[QUOTE=ITCBROOKLYN;387209]No sweetie, both Nia and Averey would have been arrested and charged a lot of money. I think your issue is just with Viacom, MTV, and big business, and it doesn't have anything to do with this situation.[/QUOTE]
Patronizing someone like your their idiotic mother does not nothing but loses you even more respect. Actually, that's not the case at all. Unfortunately, you were not here when V1 was still on the site because he explained it from a lawyer's perspective. Only Nia would have been charged with aggravated assault for using a weapon, the hair dryer, and, while they both might have spent a night in jail to cool off, one of them would have been forced to leave. Who would have been charged with a lot of money? Production would have which is why they did not call the police. Averey and Johnny had already moved out by the time of the "house meeting" to vote on Nia. They were forced to return by Production.
Perhaps you have not listed to the bus driver interviews with Averey, Johnny, and Jordan where they talk about Nia doing drugs, threatening the cast and crew, trying to hire gangbangers to attack people and so on.
So, sweetie, make sure you get your ******* facts straight before you start spouting off.
[QUOTE=ITCBROOKLYN;387210]No Challenge17 they wouldn't. Like I said I been on these boards for a long time, and the mid-west MTV audience spew so much venom when it comes to black cast members. They done it to Coral, Ayanna, Kameelah, etc. There may not be racism per say, but feelings of racial intimidation. So, people feel more comfortable spewing their feeling of hatred on a message board. Just my observation.[/QUOTE]
You still don't know **** about what you are talking about regarding Nia and everything in Portland. None of the black cast members except perhaps for David actually assaulted someone in the fashion that Nia did.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;387205]Let's get the LA situation with Tami and David cleared up first. Irene, their roommate, was a cop and forced David to leave the house. Period.
In Portland, the police should have been called and production did not. In fact, the District Attorney was going to file charges against Nia, BMP,, MTV, Viacom and anyone else involved with the situation but ultimately decided it was not worth it. In the Real World, Nia would have been arrested and, based on the all unedited footage, been put in jail, on trial, and would probably still be serving her sentence. Another thing about the cops being not called both Jordan and Marlon had brought it up before in their earlier disagreement and were explicitly told that Production would not step in or call the police.[/QUOTE]
Were Johnny and Averey not just as capable of calling the cops? If they could spend 30 minutes calling production, they could have called the police. People need to stop pretending that the producers are responsible for them, they're not children. Like the person above said, the producers are just documenting. Something like this could have happened just as easily with real-life roommates, and the situation would be handled by the roommates like adults. People get in fights in real life all the time, and handle the situation independently. Sometimes people choose to bring law enforcement into it, and sometimes they don't.
Likely Johnny and Averey chose not to call the police because, at the very least Averey could have got into legal trouble. At the end of the day, it was their decision.
Production was responsible for the environment of the show. How do we know that Johnny and Averey never attempted to contact the police? No has said anything confirming or denying it.
I would venture a guess that Averey would not have had an issue calling the police given the footage.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;387220]Production was responsible for the environment of the show. How do we know that Johnny and Averey never attempted to contact the police? No has said anything confirming or denying it.
I would venture a guess that Averey would not have had an issue calling the police given the footage.[/QUOTE]
I think it would be mentioned at least once during their interviews seeing as they went into deep detail about everything(including Nia smoking pot during filming, which was far less relevant). And if they did, then why would it matter that production didn't call the police? The outcome would be the same either way.
And according to many people on this board police involvement would have led to Nia serving a long jail stint, and that doesn't seem to be the case, so I don't think the police were involved.
I've read V1's previous comments and I'm not a believer. Sorry. I didn't mean to patronize with "sweetie" Thats really how I talk. A lawyer can make any side seem guilty, that's why they are lawyers. So, that means nothing. Usually there are fines with fighting in public. Here in NJ it is, could be different in Portland. I am not defending Nia's actions. I am defending the producer's right not to step in. That's all. I am the biggest Real World fan and have been watching forever, so you are not educating me on anything here.
Averey was too busy fighting to call the police. I didn't sense she wanted to do that. I don't know why you are acting like Johnny and Averey were these helpless victims.
[QUOTE=ITCBROOKLYN;387227]I've read V1's previous comments and I'm not a believer. Sorry. I didn't mean to patronize with "sweetie" Thats really how I talk. A lawyer can make any side seem guilty, that's why they are lawyers. So, that means nothing. Usually there are fines with fighting in public. Here in NJ it is, could be different in Portland. I am not defending Nia's actions. I am defending the producer's right not to step in. That's all. I am the biggest Real World fan and have been watching forever, so you are not educating me on anything here.[/QUOTE]
They weren't in public....
[QUOTE=PinkRose;387219]Yeah, Coral is a fan favorite....[/QUOTE]
Not during the times of "RW Back 2 New York". I watched people say the most over the top stuff about black people on Tubescan, MTV Message Boards because of Coral getting upset with Mike for that comment. For those of you who watched the show in the original run, you would see how people overreacted.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;387219]Yeah, Coral is a fan favorite....[/QUOTE]
Not during the times of "RW Back 2 New York". I watched people say the most over the top stuff about black people on Tubescan, MTV Message Boards because of Coral getting upset with Mike for that comment. For those of you who watched the show in the original run, you would see how people overreacted.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387232]They weren't in public....[/QUOTE] True, but my point is that this was not an all Nia thing. So, I don't see where you are coming from. I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;387239]Of course it wasn't all Nia, like I said before if Jess or Ana did it the same reaction from the viewers NOTHING to do with race[/QUOTE]
I don't think that is true, but we will agree with disagree.
Just to clarify two things:
1. I was the Real World when the series first started on MTV. I even saw the test reel they did which was shot with 5 people in a New York loft over a weekend.
2. The potential for a lawsuit from the City of Portland was legit and there were news articles to back it up. Plus, V1 is not only a lawyer but has worked behind the scenes on the Real World and the Challenges previously. So I'd bet he knows what he is talking about when comes to situations like these.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;387241]Just to clarify two things:
1. I was the Real World when the series first started on MTV. I even saw the test reel they did which was shot with 5 people in a New York loft over a weekend.
2. The potential for a lawsuit from the City of Portland was legit and there were news articles to back it up. Plus, V1 is not only a lawyer but has worked behind the scenes on the Real World and the Challenges previously. So I'd bet he knows what he is talking about when comes to situations like these.[/QUOTE]
Thanks V1
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;387245]This whole argument has already been hashed out. No need to feed a troll this many months later[/QUOTE]
Now I'm here and it's being hashed out again. I said what I had to say.
Production should have stepped in. I mean, honestly, as soon as the hair-dryer came into play they should have stepped in. I know they're supposed to let things happen naturally, but does that mean that had Nia kept hitting him (or her) with that hair-dryer nothing should be done? Where do you draw the line?
For me the biggest issue with production in this case is that they blatantly changed up their rules. TRW and its sister shows have always had a no tolerance for violence policy. Hell, Trisha got sent home for giving Parisa what basically equates to a love-tap compared to what happened with Nia/Johnny/Averey.
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