The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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If she's problematic then so is Tommy since his *** went along with it. Stop blaming 2 people for the actions of 8 who voted for Kelliee. 

she's not only problematic for voting kellee out. when she got back to camp she went off on janet and completely lied saying that she never said that she felt uncomfortable. it was a horrible look for her and elizabeth.

her and Elizabeth should have been DQed it crossed the line so far beyond the game. They were lucky they had the winners season after bc that season could have cancelled the show.

The fact they might be bringing 2 people from the worst survivor season ever..... it's crazy. 

I knew Tommy would be one of the Survivor rookies called/potentially on. Why is it so hard to give us one of the Lauren's Sad

And here lies another problem " I love my job "

Cast members are never going to take a break because this is all they have. There are no other jobs which is why the fun aspect is very nonexistent because people treat this game as a job. This will be Kyle's seventh season in a row 

 

My memory is definitely bad because I don't remember clutching my pearls like this when it aired lol.

Because it is now being blown out or proportion

you never watched when it happened then bc it was the biggest uproar in survivor community ever. That whole season but that episode in particular made them both go into hiding.

 

Kyle has made it very clear he's coming as long as they're asking. But no one should ever do 7 in a row. That's just ridiculous

I dont know if I see it being a problem that this is a job but that doesnt mean he needs to do every season

ChampionDarrell I'm interested in knowing what you think happened because Kelley, the victim, even said that the producers were largely to blame because they didn't tell the cast what was going on. You also have to realize being out there for 39 days takes a toll on you. You won't always do the things that you normally would because you are starving, you are burned out and you aren't thinking correctly. She's apologized for it, Kelley and Missy are fine, so it sounds like you need to move on.

 

 

My memory is definitely bad because I don't remember clutching my pearls like this when it aired lol.

Because it is now being blown out or proportion

you never watched when it happened then bc it was the biggest uproar in survivor community ever. That whole season but that episode in particular made them both go into hiding.

 

No it wasn't and I did watch it. You're just being your normal ridiculous self here. 

I dont know if I see it being a problem that this is a job but that doesnt mean he needs to do every season

She was only put on Up In The Air.. not the most likely list.. chill, all this discussion for nothing, probably just another rookie (like David) who only received the availability call lol

Survivor fans going in an "uproar" without taking any of the context into question is why i don't like that show much to begin with. it's just very good ole boy and boring.

y'all comparing shit like that to racism speaks more about y'all than anything else 

nvm

it's super weird they'll refuse to cast Dee - and very publicly, performatively fire her - over some problematic tweets (that honestly could've been so much worse) but want to cast someone who weaponized and trivialized sexual misconduct.

What Missy and Elizabeth did can't be compared to being a racist.. not even close.

**** at people really saying it wasn't a big deal. why do you think they slapped a parental advisory warning on the episode then? because it was BAD.

y'all have your opinions, whatever. but MTV is gonna come across as massively hypocritical if they cast Missy, who was an instrumental part of why that episode was so uncomfortable, after making such a huge deal about Dee and Taylor.

production has shown they'll cast anyone from anywhere. so why they chose Missy, who has all this controversy surrounding her time on Survivor, instead of the literal dozens of Survivor women they can get, is baffling. full stop.

I'm certain she won't make it on. & also I'm done arguing about it. keep minimizing all you want - but it's repellant behaviour.

it's super weird they'll refuse to cast Dee - and very publicly, performatively fire her - over some problematic tweets (that honestly could've been so much worse) but want to cast someone who weaponized and trivialized sexual misconduct.

What Missy and Elizabeth did can't be compared to being a racist.. not even close.

they'll compare it all day because they don't actually give a **** about racism. it's the same users with their predictable opinions. not shocked at a single one of them and how their brain operates 

what is Missy & Elizabeth did is not comparable to racism, no, but MTV made it clear they're taking a hard line against problematic behaviour - let's remember Rogan and Bear were cancelled not for racism but other controversial tweets and actions - and Missy could literally be a poster child for that.

 

 

 

My memory is definitely bad because I don't remember clutching my pearls like this when it aired lol.

Because it is now being blown out or proportion

you never watched when it happened then bc it was the biggest uproar in survivor community ever. That whole season but that episode in particular made them both go into hiding.

 

No it wasn't and I did watch it. You're just being your normal ridiculous self here. 

you're a ******* idiot as usual 

it's super weird they'll refuse to cast Dee - and very publicly, performatively fire her - over some problematic tweets (that honestly could've been so much worse) but want to cast someone who weaponized and trivialized sexual misconduct.

What Missy and Elizabeth did can't be compared to being a racist.. not even close.

 

 

 

 

My memory is definitely bad because I don't remember clutching my pearls like this when it aired lol.

Because it is now being blown out or proportion

you never watched when it happened then bc it was the biggest uproar in survivor community ever. That whole season but that episode in particular made them both go into hiding.

 

No it wasn't and I did watch it. You're just being your normal ridiculous self here. 

you're a ******* idiot as usual 

**** at people really saying it wasn't a big deal. why do you think they slapped a parental advisory warning on the episode then? because it was BAD.

y'all have your opinions, whatever. but MTV is gonna come across as massively hypocritical if they cast Missy, who was an instrumental part of why that episode was so uncomfortable, after making such a huge deal about Dee and Taylor.

production has shown they'll cast anyone from anywhere. so why they chose Missy, who has all this controversy surrounding her time on Survivor, instead of the literal dozens of Survivor women they can get, is baffling. full stop.

I'm certain she won't make it on. & also I'm done arguing about it. keep minimizing all you want - but it's repellant behaviour.

people trying to minimize this are trash, the standards are hitting newer lows by the day. 

yeah I'm done talking about it too. waiting for final cast list and will pretend they both aren't even being considered.

MTV set a precedent for literally nobody being on the show, it's okay to just admit they showed out to patronize in the midst of BLM. why are y'all giving them any credit like they give a **** about that 

what is Missy & Elizabeth did is not comparable to racism, no, but MTV made it clear they're taking a hard line against problematic behaviour - let's remember Rogan and Bear were cancelled not for racism but other controversial tweets and actions - and Missy could literally be a poster child for that.

anyway i'm acting like i care or not if she's on, i forgot she existed until now. there's better options but y'all comparing that shit to racism was so mind numbingly dumb i couldn't believe it. 

Actually no wait i can believe it let me take that back 

i get the not wanting problamatic people when its someone who is a genuine racist (cause i sure as **** dont want people like that cast)

but ya'll really want a cast filled with Darrells, Kaycees, Leroys, Joss', Corys, Amber Bs that provide absolutely nothing from an entertainment perspective? 

i get the not wanting problamatic people when its someone who is a genuine racist (cause i sure as **** dont want people like that cast)

but ya'll really want a cast filled with Darrells, Kaycees, Leroys, Joss', Corys, Amber Bs that provide absolutely nothing from an entertainment perspective? 

as if missy or Tommy is even close to entertaining when they were on the most boring season of survivor even before their toxic behavior

 

anyway i'm acting like i care or not if she's on, i forgot she existed until now. there's better options but y'all comparing that shit to racism was so mind numbingly dumb i couldn't believe it. 

Actually no wait i can believe it let me take that back 

You know these folks lack brain cells. 

it's either MTV keeps this as a trashy reality show (with people like Jordan Nia Dee Angela Rogan) or they keep the same energy and refuse to cast people who capitalized off someone's sexual discomfort along with racists, drunk drivers, and abusers

 

i get the not wanting problamatic people when its someone who is a genuine racist (cause i sure as **** dont want people like that cast)

but ya'll really want a cast filled with Darrells, Kaycees, Leroys, Joss', Corys, Amber Bs that provide absolutely nothing from an entertainment perspective? 

as if missy or Tommy is even close to entertaining when they were on the most boring season of survivor even before their toxic behavior

 

lol i never said i was talking about them specifically, i havent watched survivor in years other than quickly watching the tribal council clip with Missy this morning when yall started talking about them, i meant it more in a general sense and from the short clip it seems like Missy at least has a personality of some form

Darrell aint on this boo, why dont u go suck his **** in the all star thread instead

it's either MTV keeps this as a trashy reality show (with people like Jordan Nia Dee Angela Rogan) or they keep the same energy and refuse to cast people who capitalized off someone's sexual discomfort along with racists, drunk drivers, and abusers

i do agree with this in the sense that it appears they cant make their mind up on whether they should continue being performative activists or not....

IMO there is some form of CBS influence on this show now and has been since the merger which is why we have been seeing less and less entertainment and more and more focus on it being "a sport"

 

 

i get the not wanting problamatic people when its someone who is a genuine racist (cause i sure as **** dont want people like that cast)

but ya'll really want a cast filled with Darrells, Kaycees, Leroys, Joss', Corys, Amber Bs that provide absolutely nothing from an entertainment perspective? 

as if missy or Tommy is even close to entertaining when they were on the most boring season of survivor even before their toxic behavior

 

lol i never said i was talking about them specifically, i havent watched survivor in years other than quickly watching the tribal council clip with Missy this morning when yall started talking about them, i meant it more in a general sense and from the short clip it seems like Missy at least has a personality of some form

Darrell aint on this boo, why dont u go suck his **** in the all star thread instead

so you haven't watched survivor in years except a short clip of missy. Got it **** 

and I didn't even mention Darrell. I'm talking about the rookie class and then choosing possibly the worst 2 survivors possible. People are never going to want survivor people ever on the show if they are cast 

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