maybe production thought ninja, cara, and maybe even matty had a chance to get top 3 and that’s why they did it that way.. hell, when they only did 1 winner for vendettas cara beat out guys (kyle&zach) and won.. maybe they thought this season could be the same
Or they wanted a male to win after 2 seasons of two females winners.
why not stop the twists and give it to 2 people though...
Not sure why there’s so much hate for Mattie she lost to three champs and the three people most people said were gonna win. Laurel didn’t win in her first season, Cara and Evelyn went home first on their seasons. Not saying Mattie will be as good as them but a finals appearance with eliminations wins as a debut is good and now that she’s seen a finals she knows what to expect
honestly nothing about this season excites me. The cast is lackluster the final screwed the women & I don’t see much drama from this cast. Ready for 34 when my girls Kailah Marie Da’vonne Kam & Ninja Natalie take over
My girl did that. Rookie of the year. Know that. This genderless bullshit free-for-all tranny of a final has no reflection on the fact she was the most consistent girl all season long. Proud of my girl in every way possible. We will ALWAYS stan. ❤️
Vendettas final was slightly more fair as they took the top 2 females and top 2 males to the final part.Cara completed part 1 in fourth place behind Zach, Kyle & Leroy. Girls don’t really have a chance in genderless finals unless they allow the top 2 of each gender to move forward.
Not sure why there’s so much hate for Mattie she lost to three champs and the three people most people said were gonna win. Laurel didn’t win in her first season, Cara and Evelyn went home first on their seasons. Not saying Mattie will be as good as them but a finals appearance with eliminations wins as a debut is good and now that she’s seen a finals she knows what to expect
oh tea, u can tell it’s from all the ppl that were worried Mattie would beat their faves, it’s almost like they all let out a collective sigh of relief she didn’t win so now they’re straight to trashing her lmao
maybe production thought ninja, cara, and maybe even matty had a chance to get top 3 and that’s why they did it that way.. hell, when they only did 1 winner for vendettas cara beat out guys (kyle&zach) and won.. maybe they thought this season could be the same
Or they wanted a male to win after 2 seasons of two females winners.
that could be true. what i said could be true too because even if that was the case, there would still be a 2nd and third place. they were probably expecting at least 1 girl to get top 3, or maybe they didnt gaf.. who knows
They just need to stop the twists. All 3 of the last seasons have left a sour taste in my mouth. I get it.. drama and all that. But it just seems to **** people off more than get people talking.
All ya'll trashing Mattie, she left with the same amount of money as Ninja, Cara, and Georgia. Money is all that matters in this game, and the females got screwed.
I’m so proud of Theo. At this point I could care less about anyone else.
But I will say they need to stop with these weird final placings. Needs to be top 3 males and top 3 women. & everyone walks away with money again. This was pretty much rigged for the women to walk away with nothing and that definitley isn’t fair. Should’ve been a new champ for the men and the women
If Cara didn’t win Vendettas I don’t think this final would’ve been just one winner, they saw that it worked on Vendettas because Cara got the win so they thought it would work again
Not to take away from Cara's win (don't hate me IF lol), but if the final was truly individual from the start and wasn't in 2 stages, there's a good chance that Zach and Kyle would've run faster. When you know you're safe for the 2nd stage there's not really an incentive to kill yourself running as hard as you can if that makes sense. I'm just saying if it was a straight final all the way through I'm not fully convinced Cara would've been the winner, which is why they should separate men and women.
I def disagree lmaooo But thats because Leroy, Zach and Kyle were pretty much neck and neck. Zach finished the first part 5 mins faster than Cara and Kyle finished 2 mins faster (and Leroy less than 2 mins). But for the 2nd part, she finished at least 30 minutes before Zach did. So even if it was one constant run, she would have won.
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
I'd actually say this final was fairer(more fair? Idk) than Vendettas just because they didn't drop their times and reset. I hate Zach and Cara but Zach won Vendettas, same with Kenny/Wes and probably a few others I don't feel like thinking about
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
honestly nothing about this season excites me. The cast is lackluster the final screwed the women & I don’t see much drama from this cast. Ready for 34 when my girls Kailah Marie Da’vonne Kam & Ninja Natalie take over
You are here saying Mattie flopped? When none of those girls you listed would beat 3 champs, Theo, Turbo and Ninja on a final lol
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
how so? you think day and tori are good? lol oh and she didn't even beat day herself, it was all kayleigh
Mattie did THAT. Genderless final or not, placing 3rd for the girls and winning multiple challenges / eliminations while your faves are sitting home watching the queen on old episodes of Party Down South.
honestly nothing about this season excites me. The cast is lackluster the final screwed the women & I don’t see much drama from this cast. Ready for 34 when my girls Kailah Marie Da’vonne Kam & Ninja Natalie take over
You are here saying Mattie flopped? When none of those girls you listed would beat 3 champs, Theo, Turbo and Ninja on a final lol
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
When Tori was a mercenary and didnt had any reason to give her all....Baby try again.
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
how so? you think day and tori are good? lol oh and she didn't even beat day herself, it was all kayleigh
not great but compared to Natalie and Julia definitely lol
I'd actually say this final was fairer(more fair? Idk) than Vendettas just because they didn't drop their times and reset. I hate Zach and Cara but Zach won Vendettas, same with Kenny/Wes and probably a few others I don't feel like thinking about
Zach finished the first part 5 minutes faster than Cara, Cara finished the 2nd part 30 minutes faster than Zach. So no, Queen Cara won Vendettas and that final was one with an equaliser.
Bananasisoverrated wrote:If Cara didn’t win Vendettas I don’t think this final would’ve been just one winner, they saw that it worked on Vendettas because Cara got the win so they thought it would work again
Not to take away from Cara's win (don't hate me IF lol), but if the final was truly individual from the start and wasn't in 2 stages, there's a good chance that Zach and Kyle would've run faster. When you know you're safe for the 2nd stage there's not really an incentive to kill yourself running as hard as you can if that makes sense. I'm just saying if it was a straight final all the way through I'm not fully convinced Cara would've been the winner, which is why they should separate men and women.
I def disagree lmaooo But thats because Leroy, Zach and Kyle were pretty much neck and neck. Zach finished the first part 5 mins faster than Cara and Kyle finished 2 mins faster (and Leroy less than 2 mins). But for the 2nd part, she finished at least 30 minutes before Zach did. So even if it was one constant run, she would have won.
Fair. But you see my point kind of in a straight through final (not a stage or time-stop final) there's more incentive to work harder the whole time and that affects things and might affect the outcome.
I mean obviously not a Cara fan but theme/twists the last 2 seasons have screwed her too so you get what I mean (being on a F/F team and then an individual final against men). I'm just advocating for male vs. male and female vs. female at the end of the day.
I'd actually say this final was fairer(more fair? Idk) than Vendettas just because they didn't drop their times and reset. I hate Zach and Cara but Zach won Vendettas, same with Kenny/Wes and probably a few others I don't feel like thinking about
Zach finished the first part 5 minutes faster than Cara, Cara finished the 2nd part 30 minutes faster than Zach. So no, Queen Cara won Vendettas and that final was one with an equaliser.
Equalizers are boring though. Don't like Zach either but he should've won too.
TeenageTragedy wrote:ooo Mattie is such a flop for dominating in elims, making the final and not winning (note my sarcasm)
"dominating in elims" she beat Natalie and Julia right? Big whoop
That's not the only elimination she saw.
Im just saying thats all the info we have. She beat Natalie and Julia which is not that impressive and beat Georgia in the final also not that impressive
Jesus eddie. You do not stop when you get on a topic do you? lol wtf is wrong with mattie? She is clearly a elimination beast. She made a final in her first season. strong season.
Beating Natalie and Julia in an elimination makes you a elimination beast? Okayyyyy lmao
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
how so? you think day and tori are good? lol oh and she didn't even beat day herself, it was all kayleigh
not great but compared to Natalie and Julia definitely lol
then we are at an impasse cus i think natalie > tori
why not stop the twists and give it to 2 people though...
So did they change partners at some point or after Kyle, Paulie, Dee and Nany were eliminated the game became individual?
Not sure why there’s so much hate for Mattie she lost to three champs and the three people most people said were gonna win. Laurel didn’t win in her first season, Cara and Evelyn went home first on their seasons. Not saying Mattie will be as good as them but a finals appearance with eliminations wins as a debut is good and now that she’s seen a finals she knows what to expect
honestly nothing about this season excites me. The cast is lackluster the final screwed the women & I don’t see much drama from this cast. Ready for 34 when my girls Kailah Marie Da’vonne Kam & Ninja Natalie take over
They should’ve had the final 2 teams compete or something. I guarantee with an all male final 3 I don’t think we’ll see another sole winner again.
My girl did that. Rookie of the year. Know that. This genderless bullshit free-for-all tranny of a final has no reflection on the fact she was the most consistent girl all season long. Proud of my girl in every way possible. We will ALWAYS stan. ❤️
Vendettas final was slightly more fair as they took the top 2 females and top 2 males to the final part.
Cara completed part 1 in fourth place behind Zach, Kyle & Leroy.
Girls don’t really have a chance in genderless finals unless they allow the top 2 of each gender to move forward.
oh tea, u can tell it’s from all the ppl that were worried Mattie would beat their faves, it’s almost like they all let out a collective sigh of relief she didn’t win so now they’re straight to trashing her lmao
that could be true. what i said could be true too because even if that was the case, there would still be a 2nd and third place. they were probably expecting at least 1 girl to get top 3, or maybe they didnt gaf.. who knows
They just need to stop the twists. All 3 of the last seasons have left a sour taste in my mouth. I get it.. drama and all that. But it just seems to **** people off more than get people talking.
All ya'll trashing Mattie, she left with the same amount of money as Ninja, Cara, and Georgia. Money is all that matters in this game, and the females got screwed.
When InterFan and I hyped davonne last season and had people mad >>>>>>>>>
I’m so proud of Theo. At this point I could care less about anyone else.
But I will say they need to stop with these weird final placings. Needs to be top 3 males and top 3 women. & everyone walks away with money again. This was pretty much rigged for the women to walk away with nothing and that definitley isn’t fair. Should’ve been a new champ for the men and the women
I def disagree lmaooo But thats because Leroy, Zach and Kyle were pretty much neck and neck. Zach finished the first part 5 mins faster than Cara and Kyle finished 2 mins faster (and Leroy less than 2 mins). But for the 2nd part, she finished at least 30 minutes before Zach did. So even if it was one constant run, she would have won.
ppl call kam an elim beast and she beat natalie, da'vonne and tori so i dont get why it shouldn't be the same for mattie
I'd actually say this final was fairer(more fair? Idk) than Vendettas just because they didn't drop their times and reset. I hate Zach and Cara but Zach won Vendettas, same with Kenny/Wes and probably a few others I don't feel like thinking about
Beating Da'vonne and Tori is way more impressive than beating Natalie and Julie lmao
Lmaooo Queen proved them all wrong. And again this season as the third vet female left standing despite having one of the scrawniests guy
You are here saying Mattie flopped? When none of those girls you listed would beat 3 champs, Theo, Turbo and Ninja on a final lol
how so? you think day and tori are good? lol oh and she didn't even beat day herself, it was all kayleigh
Mattie did THAT. Genderless final or not, placing 3rd for the girls and winning multiple challenges / eliminations while your faves are sitting home watching the queen on old episodes of Party Down South.
mental illness
When Tori was a mercenary and didnt had any reason to give her all....Baby try again.
not great but compared to Natalie and Julia definitely lol
Zach finished the first part 5 minutes faster than Cara, Cara finished the 2nd part 30 minutes faster than Zach. So no, Queen Cara won Vendettas and that final was one with an equaliser.
Fair. But you see my point kind of in a straight through final (not a stage or time-stop final) there's more incentive to work harder the whole time and that affects things and might affect the outcome.
I mean obviously not a Cara fan but theme/twists the last 2 seasons have screwed her too so you get what I mean (being on a F/F team and then an individual final against men). I'm just advocating for male vs. male and female vs. female at the end of the day.
Equalizers are boring though. Don't like Zach either but he should've won too.
then we are at an impasse cus i think natalie > tori
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