[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302640]I know the reasons why they stopped talking, I am not questioning that. I am questioing when. And I understand why everyone does not agree with what I said about Diem and CT's parents but, I find it odd. I mean if Diem treated CT as bas as he claimed, then why would they want a relationship with her?[/QUOTE]
Because CT is a story teller. Do you remember how he treated her on Gauntlet 3? His parents know what kind of person CT is and it's not all Diems fault they broke up. I believe that life with CT is not a paradise, even though I'm his fan.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302572]The only reason Diem is made to look bad in this situation is because CT has a bigger fan base. There are so many women out there who "WISH" he would even be concerned with them and so many men who want to be like him. It's pathetic. Diem just does not have as many people tooting her horn. I dont know what to think about either one of them myself, but I think that Diem had her reasons. And from what I understand, there is more to the story.
And I also thought that they were broken up when his brother passed. Which is weird because the stories seem to conflict. CT's brother passed prior to the Gaunlet 3, and they were broken up on that show. But, Diem said in their interview that he stoped talking to her when she did not show up. Which is conflicting because they were talking on that show???[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right, they weren't together when his brother died, but they were on speaking terms. They broke up after gauntlet 3, but she thought they may still have gotten back together during Duel 2, but then he slept with Shauvon. In the exes initial interview, she said they had zero communication since the duel 2 reunion 3 years ago.
As I mentioned earlier, on exes, Diem said her Mom died last year, and no mention was made of CT not going to that funeral.
[QUOTE=Blue123;302621]That was after Duel 2 right? They were talking on duel 2, it wasnt until the Shavoun think did things seem to get ugly and then on the after show CT mentioned the brother thing and Diem was still ****** that he disrespected her. Its interesting that the Shauvon thing was a bigger issue than the brother's funeral.[/QUOTE]
Timeline of Events:
July 2007: Gauntlet III is filmed
August 2008: Vincent Tamburello Jr is murdered
November 2008: Duel II is filmed
They had three conversations (on film) on Duel II. We didn't hear the majority of the first, but from what I got it started when CT asked her if she wanted food. The second was Diem confronting CT about his hookup with Shauvon. The third was basically telling her to **** off. We don't know what conversations they had off camera.
In the one-on-one interviews, the editing made it seem as though Diem and CT broke up because of CT's actions on Gauntlet III - not because of his brother's death. However, maybe it was something she did not want to bring up. We don't know.
[QUOTE=mandi1982;302647]You are absolutely right, they weren't together when his brother died, but they were on speaking terms. They broke up after gauntlet 3, but she thought they may still have gotten back together during Duel 2, but then he slept with Shauvon. In the exes initial interview, she said they had zero communication since the duel 2 reunion 3 years ago.
As I mentioned earlier, on exes, [B]Diem said her Mom died last year[/B], and no mention was made of CT not going to that funeral.[/QUOTE]
And in quite a few [url=http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/diem-brown]biographies[/url] and [url=http://www.savvymiss.com/ambitious-women/ambitious-women-archive/article/meet-diem-brown-220/news-browse/1/page-browse/2.html?All&PrintPage]interviews[/url], Diem states that her mother died after her first year of college and before she found out she had ovarian cancer - which would have been before she appeared on Fresh Meat at age 25. Perhaps that is something Diem can clear up for us herself.
[QUOTE=molds13;302649]And in quite a few [url=http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/diem-brown]biographies[/url] and [url=http://www.savvymiss.com/ambitious-women/ambitious-women-archive/article/meet-diem-brown-220/news-browse/1/page-browse/2.html?All&PrintPage]interviews[/url], Diem states that her mother died after her first year of college and before she found out she had ovarian cancer - which would have been before [B]she appeared on Fresh Meat at age 25.[/B] Perhaps that is something Diem can clear up for us herself.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure she started appearing at age 25? I thought she began filming Fresh Meat right after she found out she had ovarian cancer, which many articles say she had been diagnosed with at age 23.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;302737]Campus Crawl[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I realized after I posted it but the site wouldn't refresh so I couldn't fix it. But anyways, how about it? Would you like him on another challenge?
[QUOTE=spectacular;302734]Are you sure she started appearing at age 25? I thought she began filming Fresh Meat right after she found out she had ovarian cancer, which many articles say she had been diagnosed with at age 23.[/QUOTE]
Well, MTV says that Diem was 25 on episode 1 of Fresh Meat.
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(BTW: Fresh Meat is available on mtv.com)
However, Fresh Meat was filmed in early 2006, and if her birthday is in June of 1982 (per a Google search), she would have only been 23.
So...I don't know. That's a good question.
EDIT:
MTV also says Kenny is 22, which, if filmed at the beginning of 2006, would have been right.
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Kenny's birthday is 10 months after Diem's (April of 1983).
Final analysis: MTV was probably wrong, Diem was actually 23 during Fresh Meat filming.
[QUOTE=Rico_Inferno;302736]How would you guys feel if Shane from RR:Campus Crawl did another challenge?[/QUOTE]
Shane! My favorite gay cast member ever! I would love that. But he hasn't huge story line, I bet MTV would ask him back.
Her MTV FM bio also said she was 25. [url=http://www.mtv.com/shows/rwrr_challenge-fresh_meat/cast_member.jhtml?personalityId=6959]Diem | Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Fresh Meat | MTV[/url]
Shane would be way more memorable than Shawn from RR: SaS. Shawn was only on one challenge and even on his original season he wasn't that memorable. Shane has done enough challenges to where I feel he would be recognized and the fans would be happy to see him back. At least I would. Shane didn't ever do challenges with other gay men besides Dan (RW Miami), Nick (RR X-treme), and Ryan (Fresh Meat) who he already knew from his past so I'd like to see how he interacts with Tyler or Davis. I actually would like to see him come back and actually win.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;302745]Shane would be way more memorable than Shawn from RR: SaS. Shawn was only on one challenge and even on his original season he wasn't that memorable. Shane has done enough challenges to where I feel he would be recognized and the fans would be happy to see him back. At least I would. Shane didn't ever do challenges with other gay men besides Dan (RW Miami), Nick (RR X-treme), and Ryan (Fresh Meat) who he already knew from his past so I'd like to see how he interacts with Tyler or Davis. I actually would like to see him come back and actually win.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you in every aspect. On twitter he was talking about how much he liked it when Tyler take pictures with his shirt off. Lol. I think Tyler and Shane on a challenge would be a fantastic thing.
[QUOTE=Blue123;302621]That was after Duel 2 right? They were talking on duel 2, it wasnt until the Shavoun think did things seem to get ugly and then on the after show CT mentioned the brother thing and Diem was still ****** that he disrespected her. Its interesting that the Shauvon thing was a bigger issue than the brother's funeral.[/QUOTE] I do not think that the,"Shavon thing" was a bigger issue at all. Like I stated before CT and Diem were still talking on the Duel 2. On the first episode when they are talking in the kitchen, there did not seem to be any hard feelings. They were talking to each other as friends would. Although CT's brother had already passed at this time we were made to believe that CT and Diem had issues with each other because Diem missed the funeral. However, this is not correct because clearly they were still talking. This issue may not have been resolved at this time when we saw them together, but it seems as if they were ok with each other after it happened. The only reason why the Shavon thing seem so relevant was because it happened right then at the time of the show and this is what ultimatly caused them to have their big falling out. On the afterhow, after this epsiode on the duel 2 aired, Diem said from that night her and CT had not spoken. She was talking about the night that CT hooked up with Shavon and then got into a fight with Adam. She had tried to call and e-mail him, but he would not respond. So they did not stop communicating after Diem failed to attend CT's brother's funeral, but they stopped communicating after the Duel 2 when everthing went down. And Diem did not stop communicating with him because of the Shavon thing, CT stopped communicating with her after that incident.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302850]I do not think that the,"Shavon thing" was a bigger issue at all. Like I stated before CT and Diem were still talking on the Duel 2. On the first episode when they are talking in the kitchen, there did not seem to be any hard feelings. They were talking to each other as friends would. Although CT's brother had already passed at this time we were made to believe that CT and Diem had issues with each other because Diem missed the funeral. However, this is not correct because clearly they were still talking. This issue may not have been resolved at this time when we saw them together, but it seems as if they were ok with each other after it happened. The only reason why the Shavon thing seem so relevant was because it happened right then at the time of the show and this is what ultimatly caused them to have their big falling out. On the afterhow, after this epsiode on the duel 2 aired, Diem said from that night her and CT had not spoken. She was talking about the night that CT hooked up with Shavon and then got into a fight with Adam. She had tried to call and e-mail him, but he would not respond. So they did not stop communicating after Diem failed to attend CT's brother's funeral, but they stopped communicating after the Duel 2 when everthing went down. And Diem did not stop communicating with him because of the Shavon thing, CT stopped communicating with her after that incident.[/QUOTE]
I am not even going to read that.
Find the "enter" or "return" button on your keyboard. Break up your thoughts into paragraphs. I would say 99.9% of people ignore giant blocks of text on the internet.
[QUOTE=Bacchus;302851]I am not even going to read that.
Find the "enter" or "return" button on your keyboard. Break up your thoughts into paragraphs. I would say 99.9% of people ignore giant blocks of text on the internet.[/QUOTE]
TL,DR version says that CT and Diem were seen talking on The Duel 2 before the Shavuon incident happened in the kitchen or something, but Diem claims they never talked on the show. They stopped talking after The Duel 2, not the missed funeral.
Or at least that's what I think this person's saying.
[QUOTE=Bacchus;302851]I am not even going to read that.
Find the "enter" or "return" button on your keyboard. Break up your thoughts into paragraphs. I would say 99.9% of people ignore giant blocks of text on the internet.[/QUOTE]
[I]I do not think that the,"Shavon thing" was a bigger issue at all. Like I stated before CT and Diem were still talking on the Duel 2. On the first episode when they are talking in the kitchen, there did not seem to be any hard feelings. They were talking to each other as friends would. Although CT's brother had already passed at this time we were made to believe that CT and Diem had stopped talking to each other because Diem missed the funeral. However, this is not correct because clearly they were still talking. [/I]
[I]This issue may not have been resolved at this time when we saw them together, but it seems as if they were ok with each other after it happened. The only reason why the Shavon thing seem so relevant was because it happened right then at the time of the show and this is what ultimatly caused them to have their big falling out.[/I]
[I]On the afterhow, after this epsiode on the duel 2 aired, Diem said from that night her and CT had not spoken. She was talking about the night that CT hooked up with Shavon and then got into a fight with Adam. She had tried to call and e-mail him, but he would not respond.[/I]
[I]So they did not stop communicating after Diem failed to attend CT's brother's funeral, but they stopped communicating after the Duel 2 when everthing went down. And Diem did not stop communicating with him because of the Shavon thing, CT stopped communicating with her after that incident.[/I]
[I]Is that better for you? [/I]
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302854][I]I do not think that the,"Shavon thing" was a bigger issue at all. Like I stated before CT and Diem were still talking on the Duel 2. On the first episode when they are talking in the kitchen, there did not seem to be any hard feelings. They were talking to each other as friends would. Although CT's brother had already passed at this time we were made to believe that CT and Diem had stopped talking to each other because Diem missed the funeral. However, this is not correct because clearly they were still talking. [/I]
[I]This issue may not have been resolved at this time when we saw them together, but it seems as if they were ok with each other after it happened. The only reason why the Shavon thing seem so relevant was because it happened right then at the time of the show and this is what ultimatly caused them to have their big falling out.[/I]
[I]On the afterhow, after this epsiode on the duel 2 aired, Diem said from that night her and CT had not spoken. She was talking about the night that CT hooked up with Shavon and then got into a fight with Adam. She had tried to call and e-mail him, but he would not respond.[/I]
[I]So they did not stop communicating after Diem failed to attend CT's brother's funeral, but they stopped communicating after the Duel 2 when everthing went down. And Diem did not stop communicating with him because of the Shavon thing, CT stopped communicating with her after that incident.[/I]
[B]
[I]Is that better for you? [/I][/B] [/QUOTE]
Nope.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;302865]Nope.[/QUOTE]
Nope?
Nope, What?
Nope, you dont understand the point I am trying to make or Nope, it is still too hard for you to read?
If you dont understand the point I am trying to make, ok that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
However, if the paragraphs are still too big for you to read, I don't know how to help you. Maybe you should tell me how to write it in a simpler way so that you could understand.
Okay?
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;302867]Nope?
Nope, What?
Nope, you dont understand the point I am trying to make or Nope, it is still too hard for you to read?
If you dont understand the point I am trying to make, ok that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
However, if the paragraphs are still too big for you to read, I don't know how to help you. Maybe you should tell me how to write it in a simpler way so that you could understand.
Okay?[/QUOTE]
I think you were just poked with a little sarcasm.
I think the next Challenge should be a type of New School competitors vs Old School competitors concept because lately there has been a rise of new tough competitors like Leroy, Ty, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Mandi, etc. that will be running future challenges and I think it would be interesting to put them up against the old people who used to and currently run challenges now like Johnny, Mark, Wes, CT, Evelyn, Rachel, etc.
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;302870]I think the next Challenge should be a type of New School competitors vs Old School competitors concept because lately there has been a rise of new tough competitors like Leroy, Ty, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Mandi, etc. that will be running future challenges and I think it would be interesting to put them up against the old people who used to and currently run challenges now like Johnny, Mark, Wes, CT, Evelyn, Rachel, etc.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Rachel really had power in the game. Back in the day I considered Veronica, Coral, Mark, Eric Nies, Theo, Darrell, and the Miz to be running the game. Then starting with Duel 1...Brad, CT, Derrick, Kina and Jodi took control briefly, then Evan, Kenny and Johnny with Evelyn a little bit.
[QUOTE=Rmayers;302875]Who all has retired from the challenges?
Do you think they will return?[/QUOTE]
You asked the same question [url=http://vevmo.com/f266/the-challenge-open-thread-6026/index35.html#post302343]6 days ago[/url] and people responded to you. I recommend going back and reading those posts.
[QUOTE=V1man;302259]"October or later" removes the option of securing those cast members whose personal situation allows for more flexibility during the summer months. June was a date I've heard rumors about.[/QUOTE]
June is not bad, I hope they air it quickly again just like for this last one.
[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;302870]I think the next Challenge should be a type of New School competitors vs Old School competitors concept because lately there has been a rise of new tough competitors like Leroy, Ty, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Mandi, etc. that will be running future challenges and I think it would be interesting to put them up against the old people who used to and currently run challenges now like Johnny, Mark, Wes, CT, Evelyn, Rachel, etc.[/QUOTE]
Honestly. I would like to see this too. I think that they could get enough people to fill out the new school team....But It could be hard for them to get old school people(depending on who they want to get).
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