For those ex on the beach viewers did Ashley Cain and Joss fought on that show?
If you care, their rivalry comes from before the show (it might be squashed now). Before EOTB season 1, Joss and Ashley were friends and Joss had a girlfriend. Joss and his girlfriend broke up, then Ashley started dating her, so the two of them stopped being friends. Then they all ended up on the show and the fought, as other people have already mentioned
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
A better alliance is being created and the young flops will continue doing what they do best flopping. Hopefully if Hunter comes back he make new friends and leave that ship.
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
A better alliance is being created and the young flops will continue doing what they do best flopping. Hopefully if Hunter comes back he make new friends and leave that ship.
yah the new alliance that Nelson is a part of with brad, joss and devin that will be in the edit on 32. You have to have numbers to make dents in the game. 3 vs the house was never going to work. It is ridiculous to hate on them for not becoming a bottom ***** for the vet alliance and just being a dario and getting cut mid game. At least they are doing something different. devin is perfect for them He needs them and they need him. Brains is the 1 thing they are missing.
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
Invasion guaranteed 2 underdogs/weaker competitors would make the final. They're very lucky they didn't have to compete against the champs in eliminations. An alliance doesn't work without someone with a brain...the young bucks will never be relevant in the grand scheme of things
I have never got this logic. it is the exact same as the teams era. it ensures that people from both sides will make the final. but why does invasion underdogs get so much shit for making the final with the exact same rules as every team challenge? they made it farther than everyone on their team. lets just hate on the whole team era where people made the final because they benefitted from the rules that people from both teams had to make the final.
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
To be fair though they weren't aligned on Invasion. Hunter/Nelson were along with the lavender ladies and Nelson/Cory had a secret alliance but Cory and Hunter were in opposing alliances on the underdog team.
exactly. this is even more impressive. people say they do not know how to play the game but hunter and nelly working with the lavender ladies showed a lot of strategical chops and that alliance controlled the whole game on invasion from the underdogs side.
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
Invasion guaranteed 2 underdogs/weaker competitors would make the final. They're very lucky they didn't have to compete against the champs in eliminations. An alliance doesn't work without someone with a brain...the young bucks will never be relevant in the grand scheme of things
I have never got this logic. it is the exact same as the teams era. it ensures that people from both sides will make the final. but why does invasion underdogs get so much shit for making the final with the exact same rules as every team challenge? they made it farther than everyone on their team. lets just hate on the whole team era where people made the final because they benefitted from the rules that people from both teams had to make the final.
What? In the team era one team wasn't stacked with the losers on the other side with the possible excpetion on The Ruins and we saw exactly how many people from The Challengers made the final AND they had to compete against The Champs. This was the ONLY challenge in which a set number of people made it from each team other than Sexes. And this wasn't a team challenge. It was an individual challenge in which the best four male competitors were all on one team which is why an out-of-shape CT beat Cory & Nelson. Darrell, John & even Zach were all better than any one of the underdogs.
Ceej3 wrote:The young bucks aren't THAT bad they just suck at the social aspect of the game, don't have any type of strategy, and they don't have numbers. They need to recruit some numbers as well as some girls into their alliance.
Exactly they suck lol They lack everything for an alliance to be sucessful.
With that logic only the vet alliance is the only alliance to be successful. Except 2 of them made the final on invasion and hunter was close. On dirty 30 Hunter almost made the final by himself and Nelson made it far till he got DQ'd. Marie and Sylvia said on the you killed it podcast that Joss, Brad, Nelson, Shane, Vic and Devin were working together on 31 and by proxxy so was britni and jem. They pivoted when they need to and tried something different. People hate on the young bucks but **** it takes time to crack the vet alliance. only now are the cracks beginning to start. They expect them to be like JEK or something and have the whole house working with them off the bat.
To be fair though they weren't aligned on Invasion. Hunter/Nelson were along with the lavender ladies and Nelson/Cory had a secret alliance but Cory and Hunter were in opposing alliances on the underdog team.
exactly. this is even more impressive. people say they do not know how to play the game but hunter and nelly working with the lavender ladies showed a lot of strategical chops and that alliance controlled the whole game on invasion from the underdogs side.
They didn't even understand the strategy being used...see Nelson flipping out on Shane
I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren’t going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.
In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
Ceej3 wrote:I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
Did you just refer to Marie as one of my favorites? Kailah's performed better than Nelson IMO throughout her time on the show.
Again, I like Hunter. Cory seems like a great father but he's an awful competitor. None of the three have a brain.
Ceej3 wrote:I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
Kailah have win multiple eliminations too and basically only have lost 1 too. Sylvia is another one with a good an elimination record so far. Descent for 3 seasons and 2 seasons.
I personally don't think Marie is that great of a competitor....
PinkRose wrote:For those ex on the beach viewers did Ashley Cain and Joss fought on that show?
If you care, their rivalry comes from before the show (it might be squashed now). Before EOTB season 1, Joss and Ashley were friends and Joss had a girlfriend. Joss and his girlfriend broke up, then Ashley started dating her, so the two of them stopped being friends. Then they all ended up on the show and the fought, as other people have already mentioned
That girl friend is a reality tv personality?
Yeah, Talitha Minnis.
https://www.instagram.com/talithaminnis/?hl=en
She was only on the first season. She just seemed like a nice, normal, level-headed person, I don't remember her causing any big fights, which is probably why she never came back.
Btw I have never say he is a bad physical competitor....I am just saying he is dumb and his young bucks alliance is flopping, both things has been proven by now.
Ceej3 wrote:I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
Kailah have win multiple eliminations too and basically only have lost 1 too. Sylvia is another one with a good an elimination record so far. Descent for 3 seasons and 2 seasons.
I personally don't think Marie is that great of a competitor....
I think Ana tried to kill herself... praying for herupdate: she did try and kill herself. Police found her in time though
Oh no!
Praying for her that’s a miracle she was found in time. The thought of another headline about a deceased cast member saddens me. I really hope she gets the help she needs. Her account is private can you keep us updated on it? I noticed Nia and Avery follow her I hope they contact her.
Ceej3 wrote:I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren't going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
First of all I didn't mention Marie, I think Nelson and Hunter are better competitors than her for sure. Second of all I can't stand Kailah but I'd put her on the same level as those two. Lastly, I've supported and been a fan of Nelson since Rivals 3 and the same for Hunter since Dirty 30 (couldn't stand him on Invasion). I didn't say they suck or anything I was just pointing out that they weren't strategists. To Debut's point that is correct that's how most alliances are started but if they weren't friends/hooking up those two would've been on the outs like they were on Dirty 30.
Ok I do not understand. People say the young bucks need to link up with strategists. I agree. Ok they did that on invasion. But yet they get no credit for it because they did not know the benefit of it? Clearly they did or they would of just gone with cory. Shane and Nelly have never been close. He wanted shane out so his boy cory could slide in to the lavender ladies alliance. The reason it has not worked as well since is because amanda and ashley lasted for a grand total of like 2 days or whatever in the main house on dirty 30 and were not even on 31. If amanda and ashley were on 31 and lasted/stayed on dirty 30 everything changes. sylvia would of not been with the dolphins she would of been with amanda/ashley/young bucks/shane which would of brought in V and jemmye. Like yah they are dumb but that is why it did not matter on invasion because they let amanda and smash do all the strategical shit. Going forward it is why devin will be with them. He needs better physical competitors on their side and they need brains which I admit they lack.
Ok I do not understand. People say the young bucks need to link up with strategists. I agree. Ok they did that on invasion. But yet they get no credit for it because they did not know the benefit of it? Clearly they did or they would of just gone with cory. Shane and Nelly have never been close. He wanted shane out so his boy cory could slide in to the lavender ladies alliance. The reason it has not worked as well since is because amanda and ashley lasted for a grand total of like 2 days or whatever in the main house on dirty 30 and were not even on 31. If amanda and ashley were on 31 and lasted/stayed on dirty 30 everything changes. sylvia would of not been with the dolphins she would of been with amanda/ashley/young bucks/shane which would of brought in V and jemmye. Like yah they are dumb but that is why it did not matter on invasion because they let amanda and smash do all the strategical shit. Going forward it is why devin will be with them. He needs better physical competitors on their side and they need brains which I admit they lack.
I didn't say they didn't understand that they benefitted from it I said they didn't understand the strategy behind it. Furthermore had Ashley M. and Amanda stayed on Dirty 30 it wouldn't have mattered because it would've been those 5 agaisnt the whole house and possibly add Britni/Nelson but I don't think they would've had an affect. Secondly your point about Vendettas is true however I do think that Sylvia still would've aligned with the dolphins as well thus creating a bigger alliance of The Lavendar Ladies/The Dolphins/Veronica/Jemmye/Devin/Young Bucks. But that still might've not made a difference because look who's been dominating the Troika thus far. I don't think it changes much with the addition of Amanda/Ashley.
The only other “new” faction I can think of is Devin/Tony/Brad possibly and Tony isn’t on this season and Devin/Brad didn’t make the final last time either so they don’t look like they are making any more dents than anyone else. Joss will work with Nelson and company he’s closer too them. Truthfully none of it will matter CT and those aligned with him will be in the final on the male side
Basically, Joss revealed that he and Ashley's girlfriend kissed, and it was a big dramatic plot point for like 2 episodes, and it led to Ashley confronting him and breaking things off with the girl. In the final argument of the season, Joss was on the opposing side of Ashley, and its when Ashley got sent home, so ya, they did fight.
Btw I have never say he is a bad physical competitor....I am just saying he is dumb and his young bucks alliance is flopping, both things has been proven by now.
That’s absolutely true ! Him being dumb is the most frustrating thing about him.
The only other “new” faction I can think of is Devin/Tony/Brad possibly and Tony isn’t on this season and Devin/Brad didn’t make the final last time either so they don’t look like they are making any more dents than anyone else. Joss will work with Nelson and company he’s closer too them. Truthfully none of it will matter CT and those aligned with him will be in the final on the male side
This is what me and a friend were discussing. IT IS CT not bananas who everyone needs to try and get out now early. That would open the game and house wide open. CT has never been eliminated before the last elimination before a final in his career. EVER unless he got dq'd. John has been proven time and time again that his weakness is eliminations and you can get him out early. With CT everyone is just so scared of him he barely even sees a elimination. He is to great at the daily challenges to leave him in the game for so long because his alliance will dictate who is always in eliminations.
Nelson and Cory are just so inconsistent. Nelson will be the top performer today but come in last the next 4 challenges. Luckily Nelson is good at eliminations or he would go home early all the time. Cory isn't as bad at dailies but he's average at eliminations and with his huge target nowadays I don't think he'll ever make it past halfway anymore as long as Bananas is around.
That girl friend is a reality tv personality?
A better alliance is being created and the young flops will continue doing what they do best flopping. Hopefully if Hunter comes back he make new friends and leave that ship.
yah the new alliance that Nelson is a part of with brad, joss and devin that will be in the edit on 32. You have to have numbers to make dents in the game. 3 vs the house was never going to work. It is ridiculous to hate on them for not becoming a bottom ***** for the vet alliance and just being a dario and getting cut mid game. At least they are doing something different. devin is perfect for them He needs them and they need him. Brains is the 1 thing they are missing.
I have never got this logic. it is the exact same as the teams era. it ensures that people from both sides will make the final. but why does invasion underdogs get so much shit for making the final with the exact same rules as every team challenge? they made it farther than everyone on their team. lets just hate on the whole team era where people made the final because they benefitted from the rules that people from both teams had to make the final.
exactly. this is even more impressive. people say they do not know how to play the game but hunter and nelly working with the lavender ladies showed a lot of strategical chops and that alliance controlled the whole game on invasion from the underdogs side.
What? In the team era one team wasn't stacked with the losers on the other side with the possible excpetion on The Ruins and we saw exactly how many people from The Challengers made the final AND they had to compete against The Champs. This was the ONLY challenge in which a set number of people made it from each team other than Sexes. And this wasn't a team challenge. It was an individual challenge in which the best four male competitors were all on one team which is why an out-of-shape CT beat Cory & Nelson. Darrell, John & even Zach were all better than any one of the underdogs.
They didn't even understand the strategy being used...see Nelson flipping out on Shane
I agree with kvm Hunter and Nelson did not understand the strategy they just knew they weren’t going in if the whole team voted. They only benefited b/c Nelson is close with Amanda and Ashley & Hunter were hooking up. That strategy was all Amanda/Ashley/Shane.
I mean shit. That's how pretty much most alliances on this show work anyways ****.
TBH Jesus Christ !!! But it's not Marie so... obviously he's wrong.
In waiting, he made a final and finished 2nd on his first full season, and has already a really good elimination record in only 4 seasons; when will their faves tho ? When will Marie ? Kailah ? EXACTLY !
Did you just refer to Marie as one of my favorites? Kailah's performed better than Nelson IMO throughout her time on the show.
Again, I like Hunter. Cory seems like a great father but he's an awful competitor. None of the three have a brain.
Kailah have win multiple eliminations too and basically only have lost 1 too. Sylvia is another one with a good an elimination record so far. Descent for 3 seasons and 2 seasons.
I personally don't think Marie is that great of a competitor....
Yeah, Talitha Minnis.
https://www.instagram.com/talithaminnis/?hl=en
She was only on the first season. She just seemed like a nice, normal, level-headed person, I don't remember her causing any big fights, which is probably why she never came back.
Marie is better than Jodi dont @ me
Btw I have never say he is a bad physical competitor....I am just saying he is dumb and his young bucks alliance is flopping, both things has been proven by now.
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I think Ana tried to kill herself... praying for her
update: she did try and kill herself. Police found her in time though
Overrated Jenna, Aneesa, and Marie >>>>>> Potato, Anthony, Johnny/Jessica
Oh no!
Praying for her that’s a miracle she was found in time. The thought of another headline about a deceased cast member saddens me. I really hope she gets the help she needs. Her account is private can you keep us updated on it? I noticed Nia and Avery follow her I hope they contact her.
And she is instagramming it making jokes?
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First of all I didn't mention Marie, I think Nelson and Hunter are better competitors than her for sure. Second of all I can't stand Kailah but I'd put her on the same level as those two. Lastly, I've supported and been a fan of Nelson since Rivals 3 and the same for Hunter since Dirty 30 (couldn't stand him on Invasion). I didn't say they suck or anything I was just pointing out that they weren't strategists. To Debut's point that is correct that's how most alliances are started but if they weren't friends/hooking up those two would've been on the outs like they were on Dirty 30.
Ok I do not understand. People say the young bucks need to link up with strategists. I agree. Ok they did that on invasion. But yet they get no credit for it because they did not know the benefit of it? Clearly they did or they would of just gone with cory. Shane and Nelly have never been close. He wanted shane out so his boy cory could slide in to the lavender ladies alliance. The reason it has not worked as well since is because amanda and ashley lasted for a grand total of like 2 days or whatever in the main house on dirty 30 and were not even on 31. If amanda and ashley were on 31 and lasted/stayed on dirty 30 everything changes. sylvia would of not been with the dolphins she would of been with amanda/ashley/young bucks/shane which would of brought in V and jemmye. Like yah they are dumb but that is why it did not matter on invasion because they let amanda and smash do all the strategical shit. Going forward it is why devin will be with them. He needs better physical competitors on their side and they need brains which I admit they lack.
I didn't say they didn't understand that they benefitted from it I said they didn't understand the strategy behind it. Furthermore had Ashley M. and Amanda stayed on Dirty 30 it wouldn't have mattered because it would've been those 5 agaisnt the whole house and possibly add Britni/Nelson but I don't think they would've had an affect. Secondly your point about Vendettas is true however I do think that Sylvia still would've aligned with the dolphins as well thus creating a bigger alliance of The Lavendar Ladies/The Dolphins/Veronica/Jemmye/Devin/Young Bucks. But that still might've not made a difference because look who's been dominating the Troika thus far. I don't think it changes much with the addition of Amanda/Ashley.
The only other “new” faction I can think of is Devin/Tony/Brad possibly and Tony isn’t on this season and Devin/Brad didn’t make the final last time either so they don’t look like they are making any more dents than anyone else. Joss will work with Nelson and company he’s closer too them. Truthfully none of it will matter CT and those aligned with him will be in the final on the male side
Basically, Joss revealed that he and Ashley's girlfriend kissed, and it was a big dramatic plot point for like 2 episodes, and it led to Ashley confronting him and breaking things off with the girl. In the final argument of the season, Joss was on the opposing side of Ashley, and its when Ashley got sent home, so ya, they did fight.
Any ideas on the format? I’m hoping something Inferno. Madison (w/o Tony) and Jozea make it doubtful its Exes
That’s absolutely true ! Him being dumb is the most frustrating thing about him.
This is what me and a friend were discussing. IT IS CT not bananas who everyone needs to try and get out now early. That would open the game and house wide open. CT has never been eliminated before the last elimination before a final in his career. EVER unless he got dq'd. John has been proven time and time again that his weakness is eliminations and you can get him out early. With CT everyone is just so scared of him he barely even sees a elimination. He is to great at the daily challenges to leave him in the game for so long because his alliance will dictate who is always in eliminations.
Nelson and Cory are just so inconsistent. Nelson will be the top performer today but come in last the next 4 challenges. Luckily Nelson is good at eliminations or he would go home early all the time. Cory isn't as bad at dailies but he's average at eliminations and with his huge target nowadays I don't think he'll ever make it past halfway anymore as long as Bananas is around.
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