[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237056]Just continuing on a topic about 'Most Losses' from the current spoiler thread.
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Actually i think the original point of that discussion was who had the most losses without a win, which would be Paula with 0 wins and 7 losses.
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237100]During the Island in a three-way face off comprising of Derrick/Johnny/Cohutta[/QUOTE]
That really shouldn't matter considering Derrick and Johnny were working together, and Derrick wasn't eliminated from the competition.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;237118]That really shouldn't matter considering Derrick and Johnny were working together, and Derrick wasn't eliminated from the competition.[/QUOTE]
It still counts as a loss regardless hence Ashli/Jenn losing against Paula in their faceoff. Also if you remember it wasnt a faceoff where you could actually help each other (It was getting a set of keys and escaping from a cage)
Since I am a huge Futebol fan I find this interesting...
Puck (RW: San Francisco) and Elka (RW: Boston) are the only cast members to be seen wearing a soccer jersey on a challenge. Puck had a River Plate jersey on during BOTS1 and Elka had a Manchester United jersey on when she left Gauntlet 1. I can understand Elka wearing the United jersey since she had Beckham's name on the back, but Puck wearing a River Plate jersey completely took me by surprised lol. Is he or anybody in his family from Argentina since thats where River Plate is from?
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;237105]Actually i think the original point of that discussion was who had the most losses without a win, which would be Paula with 0 wins and 7 losses.[/QUOTE]
Paula, Robin, and Beth are actually tied - all are currently 0-7
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237122]It still counts as a loss regardless hence Ashli/Jenn losing against Paula in their faceoff. Also if you remember it wasnt a faceoff where you could actually help each other (It was getting a set of keys and escaping from a cage)[/QUOTE]
I also remember Derrick not trying his hardest because he already had a key, and had he won, Johnny would've gotten voted off instead of Cohutta.
And I also don't consider Ashli and Jenn losing to Paula as an elimination towards their records either.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;237126]I also remember Derrick not trying his hardest because he already had a key, and had he won, Johnny would've gotten voted off instead of Cohutta.
And I also don't consider Ashli and Jenn losing to Paula as an elimination towards their records either.[/QUOTE]
Even then it still doesnt matter as a loss is a loss regardless of planning/scheming before or after. Hence why I also count Shauvon's quit in Cutthroat and Camerons quit and Beths quit in G3
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237136]Even then it still doesnt matter as a loss is a loss regardless of planning/scheming before or after. Hence why I also count Shauvon's quit in Cutthroat and Camerons quit and Beths quit in G3[/QUOTE]
I look at it like Cohutta lost and Johnny won but Derrick didn't win or lose because he didn't go home. I know he didn't beat the other 2 in that face off but because he didn't technically go home, his record isn't effected. Same with the other people who didn't go home on The Island. Quitting and DQ's should effect the record because they went home. It shouldn't be considered a loss for Derrick especially because he did go and win the competition.
[QUOTE=faceless;237157]I look at it like Cohutta lost and Johnny won but Derrick didn't win or lose because he didn't go home. I know he didn't beat the other 2 in that face off but because he didn't technically go home, his record isn't effected. Same with the other people who didn't go home on The Island. Quitting and DQ's should effect the record because they went home. It shouldn't be considered a loss for Derrick especially because he did go and win the competition.[/QUOTE]
Yes but the list is NOT a list of who went home. Its a list instead of who won and lost the 'elimination' type games be it Gauntlet, Inferno, Exile, Faceoff, Gulag, Ruins or Duel.
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237216]Yes but the list is NOT a list of who went home. Its a list instead of who won and lost the 'elimination' type games be it Gauntlet, Inferno, Exile, Faceoff, Gulag, Ruins or Duel.[/QUOTE]
Right and I was just saying that I didn't think that if they didn't go home then it's not considered losing or winning because there was 2 parts to the whole thing, compete and then convince to staying.
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However as far as elimination matchups are concerned, if we take the losers list (Katie, Brad, Tonya, Paula, Robin, Beth, Aneesa, CT, Derrick, Veronica, Abram, Coral, Adam, Danny, Diem, Eric, Jenn, Tina and Ryan) we get this
Katie: (Montana, Julie, David, Shauvon, Ayiiia) 5-6 (Rachel.B, Tina/Kenny, Paula, Jenn, Sarah, Camila)
Brad (Eric, Landon) 2-2 (Abram, Derrick)
Tonya (Julie, Shavonda, Diem) 3-2 (Wes/Casey, Abram)
[B]Paula[/B] (Aneesa, Katie) 2-5 (Aneesa x2,[B] Jenn[/B], Ev/Luke, Emily)
Robin (Casey) 1-4 (Tina, Aneesa, Kellyanne, Kimberly)
Beth (Ruthie, Montana) 2-3 (Aneesa, Svetlana, Coral)
Aneesa (Beth, Paula x2, Robin, Diem, Shauvon, Tori) 7-2 (Svetlana, Paula)
CT (Shane, Evan) 2-1 (Brad)
Derrick (Adam.L, Syrus, Brad, Tyler, Davis, Abram/Johnny, Brandon) 7-5 (Timmy, Darrell/Aviv, Wes, Johnny, Tyler)
Veronica (Jodi) 1-1 (Kellyanne)
Abram (Brad, Timmy, Tonya/Kenny) 3-2 (Miz, Derrick)
Coral (Tina, Beth) 2-0
Adam.K (Danny) 1-2 (Alton, Syrus)
[B]Danny 0-6 (Alton[/B], Wes/Casey, Davis, Adam, Darrell, Jillian/Pete)
Diem (Jenn) 1-4 (Darrell/Aviv, Aneesa, Brittini, Tonya)
Eric (Nehemiah, Vinny) 2-3 (Tina/Kenny, Derek, Luke)
Jenn (Rachel, Colie, Paula/Ashli, Katie, Kimberly, Ryan/Theresa) 6-1 (Susie)
Tina (Robin, Katie/Eric, Theo/Chanda) 3-1 (Coral)
Ryan (Derek, Colie/Johanna, Nick) 3-4 (Wes/Casey, Nehemiah, M.J, Jenn/Noor)
This list counts the Exiles in fresh meat 1+2. It also counts the face-offs in the island (Tonya lost in one which Abe on, hence hes on her list meanwhile Abe beat Tonya and Kenny, hence why both are on his).
Finally it also counts both instances of giving up in the actual elimination (Beth/Shauvon) as well as any 'Controversial' eliminations since this is geared more officially (So Beth/CT's eliminations in the Duel count)
What is NOT counted however are non-competition eliminations (Battle of the Seasons and both Battle of the Sexes). Neither are DQ's or quits outside of a elimination matchup (Hence Corals spotless record despite quitting. She never actually was placed into elimination).
(Yes I am quite bored atm, thanks for asking. teehee)[/QUOTE]
Probably just forgetting but when did Jenn beat Paula in an elimination... cause if it was the faceoff on the island Paula won that
And Danny never lost to Alton the only challenge they were on together was Inferno 3 where he lost to davis... The Danny Alton beat was road rules xtreme danny...
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237070]Also if we accepted 'Spring Break Challenge' as an actual challenge series (Camilla is in the series so I guess it may be, hopefully not since these guys didnt actually compete properly) it would bump up the lists like this
Susie 3-1 (originally 2-1)
Kenny - 3-5 (originally 3-4)
Wes 1-4 (originally 1-3)
Darrell 4-3 (Originally 4-2)
Landon 3-2 (Originally 3-1)
Ev 2-5 (Originally 2-4)
Rachel (Campus Crawl) 2-5 (Originally 2-4)
As you can see though even if it did it wouldnt affect the most losses group at all with only Rachel, Kenny and Ev really taking one step closer to being in the 6 loss catagory. So its probably best to ignore the numbers there and focus on main challenges.
That means also that Derrick fits in the catagory having lost Battle of the Sexes 2, Inferno 2, Gauntlet 2, Fresh meat, the Duel and Cutthroat.
If we DO add 5 losses to the list though it adds Veronica, Abram, Coral, Adam, Danny, Diem, Eric, Jenn, Tina and Ryan.
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However as far as elimination matchups are concerned, if we take the losers list (Katie, Brad, Tonya, Paula, Robin, Beth, Aneesa, CT, Derrick, Veronica, Abram, Coral, Adam, Danny, Diem, Eric, Jenn, Tina and Ryan) we get this
Katie: (Montana, Julie, David, Shauvon, Ayiiia) 5-6 (Rachel.B, Tina/Kenny, Paula, Jenn, Sarah, Camila)
Brad (Eric, Landon) 2-2 (Abram, Derrick)
Tonya (Julie, Shavonda, Diem) 3-2 (Wes/Casey, Abram)
Paula (Aneesa, Katie) 2-5 (Aneesa x2, Jenn, Ev/Luke, Emily)
Robin (Casey) 1-4 (Tina, Aneesa, Kellyanne, Kimberly)
Beth (Ruthie, Montana) 2-3 (Aneesa, Svetlana, Coral)
Aneesa (Beth, Paula x2, Robin, Diem, Shauvon, Tori) 7-2 (Svetlana, Paula)
CT (Shane, Evan) 2-1 (Brad)
Derrick (Adam.L, Syrus, Brad, Tyler, Davis, Abram/Johnny, Brandon) 7-5 (Timmy, Darrell/Aviv, Wes, Johnny, Tyler)
Veronica (Jodi) 1-1 (Kellyanne)
Abram (Brad, Timmy, Tonya/Kenny) 3-2 (Miz, Derrick)
Coral (Tina, Beth) 2-0
Adam.K (Danny) 1-2 (Alton, Syrus)
Danny 0-6 (Alton, Wes/Casey, Davis, Adam, Darrell, Jillian/Pete)
Diem (Jenn) 1-4 (Darrell/Aviv, Aneesa, Brittini, Tonya)
Eric (Nehemiah, Vinny) 2-3 (Tina/Kenny, Derek, Luke)
[B]Jenn[/B] (Rachel, Colie, Paula/Ashli, Katie, Kimberly, Ryan/Theresa) [B]6-1[/B] (Susie)
Tina (Robin, Katie/Eric, Theo/Chanda) 3-1 (Coral)
Ryan (Derek, Colie/Johanna, Nick) 3-4 (Wes/Casey, Nehemiah, M.J, Jenn/Noor)
This list counts the Exiles in fresh meat 1+2. It also counts the face-offs in the island (Tonya lost in one which Abe on, hence hes on her list meanwhile Abe beat Tonya and Kenny, hence why both are on his).
Finally it also counts both instances of giving up in the actual elimination (Beth/Shauvon) as well as any 'Controversial' eliminations since this is geared more officially (So Beth/CT's eliminations in the Duel count)
What is NOT counted however are non-competition eliminations (Battle of the Seasons and both Battle of the Sexes). Neither are DQ's or quits outside of a elimination matchup (Hence Corals spotless record despite quitting. She never actually was placed into elimination).
(Yes I am quite bored atm, thanks for asking. teehee)[/QUOTE]
Jenn also lost to Diem. 6-2.
[QUOTE=josh8793;237450]Probably just forgetting but when did Jenn beat Paula in an elimination... cause if it was the faceoff on the island Paula won that
And Danny never lost to Alton the only challenge they were on together was Inferno 3 where he lost to davis... The Danny Alton beat was road rules xtreme danny...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;237490]Jenn also lost to Diem. 6-2.[/QUOTE]
Yes I got confused as I did Island/Duel 2, True also that I got Danny (X-Treme) and Danny (Austin) mixed up also. The Jenn one is also an odd mistake seeing how I counted it with Diem but not with Jenn. So to make everything clearer ill do a revised listing with more people on it (AGH) but without any 'Island' faceoffs (Not even the final 5-way faceoff) and with, hopefully, as little errors as the first draft.
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237509]Yes I got confused as I did Island/Duel 2, True also that I got Danny (X-Treme) and Danny (Austin) mixed up also. The Jenn one is also an odd mistake seeing how I counted it with Diem but not with Jenn. So to make everything clearer ill do a revised listing with more people on it (AGH) but without any 'Island' faceoffs (Not even the final 5-way faceoff) and with, hopefully, as little errors as the first draft.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to just omit The Island. I think that if you won then it should be +1 to wins, if you went home it is +1 to losses and if you plead your way to staying on then your record isn't effected.
[QUOTE=faceless;237510]You don't have to just omit The Island. I think that if you won then it should be +1 to wins, if you went home it is +1 to losses and if you plead your way to staying on then your record isn't effected.[/QUOTE]
I dont see how losing a faceoff would keep a win record strong really regardless of staying or going home as a concequence. Problem is im not including Battle of the Seasons or Sexes 1+2 which are all also voteoff scenarios and you could argue if you lost a challenge as a team captain and then get voted out, its a mark on your record.
Essentially it all boils down to theres not enough reason to have the eliminations but at the same time theres a lot of reason so in order to keep things simple, its been taken out.
Who can figure this out. Can you guys name 5 Males who have never ever been in a elmination round and they have done at least 2 challenges and have won at least 1 challenge.
[QUOTE=jones10389;237568]Who can figure this out. Can you guys name 5 Males who have never ever been in a elmination round and they have done at least 2 challenges and have won at least 1 challenge.[/QUOTE]
Mark, Jamie, Dan, Eric, Randy?
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;237569]Mark, Jamie, Dan, Eric, Randy?[/QUOTE]
As far as I recall Eric (RW:NY) and Dan (Northern Trail) have never actually been in a challenge with elimination challenges. I can only think of four males myself
Mark (First Adventure), Jaime (New Orleans), Dave (South Pacific), Randy (San Diego)
And only two females
Roni (Northern Trail), Jaime (San Diego),
[QUOTE=jamesbuc;237605]As far as I recall Eric (RW:NY) and Dan (Northern Trail) have never actually been in a challenge with elimination challenges. I can only think of four males myself
Mark (First Adventure), Jaime (New Orleans), Dave (South Pacific), Randy (San Diego)
And only two females
Roni (Northern Trail), Jaime (San Diego),[/QUOTE]
This is true, but actually not the question lol. And as for the other question, I can add Yes to that list as well.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;237607]This is true, but actually not the question lol. And as for the other question, I can add Yes to that list as well.[/QUOTE]
Again another who never took part in any elimination challenge based challenges XD
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;240285]Both Irulan from the orginal Las Vegas season and Naomi from the second installment, hail from the Bronx![/QUOTE]
There was something about Irulan that freaked me out--she seemed almost not human in her appearance, and not in a good way.
I find it interesting that out of all ten males on the first Duel, only three did not win a Duel. Those three were Johnny, Kenny, and Evan. Then on the female side, only three girls won a Duel the entire season. Those three were Aneesa, Svetlana, and Robin.
[QUOTE=rwdenverfan;241977]I find it interesting that out of all ten males on the first Duel, only three did not win a Duel. Those three were Johnny, Kenny, and Evan. Then on the female side, only three girls won a Duel the entire season. Those three were Aneesa, Svetlana, and Robin.[/QUOTE]
Its funny that those 3 guys in particular didn't win a duel.
There have been no cast members to win a challenge in the following Real World seasons: Los Angeles, San Francisco, London, Paris, Denver, Hollywood, Brooklyn, Cancun, and D.C.
New Orleans (2010) and Vegas (2011) have yet to feature cast mates in a challenge (excluding the upcoming one)
I believe:
[spoiler]The upcoming challenge will be tied with RR: Campus Crawl, RR: X-Treme, and RW: Austin for featuring the most ever winners from one season - 3 (John, Paula, Tyler). South Pacific fielded 3 winners from The Gauntlet (Darrell, Rachel, Sarah), X-Treme had Ibis, Jodi, and Kina winning during the Gauntlet II, and the Gauntlet III had Johanna, Nehemiah, and Rachel from RW: Austin.[/spoiler]
Road Rules: X-Treme is the only challenge that has had 3 female winners on one season, and I believe is the only season where all of the (original) women have won at least one challenge.
These have probably already been mentioned. Oh well, no one else reads through it.
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