future. With The Duel 2 coming out in what 5 days, their dailies are up today so there will be new footage on there everyday. And this looks to be such a good challenge, some great players coming back that we have not seen in a while I know I am looking forward to Landon, and some new ones that are going to surprise the hell out of us. The real World Cancun is starting to get some buzz as cast members and locations are found. There is also another new show on MTV that I like, Taking the stage. It is full of kids that are so crazy talented.
[QUOTE=LilysMom;57431]I rewatched last night and it comes down to one word and as Ryan put it integrity, you got none. Sarah vehemently denied putting milk in their boxes, which they knew would spoil and ruin whatever it had got on. I really hope Ryan's scrapbooks weren't in those boxes, to have that ruined would be enough for me to say, your done. That fact is Sarah lied straight to his face numerous time that night, and was willing to let JD go down for it, JD was not the best character on this show, but to be atacked by 7 other people for something he did not do, is down right onry. Sara still continued to lie about it, what more do you want, a liar is a liar.[/QUOTE]
But Sarah didn't but milk in the boy's boxes... Devyn and I did. Actually listen to what Sarah had said, "I swear I did not pour milk in anyone's box". Sarah never lied and said JD did the prank, I did. In that whole situation Baya and Sarah never lied to anyone. But to Ryan, that didn't matter as he had already written her off. Sarah was actually against the box prank as that violated a rule she set forth from the beginning: don't mess with other people's stuff. The fact that she continued to abide by this rule in spite of the boys, [B]all four of them[/B], putting the rat in her bed (it defecated and chewed through her sheets) shows that she has copious amounts of integrity.
[QUOTE=rwny4ever;57443]I look at it this way - people (JD for instance) are not all bad, but people are not all good either. Sarah tries to come across a nice genuine person, but in my experience those are the ones to watch out for because they are usually the ones talking smack behind your back...[/QUOTE]
I find it interesting that you are still claiming that Sarah [B]tries[/B] to come across as nice and genuine. It reminds me of how in the first few episodes people (not here on Vevmo) insisted that I was [I]trying[/I] to sound intelligent, merely because I have a robust vocabulary and refuse to dumb myself down in casual conversation. Now, was I actually consciously making an effort to come across to the viewing public that way? No. And I think that any of the Vevmoers that have met me in person or that I've had any length of conversation with will attest to that. Likewise it seems a bit odd that you think that every action Sarah has made was calculated in an attempt for her to engender herself to the audience as kind and genuine.
And even if I would be willing to stipulate that she did (what I'm not), it would be an exercise in futility because we all know that BMP is going to show what they want people to see, regardless of your true character.
So knowing this, how can you logically still assert the opinion that Sarah was making a calculated and conscious attempt to be genuine? Then again maybe I'm failing to see the truth in that your opinion is derived illogically from an emotional attachment you've made with another cast member on the show, and that is influencing your opinion toward her. Much in the same way that people who have grown attached to me immediately spawn hatred for JD, and that is something I try to quash every chance I get, but I digress.
I'll step off of my soapbox now.
Way to set the record straight Katelynn! But there are some people in this world that can't stand to seeing someone being nice weather it is genuine or fake. I don't think sarah's attitude with JD means much of anything because it doesn't matter how sweet of a person someone is if you upset them they will react!
[quote=k8mnstr;57518]But Sarah didn't but milk in the boy's boxes... Devyn and I did. Actually listen to what Sarah had said, "I swear I did not pour milk in anyone's box". Sarah never lied and said JD did the prank, I did. In that whole situation Baya and Sarah never lied to anyone. But to Ryan, that didn't matter as he had already written her off. Sarah was actually against the box prank as that violated a rule she set forth from the beginning: don't mess with other people's stuff. The fact that she continued to abide by this rule in spite of the boys, [B]all four of them[/B], putting the rat in her bed (it defecated and chewed through her sheets) shows that she has copious amounts of integrity.[/quote]
Katelynn, I must have the colors of their shirts mixed up then, I honestly do not care what happened or between who. The only point I was ever trying to make is that there is always 2 sides to every story. I have no hate for any members of the house, I do not have a favorite. I watched because it was just down right good television and your story was compelling, so was Ryan's. I would have like to have seen more of the others stories but hey that is how the cookie crumbles. Basically to me it was a television show that I actually get to hear from the people that were on it. Which makes me like everyone more for taking the time to come here and share the factual events. That being said I have never spewed any Sara hate on here, my post this morning was purely an emotional reaction. I do not make the assumptions that I know who is nice and who is not who is good or who is bad.
I will say that I do wish the girls in the house would have stepped up for themselves when Ryan was screaming at them for no real reason after scott told ryan what Baya said. One of the girls should have told him he was[COLOR="Red"] WAY[/COLOR] out of line!
I really think that some members here are getting this site confused with some regular run of the mill website where you can hate on someone without any plausible evidence to do so. Everyone here has a brain, and can analyze a situation if they want to in order to weed out the "real world" from the noise. Some choose not to for reasons that escape me, If a cast member is posting here telling us what truly went down, why dont some of you believe it? Especially if you apply the thought of "we did not go through the three plus months with these people" to whatever you post here? At the end of the day what happened in that house happened and cannot be undone. Can we stop going on witch hunts now? Please? These castmembers are people when it comes down to it, with hearts, emotions and feelings just like you and I. That is why when I log on here to write during the show, I make sure to check myself when writing a reply because getting caught up in the whole editing trick will surely get you burned. Some things will seem to not be what they are and some will.
/rant over
[quote=V1man;57423]Or the alternate and equally persuasive possibility is that Devyn, Katelynn and even the girl Ryan is dating are correct in saying Sarah is real and not fake. All three vigorously defended her during the reunion [I]taping[/I], and so did Scott. Chet was largely silent on the subject and we all know JD has his own issues. Maybe it is Ryan who has not encountered someone like Sarah previously. Frankly, Ryan's life experience is not particularly broad, it just been narrowly deadly in recent years. I don't hold his opinion of Sarah against him as do some others. I simply see it as a manifestation of his need for continued growth. There is no need to write him off; Baya's endorsement of him is enough for me to expect he has great capacity for growth.[/quote]
That upsets me quite a bit with Chet because he is ONE of my favorites. I've grown to really like Sarah and Katelyn. I mean is Chet afraid of Ryan because they're best friends. I mean Chet talks to and is friends with Sarah so stand up for the girl a little. I didn't know Scott defended her, but I'm glad he did. Really I like everyone this season except JD and my like for Ryan is very very very little due to the Sarah issue.
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;57518]But Sarah didn't but milk in the boy's boxes... Devyn and I did. Actually listen to what Sarah had said, "I swear I did not pour milk in anyone's box". Sarah never lied and said JD did the prank, I did. In that whole situation Baya and Sarah never lied to anyone. But to Ryan, that didn't matter as he had already written her off. Sarah was actually against the box prank as that violated a rule she set forth from the beginning: don't mess with other people's stuff. The fact that she continued to abide by this rule in spite of the boys, [B]all four of them[/B], putting the rat in her bed (it defecated and chewed through her sheets) shows that she has copious amounts of integrity.
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I totally noticed that Sarah made it a point to say specifically that she didn't poor milk in anyone's box. I thought that was clever!
BUT
While she made it a point to say she doesn't like messing with anyone's property, what does she consider Ryan's milk and cereal? If it belongs to him (which I assume it does hence the huge R on it and the markings to ensure no one steals any) wouldn't that be considered his [I]property[/I]?
In any case, it doesn't affect my opinion of her at all--it's just something that made me go "huh?" at the time. Her prank was relatively tame compared to the others (All the pranks in the house, not just the ones done that night).
[QUOTE=luckystar112;57557]I totally noticed that Sarah made it a point to say specifically that she didn't poor milk in anyone's box. I thought that was clever!
BUT
While she made it a point to say she doesn't like messing with anyone's property, what does she consider Ryan's milk and cereal? If it belongs to him (which I assume it does hence the huge R on it and the markings to ensure no one steals any) wouldn't that be considered his [I]property[/I]?
In any case, it doesn't affect my opinion of her at all--it's just something that made me go "huh?" at the time. Her prank was relatively tame compared to the others (All the pranks in the house, not just the ones done that night).[/QUOTE]
Just felt like adding that the whole thing was weird. The guys just walk in and immediately want the cereal? Seems like they are giggling beforehand too. And the comment by Ryan about, "What, it's just crumbs" seemed so scripted. I don't know if someone told them beforehand what went down or what (ahem, jd). It just seemed like a huge coincidence. I'm not saying that the scene was staged or anything, but it did seem like they knew something was wrong with the cereal right off the bat. At least to me. Could have just been paranoia on their part since they knew something was coming.
Later, Chet's comment about "trying to enjoy their last bowl of waffle cereal before Ryan goes to Iraq" was a little silly. I'm a huge Chet fan but that comment just seemed like he was trying a littttle to hard to illustrate the seriousness of putting soap in milk. lol
I like Chet, but if the boys can't take pranks they shouldn't have started them. I felt so bad for Sarah. I mean Ryan pounced on her after that prank like a rattle snake pouncing on a mouse.
[quote=trees12;57559][B]I like Chet, but if the boys can't take pranks they shouldn't have started them.[/B] I felt so bad for Sarah. I mean Ryan pounced on her after that prank like a rattle snake pouncing on a mouse.[/quote]
I agree. Everytime Chet got mad about a prank that was pulled on him all I could think was 'Didn't he light a man's hair on fire?' Pretty sure that beats milk on your clothes.
[quote=luckystar112;57558]Just felt like adding that the whole thing was weird. The guys just walk in and immediately want the cereal? Seems like they are giggling beforehand too. And the comment by Ryan about, "What, it's just crumbs" seemed so scripted. I don't know if someone told them beforehand what went down or what (ahem, jd). It just seemed like a huge coincidence. I'm not saying that the scene was staged or anything, but it did seem like they knew something was wrong with the cereal right off the bat. At least to me. Could have just been paranoia on their part since they knew something was coming.[/quote]
LOL, I was thinking the same thing while watching it. I can just picture the producers holding up giant cue-cards that say "hey, don't you guys have the urge for a bowl of cereal, right about now?"
[quote=k8mnstr;57518]I find it interesting that you are still claiming that Sarah [B]tries[/B] to come across as nice and genuine. It reminds me of how in the first few episodes people (not here on Vevmo) insisted that I was [I]trying[/I] to sound intelligent, merely because I have a robust vocabulary and refuse to dumb myself down in casual conversation. Now, was I actually consciously making an effort to come across to the viewing public that way? No. And I think that any of the Vevmoers that have met me in person or that I've had any length of conversation with will attest to that. Likewise it seems a bit odd that you think that every action Sarah has made was calculated in an attempt for her to engender herself to the audience as kind and genuine.
And even if I would be willing to stipulate that she did (what I'm not), it would be an exercise in futility because we all know that BMP is going to show what they want people to see, regardless of your true character.
So knowing this, how can you logically still assert the opinion that Sarah was making a calculated and conscious attempt to be genuine? Then again maybe I'm failing to see the truth in that your opinion is derived illogically from an emotional attachment you've made with another cast member on the show, and that is influencing your opinion toward her. Much in the same way that people who have grown attached to me immediately spawn hatred for JD, and that is something I try to quash every chance I get, but I digress.
I'll step off of my soapbox now.[/quote]
I give up, as you evidently did not read my entire response, only a portion before getting defensive. I cited a few examples of why I have the impression I have. Seriously its not like my opinion or that of anyone else here matters. We do not know you and you do not know us. As television viewers, we identify with certain characters and are indifferent towards others. For that reason I am now done with my speculation. I accept that your feelings and beliefs on this subject are real and genuine and I thank you for presenting them.
[quote=ginger;57519]Way to set the record straight Katelynn! But there are some people in this world that can't stand to seeing someone being nice weather it is genuine or fake. I don't think sarah's attitude with JD means much of anything because it doesn't matter how sweet of a person someone is if you upset them they will react![/quote]
exactly what I meant about blinders:rolleyes:
[QUOTE]Later, Chet's comment about "trying to enjoy their last bowl of waffle cereal before Ryan goes to Iraq" was a little silly.[/QUOTE]
It was beyond silly. It was a guy who has played many pranks on other people being unable to tolerate a prank played on him. By inserting that line about Iraq, he tried to elevate the prank to a far more morally reprehensible thing to do. What he was really doing was taking advantage of Ryan's situation to try to guilt people, and it struck me as not only extremely petty but as extremely lacking in self-awareness. I'm also not at all sure that Chet [I]realized [/I]that it was over the top to add that on, and that, to me, is problematic. The patronizing moralizing he tried to pull is unflattering on anyone, but particularly on someone who is guilty of things that are similar, if not worse offenses.
If Chet was truly upset over the timing of the prank, rather than the prank itself, or felt that the timing being inappropriate made what would have been an annoying prank unacceptable, there were better ways for him to express that.
[QUOTE=MrsPlumBean;57617]It was beyond silly. It was a guy who has played many pranks on other people being unable to tolerate a prank played on him. By inserting that line about Iraq, he tried to elevate the prank to a far more morally reprehensible thing to do. What he was really doing was taking advantage of Ryan's situation to try to guilt people, and it struck me as not only extremely petty but as extremely lacking in self-awareness. I'm also not at all sure that Chet [I]realized [/I]that it was over the top to add that on, and that, to me, is problematic. The patronizing moralizing he tried to pull is unflattering on anyone, but particularly on someone who is guilty of things that are similar, if not worse offenses.
If Chet was truly upset over the timing of the prank, rather than the prank itself, or felt that the timing being inappropriate made what would have been an annoying prank unacceptable, there were better ways for him to express that.[/QUOTE]
Agree. We can all make our points and others will counterpoint. Neither the men nor the women distinguished themselves. The bottom line here, though, is that the guys knew the final prank was coming, and the way they responded to it is all they pathetically had to give. It was a time to be brilliant, but they were pedestrian at best. You can tie a fancy bow on a pig, but it's sadly still a pig.
At best, "pranking" is high school or college freshman behavior. Beyond that, it really is not much more than a demonstration of arrested development. All of the guys are good and interesting people who somehow, when brought together, become something less the sum of their individual personalities. The women were perhaps unique in the history of TRW -- something that was discussed at the reunion taping, but didn't make it into the edit. The closeness of their bond was a storyline BMP could not find a way to tell, or didn't want to tell, anywhere in 13 episodes.
[quote=V1man;57619]Agree. We can all make our points and others will counterpoint. Neither the men nor the women distinguished themselves. The bottom line here, though, is that the guys knew the final prank was coming, and the way they responded to it is all they pathetically had to give. It was a time to be brilliant, but they were pedestrian at best. You can tie a fancy bow on a pig, but it's sadly still a pig.
At best, "pranking" is high school or college freshman behavior. Beyond that, it really is not much more than a demonstration of arrested development. All of the guys are good and interesting people who somehow, when brought together, become something less the sum of their individual personalities. [B]The women were perhaps unique in the history of TRW -- something that was discussed at the reunion taping, but didn't make it into the edit. The closeness of their bond was a storyline BMP could not find a way to tell, or didn't want to tell, anywhere in 13 episodes[/B].[/quote]
I know what you mean most other seasons of the real world the women didn't like each other or they only like one but not the other. It's a shame that BMP couldn't/ didn't want to tell the story of the girls bond.
I wonder if their bond came as a surprise to BMP. There was no "odd one out", as they were probably expecting. None of the girls were afraid of Sarah because she has tattoos and likes to wear black. Baya wasn't left out because she was too "Girl Next Door" compared to the others, Katelyn's story didn't scare any of them away or make them like her any less, and everyone was accepting of Devyn's age/race.
In essence, despite how different they all are they formed this friendship with eachother that I am sure will last a lifetime. Whereas on other seasons it is obvious that people are bonded strictly by the experience of the show, it is different with these four.
I'm very happy for them, and the magnitude of it does not escape me. Can you imagine for a moment if any ONE of them had been put on the Sydney cast instead of Brooklyn?
[quote=ginger;57521]I will say that I do wish the girls in the house would have stepped up for themselves when Ryan was screaming at them for no real reason after scott told ryan what Baya said. One of the girls should have told him he was[COLOR=red] WAY[/COLOR] out of line![/quote]
There was no getting through to him. Sarah was told by Ryan to shut the **** up and then told again to shut the **** up again. Ryan only allowed Baya to speak in that situation.
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