The Island: MTV - Kelly Anne (Spoilers)

[quote=V1man;25790]Past friendships, such as they may have been, don't necessarily mean anything in the context of "The Island." You may have over-reached. ;)[/quote] Okay. I knew it might have been too far, but okay. I love how you can throw all the old social rules right out the window for this Challenge. I am just wondering how she could have done so well socially if she is fighting with the "in-crowd."

[quote=V1man;25843]Here's how... Off camera: "I love you guys, but I need the money. Please don't take anything personally." I'll still love you after it is all over, and maybe next time you will think I'm strong enough to be a part of your pre-challenge alliance." It's actually not at all difficult, especially if you have taken advice from a crafty challenge veteran who holds the challenge appearance record.[/quote] So KA was getting advice from Beth before-hand? Smart girl.

[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;25857]So KA was getting advice from Beth before-hand? Smart girl.[/QUOTE] Beth is definitely a smart player and quite good as the outcast, but how many has she actually won? An appearance record isn't as valuable as a victory

[quote=hpkhg45;25869]Beth is definitely a smart player and quite good as the outcast, but how many has she actually won? An appearance record isn't as valuable as a victory[/quote] I guess it depends on what you consider victory: Walking away with your dignity and knowing you played the game how [I]you [/I]see best, or feeding into whatever BS production tells you to make a better show.

[quote=hpkhg45;25869]Beth is definitely a smart player and quite good as the outcast, but how many has she actually won? An appearance record isn't as valuable as a victory[/quote] Well, apparently her advice was worth something, considering KA got pretty far for a newbie.

[quote=maybeshesright;25872]Well, apparently her advice was worth something, considering KA got pretty far for a newbie.[/quote] Yeah it gets hard for a newbie or someone who is generally disliked to get far because they can be targeted fairly early and fairly often

[QUOTE=maybeshesright;25872]Well, apparently her advice was worth something, considering KA got pretty far for a newbie.[/QUOTE] That is very true. I guess Beth really knows what she's doing.

[QUOTE=V1man;25877]Debating with me on the subject of a challenge is futile. It's like bringing a butter knife to an exchange of nucs. ;) Think outside the box, or get a new box! It's not about winning for the new kids, since their contracts are structured differently, it's about surviving as long as possible or going home poor. They go in knowing that since the probability of their winning is near zero, their objective is 1) to be "good TV, and [B]2) to be invited again. #2 is already accomplished. [/B] We'll have to judge #1 for ourselves when we see The Island.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to start a debate. Have they already started casting for the next challenge? If so, is there any info that can be revealed at this time?

[quote=hpkhg45;25878]I'm not trying to start a debate. Have they already started casting for the next challenge? If so, is there any info that can be revealed at this time?[/quote] Easy killer, one at a time ;) Do you know how LONG we've been working on figuring out this one?!

[quote=V1man;25843]Here's how... Off camera: "I love you guys, but I need the money. Please don't take anything personally." I'll still love you after it is all over, and maybe next time you will think I'm strong enough to be a part of your pre-challenge alliance." It's actually not at all difficult, especially if you have taken advice from a crafty challenge veteran who holds the challenge appearance record.[/quote] Okay. So she is pretty smart in what she's doing. Well, that is good for her. Beth gave her advice? For a second I thought you meant Vernoica since they are tied, and I was like what? Beth isn't a bad competitor, but her reputation preceds her. She is very strong, manipulative, and smart. But everyone wants her gone for the simple fact that she doesn't take things from anyone. Same as Coral. KellyAnne taking advice is very smart, but I would choose to take it from someone who likes to fly under the radar. [quote]It's not about winning for the new kids, since their contracts are structured differently, it's about surviving as long as possible or going home poor. They go in knowing that since the probability of their winning is near zero, their objective is 1) to be "good TV, and 2) to be invited again. #2 is already accomplished. We'll have to judge #1 for ourselves when we see The Island.[/quote] True. I had always thought of that the same way. I am pretty sure most newbies knkow that they are going to be targeted from early on, unless you are some stellar athlete. Ahhh, so we know some people are back.

[quote=V1man;25936]It would be remarkably short-sighted to think that Beth's advice would ever be one-dimensional, or how she would play the game. I stunned that you would even think that Beth would give advice that would land another in the mess that BMP intentionally creates for her before each challenge she does.[/quote] So all of her drama is planned before the Challenge starts? I mean I knew some of the stuff was created, but everything? Although, I do think it is smart of her to take some pointers from some true Challenge Vets. I would collect a lot of info from everybody though. People like Brad, Coral, Aneesa, etc. People who know what it takes and have proven to make it far.

[quote=hpkhg45;25878]I'm not trying to start a debate. Have they already started casting for the next challenge? If so, is there any info that can be revealed at this time?[/quote] Let's have time to enjoy this challenge first.

[quote=bratty;25958]Let's have time to enjoy this challenge first.[/quote] I agree. I feel like it is rolling around way to slow for me. Like I feel like it is so close, but the time has really rolled on by very slow. I don't like KellyAnne, but I really want to see another dominant Rookie.

[quote=Dartagnan;25963]I agree. I feel like it is rolling around way to slow for me. Like I feel like it is so close, but the time has really rolled on by very slow. I don't like KellyAnne, but I really want to see another dominant Rookie.[/quote] Exactly. KellyAnne doesn't bother me, she's okay. I know the time that it has taken to get to this Challenge seems like forever.

[QUOTE=Dartagnan;25963]I agree. I feel like it is rolling around way to slow for me. Like I feel like it is so close, but the time has really rolled on by very slow. I don't like KellyAnne, but I really want to see another dominant Rookie.[/QUOTE] Yea your right in letting us watch this challenge first but its been a long wait since G3.

[quote=hpkhg45;25967]Yea your right in letting us watch this challenge first but its been a long wait since G3.[/quote] It has, but the wait is getting closer to being over.

Someone should make on of those countdown things for the challenge

[quote=hpkhg45;25967]Yea your right in letting us watch this challenge first but its been a long wait since G3.[/quote] I feel that we have actually had a lot this year. Since January we have had The Gauntlet 3, The Real World, and another Challenge. And KellyAnne bothers me only because of her actions on Sydney. I am looking forward to seeing her, but Rachel getting eliminated loses points in my book.

[quote=Dartagnan;25974]I feel that we have actually had a lot this year. Since January we have had The Gauntlet 3, The Real World, and another Challenge. And KellyAnne bothers me only because of her actions on Sydney. I am looking forward to seeing her, but Rachel getting eliminated loses points in my book.[/quote] As it should Dart, because no one should send Rachel home. You know I didn't even realize that we did have the G3, Real World and now this, it just seems like its been a long time since a challenge.

[quote=bratty;25977]As it should Dart, because no one should send Rachel home. You know I didn't even realize that we did have the G3, Real World and now this, it just seems like its been a long time since a challenge.[/quote] I mean I have to give credit where credit is due, but I don't want to see her go home. It is just the fact that they are moving on, and older cast members are going to be less abundant. So by the time we finally get a cast member who is dramatic and hasn't been around in a while and she gets sent home. I think it has seemed longer because we have had so much of BMP shows this year, that it feels like a while. Since KellyAnne takes out Rachel, I don't want it to be just her. I would rather her take out more than one.

[quote=Dartagnan;25974] I am looking forward to seeing her, but Rachel getting eliminated loses points in my book.[/quote] Really? You have NO IDEA what the circumstances will be!

Yeah, exactly if she is going to be the dominate player let her totally go for it. And I feel the same way, I miss the old players, the new players just don't seem to have as much charisma as some of the older players. Too bad, the older players as they go on should do "family" challenges.

[quote=bratty;25994]Too bad, the older players as they go on should do "family" challenges.[/quote] lol, what like family feud?

[quote=maybeshesright;26002]lol, what like family feud?[/quote] I'd rather see a Double Dare type format! :rofl:

[quote=maybeshesright;26002]lol, what like family feud?[/quote] Like a team/survival/skill/challenge reality like show the old crew comes with there significant other, maybe another member (like a Amazing Race Family), but the family has to work as a team. Nah, I don't like that idea, they should just bring them all back every few years.

[quote=bratty;25994]Yeah, exactly if she is going to be the dominate player let her totally go for it. And I feel the same way, I miss the old players, the new players just don't seem to have as much charisma as some of the older players. Too bad, the older players as they go on should do "family" challenges.[/quote] Same here. Not saying she is the dominant player, but you have to be somewhat strong physically and mentally to take out someone like Rachel. So, since she took out Rachel why not make your mark and take out others? [quote]Really? You have NO IDEA what the circumstances will be![/quote] Yeah, really. Like I said, I just want to see Rachel again and I would really like to see her stay longer. But I will give my credit to KellyAnne.