I have been watching the old episodes of challenges lately...I miss the eliminations that really seemed to be hard to call (just watched Derrick and Syrus in Ball Brawl). I wonder what sort of elimination challenges they will have?
[quote=Seannnn;39839]Jeezz People, this is Speculation!!!!!! I knew the first 6, now I know the first 12!!!!! People Please!!!! Isnt this suppose to be spolier free? Please correct me of Im wrong and direct me towards the rite thread.[/quote]
I was going to post the same thing.
I also thought this was a spoiler free thread. I have read a lot of spoilers, but I didn't remember the elimination order. I also think I don't want to know who wins to leave something as a surprise. If this thread is for discussion of what people think will happen due to the spoilers, I will have to remember to stay out.
What is the projected ending date for this challenge again?
[quote=RW561015;39850]I also thought this was a spoiler free thread. I have read a lot of spoilers, but I didn't remember the elimination order. I also think I don't want to know who wins to leave something as a surprise. If this thread is for discussion of what people think will happen due to the spoilers, I will have to remember to stay out.
What is the projected ending date for this challenge again?[/quote]
I believe deember 7th
It is just about impossible to moderate our spoiler and speculation threads because some insist on speculating about spoilers. No matter where we move things, some people are unhappy. One option is to delete all comments where there is any doubt in our minds, but I'm not in favor of that solution.
Frankly, people who insist on speculating [I]ad nauseum[/I] about spoilers when they haven't a clue only add to the confusion. Some people only read back few comments in the spoiler thread and assume everything they've read in the spoiler discussion thread has happened, when it clearly has not -- like the order of elimination. No one has a clue if we have deliberately placed names out of order in the spoiler thread.
On the other hand, if you come to this board to read the challenge speculation thread, I must wonder why you are here. There clearly is a challenge going on and we have named the players openly. If it were technically possible to do so, I would create to separate groups, one for the spoiler discussion and one for pure conjecture. We could each bore each other to tears in short order, unless our sole purpose was to regal others with our intelligence. Not reason to be bored then...
I totally agree, but Im just taking speculation for what it is. You shouldn't ( and I know you wont) have to weed this thread apart. I will just try my hardest not to visit this section anymore,lol
I know the easiest thing for me is when there is a list... I don't read it! LOL. I like seeing who's gone home for the first half of the challenge, so I can judge if I will even like watching the challenge, then I don't read anything else when it's half way through (right about now). Seeing who's left gives me hope though that at least the second half of this challenge could be interesting on the guys' side, and the first half on the girls'.
Would it be cool if the elimnation process is a little different. For example, the last person lets say Annessa, she then needs a male partner for the duel, so she picks Mark, then annessa picks who she is going to face off with let's say Robin, then Robin has to pick a male to help her. Then they all go to the duel so Mark and annessa have to work together to take out robin and the male she pick. The losing team female goes home. I hope that made sense LOL.
[quote=producer88;40278]Would it be cool if the elimnation process is a little different. For example, the last person lets say Annessa, she then needs a male partner for the duel, so she picks Mark, then annessa picks who she is going to face off with let's say Robin, then Robin has to pick a male to help her. Then they all go to the duel so Mark and annessa have to work together to take out robin and the male she pick. The losing team female goes home. I hope that made sense LOL.[/quote]
that made sense to me, lol! I like that idea --I think its pretty cool twist. What would make it more interesting is that you could not pick a male that was picked in the previous duel--OR a male that you picked last. Because it would not exactly seem fair for someone like Landon to always be picked by a female. Or it would be obvious for lets say Brad and tori team...that would get boring, so lets say Tori is in the duel and because brad picked her for his last duel, she could not pick him....it would just make for more interesting game, and make it harder for a strong alliance to dominate the game.
also, what if the male that was teamed up with the sent home female is automatically placed on the next males duel up for elimination. That would definately make it so that theopposite *** partner would really be fighting for her to stay. Because if he has nothing to lose, who is to say he will actually give his all in her duel
That's true it makes it more interesting. I also like the idea if the guy loses he's going to be in the next duel, because let's say Mark wanted robin to lose and she picked him, he will just give up and lose. I just hope whatever the twist is on this duel it will be really exciting, and it will bring lots of drama.
[QUOTE=producer88;40278]Would it be cool if the elimnation process is a little different. For example, the last person lets say Annessa, she then needs a male partner for the duel, so she picks Mark, then annessa picks who she is going to face off with let's say Robin, then Robin has to pick a male to help her. Then they all go to the duel so Mark and annessa have to work together to take out robin and the male she pick. The losing team female goes home. I hope that made sense LOL.[/QUOTE]
It's very similar to what they did on the island for one elimination with Paula, Jenn, and I forget the third. It would make sense and I can also see them using partners for the missions as well like they did in the first duel.
[quote=LilysMom;53191]Good analogy, but here is the problem with that....after the first time my dog attacked someone....we shot him.[/quote]
Not that I'm not sorry for your dog, but that right there was a great statement.
[quote=OtherPplsDrama;53289]Not that I'm not sorry for your dog, but that right there was a great statement.[/quote]
Thank you OPD!
This is the truth it was very sad, but it is kind of the same thing. My dog attacked a child, much smaller than him. Granted this little boy kicked him in the face, but it was not right, and he bit that little boy right in the face. It was scary, we are very lucky, they were friends and did not sue us. You see with my daycare the dog had had enough of kids ****** with him all the time, and he just snapped. This is much how I view the Adam and CT thing, Adam being the kids and CT being the dog. It still does not make it right
How i want it to go.
5) Mark eliminated by Landon
4) MJ eliminated by Evan
3) Evan comes in last
2) Landon comes in second
1) Brad comes in first.
5) Diem eliminated by Rachel
4) Aneesa eliminated by Rachel
3) Brittany comes in third
2) Tori comes in second
1) Rachel wins
[quote=LilysMom;53302]Thank you OPD!
This is the truth it was very sad, but it is kind of the same thing. My dog attacked a child, much smaller than him. Granted this little boy kicked him in the face, but it was not right, and he bit that little boy right in the face. It was scary, we are very lucky, they were friends and did not sue us. You see with my daycare the dog had had enough of kids ****** with him all the time, and he just snapped. This is much how I view the Adam and CT thing, Adam being the kids and CT being the dog. It still does not make it right[/quote]
Surely the wizard Stanford graduate has more brains and common sense than a small child. He should know better than anybody on these shows as to what CT's limits are and what buttons not to push. If CT told him not to touch him, he should've listened. People on these shows shouldn't have to walk on egg shells around CT, I agree, but when you physically put your hands on him in a threatening way like Adam did multiple times, I have no issue with CT defending himself. CT had reasonable provocation to do what he did and I can't wait to hear the little******* like Mark Long talk **** about CT when this airs when he was sitting in the background like a chickenshit dressed in drag.
So I guess, from what you've said, you're implying that Adam, who is half CT's size, was a THREAT to CT? I never thought I'd hear that, lol. It seems to me CT is the type of person who begs for an excuse to turn a situation into a cage match. It might just be me, but that seems a bit irrational and ridiculous. The situation doesn't look any better, considering the fact that Adam was the smallest guy in the Challenge. Yeah I mean look at Adam, and that intimidating beard of his. I'd definately have to fend him off when the chance arises. Can't be too careful.
[QUOTE=Bucky;53662]Surely the wizard Stanford graduate has more brains and common sense than a small child. He should know better than anybody on these shows as to what CT's limits are and what buttons not to push. If CT told him not to touch him, he should've listened. People on these shows shouldn't have to walk on egg shells around CT, I agree, but when you physically put your hands on him in a threatening way like Adam did multiple times, I have no issue with CT defending himself. CT had reasonable provocation to do what he did and I can't wait to hear the little******* like Mark Long talk **** about CT when this airs when he was sitting in the background like a chickenshit dressed in drag.[/QUOTE]
Bucky, first, who are you to call Mark Long a little *****? It's such an classless expression and has the slimy feeling of other websites. Further, I'm surprised that you can make such a dramatic conclusion regarding CT from so few frames of video. Your powers of observation amaze me.
What I know of the incident from first person accounts of those present, Adam's actions, though perhaps unwise, did not constitute a physical threat to CT; yet, CT's response required the production crew to put down their equipment and subdue a fully enraged (roid enhanced?) CT to ensure he did not inflict mortal harm to Adam.
The real failures here are on the part of BMP for nominating CT for Duel II and MTV for approving his participation. The cast contract requires the company to provide adequate on-site security. The other cast members, including Mark Long, are contracted actors for the purposes of producing a television series. They are not there to act in lieu of BMP's security personnel. The intervention of any of them which resulted in an injury could have been called negligence by BMP and resulted in non-payment of their appearance fee.
Given CT's full history (including off-camera behavior), the executive producer didn't have to do much due diligence to determine that CT was likely to be a threat to other cast members. It is my opinion that there is enough evidence for Adam King to sue BMP and MTV.
[quote=Bucky;53662]Surely the wizard Stanford graduate has more brains and common sense than a small child. He should know better than anybody on these shows as to what CT's limits are and what buttons not to push. If CT told him not to touch him, he should've listened. People on these shows shouldn't have to walk on egg shells around CT, I agree, but when you physically put your hands on him in a threatening way like Adam did multiple times, I have no issue with CT defending himself. CT had reasonable provocation to do what he did and I can't wait to hear the little******* like Mark Long talk **** about CT when this airs when he was sitting in the background like a chickenshit dressed in drag.[/quote]
1. Some graduates of schools such as Stanford are extremely book smart but have no clue when it comes to social skills. Not saying that Adam has no social skills, but just because he went to a school like Stanford does not mean he is completely well-rounded.
2. Threatening way? From what I saw (and I admit I have only seen the trailer once), he put his hands on his waist. How is that deemed threatening?
3. The point is that CT is "defending himself" in a physical and angry way instead of just walking away. He chooses to get sloshed and get himself in ridiculous arguments that escalate into violence. People can talk all they want about CT...because most of them haven't gotten kicked off a show for punching someone. This is to the point where EVERYONE knows CT's buttons. I know CT's buttons. It seems like at this point, it's easier to get rid of him than to compete against him...so they do what they know will get him riled up and kicked off. I'd do it too.
4. Your "reasonable provocation" claim holds no water. Reasonable provocation would have a reasonable person losing self-control. CT, as far as I can see, is not reasonable and does not exercise self-control.
5. How do your knees feel?
End rant. I'm going to keep my mouth shut now until I see the entire edited incident fold out on television.
[QUOTE=molds13;53679]1. Some graduates of schools such as Stanford are extremely book smart but have no clue when it comes to social skills. Not saying that Adam has no social skills, but just because he went to a school like Stanford does not mean he is completely well-rounded.
2. Threatening way? From what I saw (and I admit I have only seen the trailer once), he put his hands on his waist. How is that deemed threatening?
3. The point is that CT is "defending himself" in a physical and angry way instead of just walking away. He chooses to get sloshed and get himself in ridiculous arguments that escalate into violence. People can talk all they want about CT...because most of them haven't gotten kicked off a show for punching someone. This is to the point where EVERYONE knows CT's buttons. I know CT's buttons. It seems like at this point, it's easier to get rid of him than to compete against him...so they do what they know will get him riled up and kicked off. I'd do it too.
4. Your "reasonable provocation" claim holds no water. Reasonable provocation would have a reasonable person losing self-control. CT, as far as I can see, is not reasonable and does not exercise self-control.
[B]5. How do your knees feel?[/B]
End rant. I'm going to keep my mouth shut now until I see the entire edited incident fold out on television.[/QUOTE]
B, this line should win a vevmo.com tshirt prize. :torch:
[quote=Bucky;53662]Surely the wizard Stanford graduate has more brains and common sense than a small child. He should know better than anybody on these shows as to what CT's limits are and what buttons not to push. If CT told him not to touch him, he should've listened. People on these shows shouldn't have to walk on egg shells around CT, I agree, but when you physically put your hands on him in a threatening way like Adam did multiple times, I have no issue with CT defending himself. [/quote]
Bucky, Do you personally know CT? If so could you please explain to me how Adam could ever be a physical threat to CT?
I could walk down a dark alley at night with 2 random men at night, and I would not be intimidated by Adam 's size. I would however be intimidated by CT's size.
I have always been a CT fan from the beginning, go back and check my first posts here, I have always liked him, and found that he was completely misunderstood. For example, his relationship with Diem was so sweet, and showed that he did have a soft side.
But there comes a point when you have to say enough is enough. I was really disappointed when he punched Davis like he did, because I really wanted to see him on that challenge. Davis is also another great example of size, he is a small man as well. So why is it that CT is threatened by these men that are half his size?
Don't get me wrong, I wanted to see him come in this challenge and really do something this time. If he stuck around I would think him to be virtually unbeatable in the Duels. But after watching the very minimal footage that we are being teased with, I am very disappointed. We could sit here all day and say Adam was egging it on, or Adam knew how to push CT's buttons. But the bottom line is CT has senselessly punched 2 people in the last 2 challenges he has been on.
[quote=LilysMom;53714]Bucky, Do you personally know CT? If so could you please explain to me how Adam could ever be a physical threat to CT? [/quote]
Aww, looks like that won't be happening.
I agree with everything you said though!
I just don't understand how some one could defend a ruthless person like CT. There are always some people who will defend even the devil himself i guess
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