Yeah seriously, everyone is calling her a **** and stuff for breaking up with her boyfriend, which by the way for all of you that say this about her, people break up all the time. But anyway, at least she lasted this long which proves that she really did care about her boyfriend and she just decided being with him wasn't what she wanted.
I don't think that she is a ***** for breaking up with him. I just don't like the way that she acted on the phone because she was obviously upset and she just didn't seem to care.
[QUOTE=hpkhg45;113254]Doesn't Ayiiia have a boyfriend? What's with all the hook ups[/QUOTE]
Yeah she did but I think that he was ok with whatever was happening there...she talked about that but I can't remember what she said. It was kind of like a what happens in Cancun stays in Cancun kind of thing...darn i can't remember what she said about her relationship with her boyfriend while in Cancun
I feel like people have this animosity towards Jonna that they wouldn't have towards the others in that house. For instance, CJ cuddled with Emilee before he broke up with his girlfriend and I didn't see anybody criticizing him the way they criticized Jonna for cuddling with guys.
And look at what happens next week. Jonna is a single girl and Aiiya is the one with a man back home. I bet you everyone will just be going on and on about Jonna being a **** though.
i don't get why people have changed their opinion of Jonna so quickly...at first everyone thought that she was chill and cool and now it's like war on jonna.She cleared something up on twitter...she didn't kiss Pat until after she broke up with Matt and the only reason why she was mean on the phone was so he could get over her quicker...I still like Jonna i don't see why alot of people don't like her now.
[QUOTE=hahalollmao3;113353]i don't get why people have changed their opinion of Jonna so quickly...at first everyone thought that she was chill and cool and now it's like war on jonna.She cleared something up on twitter...she didn't kiss Pat until after she broke up with Matt and the only reason why she was mean on the phone was so he could get over her quicker...I still like Jonna i don't see why alot of people don't like her now.[/QUOTE]
I don't like her because of the skeezy way she handled the Jazmine/Pat situation.
Her two-faced gossipy ways are what make her lame. It doesn't matter if her and Jazmine weren't that close. You just don't do things like that to people...period.
If she had handled herself better in that situation, I would still think she was chill and cool.
One comment about the date.....it didn't seem like Jazmine and JR talked about the others but, boy! Did the others talk about them. It seems like its everyone else with the problem now.
[QUOTE=hahalollmao3;113353]i don't get why people have changed their opinion of Jonna so quickly...at first everyone thought that she was chill and cool and now it's like war on jonna.She cleared something up on twitter...she didn't kiss Pat until after she broke up with Matt and[B] the only reason why she was mean on the phone was so he could get over her quicker[/B]...I still like Jonna i don't see why alot of people don't like her now.[/QUOTE]
Thats a mature way to bring a relationship to an end.
[QUOTE=Isabella;113190]Everyone likes Bronne but to me he is sooo annoying and loud and acts stupid. I feel like anytime you get that type of guy who just acts like a loud idiot people go "Oh I love Bronne! Ain't he funny? hahaha". I don't find him funny at all. I can't stand to watch him. And today's dailies are all Bronne, and I'm just not even going to watch. I can't take anymore.
Anyway I can't believe what's about to happen next week. Pat and JR just want camera time, that's what I think. And they are getting more camera time than CJ is right now. a ha ha.
Jonna should have broken up with Matt a long time ago. I don't think she's ready for a serious relationship at this point in her life. Let her have fun. But I didn't think she would go that wild. I'm not surprised about Aiiya though because I've been suspecting that Aiiya has a thing for Jonna.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't have agreed anymore with your comments about Bronne. His humor is something that makes the little kids laugh. It's not one bit funny, and he tries too hard. I'm probably one of the youngest here (15) yet I find it absolutely embarrassing to watch.
I don't think JR is playing Jasmine just for camera time. If so, he would've arrived much earlier. Also, Jasmine said herself that she is still dating JR. Not everybody wants camera time.
[QUOTE=Isabella;113349]I feel like people have this animosity towards Jonna that they wouldn't have towards the others in that house. For instance, CJ cuddled with Emilee before he broke up with his girlfriend and I didn't see anybody criticizing him the way they criticized Jonna for cuddling with guys.
And look at what happens next week. Jonna is a single girl and Aiiya is the one with a man back home. I bet you everyone will just be going on and on about Jonna being a **** though.[/QUOTE]
Double post sorry, but CJ wasn't going out with Danielle during the filming. He was single, it says it in the Email she sent him and even Christina, 'bosslady,' confirmed it.
[QUOTE=SPK713;113366]Double post sorry, but CJ wasn't going out with Danielle during the filming. He was single, it says it in the Email she sent him and even Christina, 'bosslady,' confirmed it.[/QUOTE]
Well he was calling her "my girl" and had the big break up over the phone in the beginning of the season, but I guess maybe that was for story purposes.
Anyway, even taking that out of the equation, still Jonna is single now and Aiiya is the one who had a man back home, but watch people will still call Jonna trash and names when the 3 some happens next week. I feel that people are biased. Jonna reminds them of that girl they knew in school who got all the guys' attention and played games, so they have a special animosity towards her.
The fact is, she's single now and the only one cheating is Aiiya, but no one has called Aiiya a tramp. But I'm not judging Aiiya either because her and her man may have an open relationship. I'm just saying it's hypocritical for people to hate Jonna for stuff that other people are doing without criticism.
[QUOTE=Isabella;113368]Well he was calling her "my girl" and had the big break up over the phone in the beginning of the season, but I guess maybe that was for story purposes.
Anyway, even taking that out of the equation, still Jonna is single now and Aiiya is the one who had a man back home, but watch people will still call Jonna trash and names when the 3 some happens next week. I feel that people are biased. Jonna reminds them of that girl they knew in school who got all the guys' attention and played games, so they have a special animosity towards her.
The fact is, she's single now and the only one cheating is Aiiya, but no one has called Aiiya a tramp. But I'm not judging Aiiya either because her and her man may have an open relationship. I'm just saying it's hypocritical for people to hate Jonna for stuff that other people are doing without criticism.[/QUOTE]
I think people call Jonna trash just because she has back stabbed Jasmine. She also spooned with a couple of guys. They were a serious relationship and she worked it up so much that she even mentioned that he was most likely 'the one.' Where as Ayiiia's relationship isn't very serious, plus she's not hooking up with men, it's only women :D
[QUOTE=SPK713;113370]I think people call Jonna trash just because she has back stabbed Jasmine. She also spooned with a couple of guys. They were a serious relationship and she worked it up so much that she even mentioned that he was most likely 'the one.' Where as Ayiiia's relationship isn't very serious, plus she's not hooking up with men, it's only women :D[/QUOTE]
Jonna didn't backstab Jasmine...it's not like Jonna hooked up with Pat and Jonna and Jasmine weren't even close at the time like I don't even know if they considered each other friends then..Pat and Jonna were just friends it wasn't like Pat was Jasmine's they weren't dating and he wasn't serious about her. Yeah Jonna spooned with a couple of guys but it wasn't like she kissed any of them so spooning doesn't really count as cheating.
[QUOTE=hahalollmao3;113373]Jonna didn't backstab Jasmine...it's not like Jonna hooked up with Pat and Jonna and Jasmine weren't even close at the time like I don't even know if they considered each other friends then..Pat and Jonna were just friends it wasn't like Pat was Jasmine's they weren't dating and he wasn't serious about her. Yeah Jonna spooned with a couple of guys but it wasn't like she kissed any of them so spooning doesn't really count as cheating.[/QUOTE]
Are you telling me you would be okay with your boyfriend/girlfriend taking a worker they met out to dinner. Sleeping with them but not doing anything. Then cuddling on a hammock. Then going out to dinner the next night, and the next night? Or how about having your 'very serious' significant other feeding another and giving him a taste of your dinner?
Jonna is pathetic for using the excuse, "he's just my friend, if we want to hang out we can." It's like she needs to tell herself it's okay, its kinda sad. And yes, she did back stab Jasmine, she knew Jasmine was crazy for this guy yet she went after him. She also talked a whole bunch of **** behind her back. Jasmine also hooked up with Pat before Jonna.
JASMINE > JONNA
Regarding Ayiiia, seeing as though we know almost nothing about her "boyfriend", maybe they have an open relationship? That would explain her not fretting about snuggling, cuddling, kissing, etc. We really don't know.
[QUOTE=Isabella;113349]I feel like people have this animosity towards Jonna that they wouldn't have towards the others in that house. For instance, CJ cuddled with Emilee before he broke up with his girlfriend and I didn't see anybody criticizing him the way they criticized Jonna for cuddling with guys.
And look at what happens next week. Jonna is a single girl and Aiiya is the one with a man back home. I bet you everyone will just be going on and on about Jonna being a **** though.[/QUOTE]
Jonna gets more animosity from me because she seems indifferent towards her roommates feelings.
She seemed to go out of her way to flirt with Pat, most decent human beings would not do that to a person who was clearly infatuated with the person. It's just bad form.
Remember that scene where Bronne and Joey had a bit of a confrontation when ***** was around about some girl that Bronne had marked?
Remember the ***** guys coming up with a protocol to write someone off?
much cleaner, much less messy (still suspect from the girls perspective, and you could see it when they cut to her)
Anyway, Jonna knew about Jasmines interest in Pat, she knew flirting with him hurt her feelings, she just did not care. And in this episode towards the end, she finally admitted part of her attraction was that she pulled his attention away from Jasmine. (whatever little attention there was there to begin with)
Jonna's character in that area is what makes many of us get a sour taste for her. Even Dereck, when bringing the second gay guy to @#$%^@#%^, when they passed Jonna she tried to flirt with HIM !!!!!!!!
And Dereck was like "he's not for you"
hmm, notice a pattern? She likes the attention of others, and has no boundaries about where to pull it from, and all the while acting innocent.
Do any of you still Dare ask why she rubs some of us the wrong way?
[QUOTE=SPK713;113365]Couldn't have agreed anymore with your comments about Bronne. His humor is something that makes the little kids laugh. It's not one bit funny, and he tries too hard. I'm probably one of the youngest here (15) yet I find it absolutely embarrassing to watch.
I don't think JR is playing Jasmine just for camera time. If so, he would've arrived much earlier. Also, Jasmine said herself that she is still dating JR. Not everybody wants camera time.[/QUOTE]
If that last bit is true I really am happy for her.
I think that people are forgetting that Jonna is only 20. I'm just glad she realised that she isn't ready to be in a serious relationship before doing any more damage for everyone to see. I can imagine it being hard for her to cope with a long distance relationship with an insecure guy and her being the flirty person that she is. She could have hit it of with CJ or with that Kirk guy. She just realised that Matt just isn't what she wanted. And I just don't get that people are critizising her for the fact that she is 20, in Cancun and is doing what most 20 year old's are doing, figuring out what she wants and what she doesn't want.. She obviously tried her best to make it work, being with him on the phone the whole time and emailing him constantly in the beginning (she was also critizised for that!!). She doubted the relationship alot and just came to the conclusion that he loved her more than she loved him.
On the whole Jasmine and 'girl code' thing.. It was pretty brutal the way she flirted with Pat right in front of Jasmine, but come on.. I think that if Jonna was wrong, the other roommates would have said something about it and made some drama out of it. I think they just knew Jonna as a flirty person and Pat as their GOOD friend. In one of the episodes Emilee yelled 'I LOVE YOU!' in the club to Pat. And Jasmine got all mad about it. I mean come on.. She was taking it way to far. At one point she 'moved on' from Pat to JR (that move seemed very suspicious btw, glad they are still together tho) and Jonna and Pat officially 'hit it off' doing no harm to Jasmine, because the girl finally got laid (I cheered when I saw that clip).
I love Jonna AND Jasmine. In my eyes Jonna that doesn't like drama, is one of the boys and likes to flirt with them. I know enough girls that are like that, and they don't have boyfriends.. That just doesn't work for such girls.. and I am glad that Jonna realised that she just isn't capable of having a boyfriend being the person that she is..
I'm watching this right now, and before I write any of my opinions on the episode I just wanted to say one thing.
I think its really funny that Emilee and Derek were saying how they think JR is gay, when everybody here thinks Pat is gay.
[QUOTE=muffins621;113428]I'm watching this right now, and before I write any of my opinions on the episode I just wanted to say one thing.
I think its really funny that Emilee and Derek were saying how they think JR is gay, when everybody here thinks Pat is gay.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it is a Canadian DJ thing, LOL
I might be alone in this, but I really don't like Emilee. She has rubbed me the wrong way the whole season, but I kept trying to like her. She seems very two-faced and catty to me. In the episode where Joey went home, she said something like, "don't leave us alone with Ayiiia", and in this episode she was talking about the situation with Jasmine with Jonna and Derek - even though she says Jasmine is her best friend in the house. Maybe she also talked to Jasmine about it and we didn't see it.
I also don't like how she says her parents are pyschologists and she diagnoses people in the house. She's done it for Ayiiia, Jasmine, and Bronne so far. She reminds me of Dale in Step Brothers thinking he can join the family business. Also, weren't Brooke's parents also pyschologists? ...
Maybe in the next couple of episodes, reunion, and *** they should have shown I'll see a different side of her and change my opinion.
What I think about this episode:
I'm glad that Jonna "manned up" and ended things with Matt. I'm sure it was hard for her, because she obviously cares about him. Sometimes it takes being away from somebody to see that you are meant to be together, but sometimes it also proves that you aren't right together. Jonna's is the latter in this case.
I don't think that Jasmine was trying to make Pat jealous. I think she just found somebody else she clicked with and was tired of going after somebody who wasn't into her.
Jonna wasn't in the wrong in my opinion. Yeah, she should have thought more about Jasmine's feelings about Pat, but at the same time Jasmine seemed to be moving on, and Jasmine and Pat only went on a few dates. I wouldn't have done the same thing if I were in that position, but I don't think Jonna is wrong.
Bronne is my favorite cast member, and I really hope he still gets a decent amount of air time without being in the house. He really makes the show hilarious and fun to watch.
I like Ayiiia and Jonna's interactions with each other. I think that they even each other out well. "How big is his ____" "You're such a brat"
Next week's episode is going to be interesting! Can't wait to see it.
[QUOTE=muffins621;113435]I might be alone in this, but I really don't like Emilee. She has rubbed me the wrong way the whole season, but I kept trying to like her. She seems very two-faced and catty to me. In the episode where Joey went home, she said something like, "don't leave us alone with Ayiiia", and in this episode she was talking about the situation with Jasmine with Jonna and Derek - even though she says Jasmine is her best friend in the house. Maybe she also talked to Jasmine about it and we didn't see it.
I also don't like how she says her parents are pyschologists and she diagnoses people in the house. She's done it for Ayiiia, Jasmine, and Bronne so far. She reminds me of Dale in Step Brothers thinking he can join the family business. Also, weren't Brooke's parents also pyschologists? ...
Maybe in the next couple of episodes, reunion, and *** they should have shown I'll see a different side of her and change my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Usually I wouldn't come on here and give an in depth message but I think that you guys are clearly great fans of the show, and whether or not you like me, you're still a fan, and you're still watching. So, I'd just like to put this out there my VEVMO users -
First of all - I don't "diagnose" people. Which is why I don't respond to people who send me messages about their ADHD. I simply have a knack at READING people for what they are. I spent two years as a Psych major, and ONE of my parents is a psychologist. I decided it wasn't for me, because quite frankly I don't want to analyze people's actions for the rest of my life. However, when you have a parent who is a psychologist, you're raised a certain way. And btw, Bronne does have ADD in my opinion. Half the planet does nowadays, haha.
People here saying I'm a bad friend and I'm two faced. Umm, my approach to being a good friend is telling a person whether they are wrong or right, and staying honest. Just because you're my friend doesn't mean I'm going to let you get away with whatever you want to do - especially if it's wrong. Sometimes I can be irrational (especially with liquor involved, hence my tweet about Iya) and lash out, a flaw of mine that I acknowledge, but I am very loyal and I'll tell you like it is. A real friend will call you out when you're wrong. A faux friend just lets you get away with it and keeps on trucking because they clearly don't care all that much for you. Sorry I know the difference between right and wrong - if you want to call me a fake friend that's fine - but I disagree.
Through out the show, if I didn't like something someone did, I'd call them out for it. Just because I thought Joey was wrong for harassing Ayiiia doesn't mean I'm going to HATE him for it. That's childish, I'm not in middle school. I told him off camera about the cutting, I didn't know he'd use it against me, and it put a huge dent in my friendship with Ayiiia until a month later, when she confronted me off camera. I don't blame her for not trusting me, when she had come into the house with little trust to give anyway. That's her defense mechanism, and from her past, I do NOT hold that against her.
Jonna was my roommate. Each pair of roommates had a weird bond. It's weird to fight with the person you actually sleep in the same room with, which is why I tried to stay out of the Pat drama, but sometimes when you go into three hour interviews and your opinions are swayed each week, it gets hard to know what the **** is going on. Production doesn't make you say or do anything, but boy oh boy, they can sure change your mind about things.
Jasmine was and is the girl in the house I got to know on a different level because we shared some real personal stuff with one another about our backgrounds and families - which is something that will never air. People don't understand that the Pat, Matt, Jonna, JR, Jasmine situation got to the point that even Production was sick of talking about it. God forbid when you have nothing to do, you sit around with your two roommates and talk about what was going on in the house. I was always honest with Jas about the Pat situation. I told her I didn't think they had ***, which is why in the dailies she throws the glass. I heard her out, and my mind changed. As it did 10 more times in a matter of two weeks.
The point is, I was and still am friends with EVERYONE in the house and it was always that way. So take that for what it is.
Oh, one more thing, my "thanks for leaving us with Ayiiia" was in jest to make Joey feel better because he was indeed crying, and out of aggravation because she had been skipping around hoping he would go home (I don't blame her, but the rest of us didn't want to lose Joey as a roommate). When I saw the episode, I didn't even remember saying it, so that's the best "excuse" I can come up with knowing how I am.
[QUOTE=emilee;113495] ... I tried to stay out of the Pat drama, but sometimes when you go into three hour interviews and your opinions are swayed each week, it gets hard to know what the **** is going on. Production doesn't make you say or do anything, but boy oh boy, they can sure change your mind about things... [/QUOTE]
People need to remember that this is a television show, which means that you won't see most things happen in chronological order because the footages needs to be edited down to fit a certain timeframe. Therefore sometimes editors can manipulate scenes to make it appear a certain way to fit an intended storyline they want. Also producers can sway a situation like she said by their interview techniques - all to fit a certain storyline.
So it's unfair to judge people but we're human and we all do it. Again, I don't like what Jonna is doing to Jasmine in the series but at the same time I admit that we don't see 100 percent of what's going on.
I think we need to step back and remember that it's a tv show in general. So we can't sit and say "oh she's fake" and blah blah blah because we don't know them on a personal level.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;113511]Thank you for sharing your side of the story Emilee. I think that we need to step back and think about how heavily the shows are editd.[/QUOTE]
it's not even so much "the edit." it's more so how the events are edited and the things that are left out that complete the story.
[QUOTE=emilee;113515]it's not even so much "the edit." [B]it's more so how the events are[I] edited [/I]and the [I]things that are left out[/I] that complete the story.[/B][/QUOTE]
Um...wouldn't that stil be considered the edit?
I haven't even caught half of the things that people seem to dislike you for and I have seen every episode so I must not be very observant, LOL.
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