The Challenge: Generic Thread

[QUOTE=riggins;435314]Laurel could be debatable ( [I]I guess[/I] ) but Evelyn is definitely on another level.[/QUOTE] Hard to deny Evelyn as she was a rarity on these shows: she was intelligent, was determined to win (strong will), and could back it up physically.

[QUOTE=Npresh24;435268]So between D.C-San Diego 2 , who do you think production should have involved? So FM2-Exes. I would say D.C: Callie , Emily , Josh , Ty The other 4 I couldn't imagine making any waves on a challenge NOLA: Ashlee , Jemmye , Knight ,Ryan Preston is vile more so than Ryan and the other 3 don't have strong personalities. Vegas: Adam , Cooke, Dustin, Naomi The others didn't engage me enough as proven by Leroy San Diego: Alex, Frank , Priscilla and Zach The others were just a mess, I still forget Ashley/Sam are champions.[/QUOTE] DC: I literally would love to see any of this cast back. Erika was my favorite, and Ashley could have brought the D R A M A. Mike seemed like a good competitor and an awesomely likable guy. Josh seemed like he could create drama, even if he was a tad bland on the season. Callie was low-key, but she was very likable. I think she was a runner or something as well? And Andrew just has a great personality. New Orleans: I can see why they invite back Jemmye and Knight. They create a lot of drama wherever they go. Preston, I'm not sure about, but I will admit that he grew on me a bit on Free Agents. Ryan would have been crazy on a Challenge. I would have liked to see Ashlee compete because she seemed like she could have been a good competitor. I also really liked Sahar and wanted to see her back. I like McKenzie and she's cute, but I'm not dying to see her back. Eric was extremely boring and I didn't want him on a Challenge. Las Vegas: Nany, Dustin, and Leroy obviously seem to have become regulars. I would have liked to see Cooke and Heather on at least one more. Naomi can stay home - I like her, but she's not a good competitor, plus she has good things going for her in life right now. And of course how could I not want MIKE MIKE to make a return?! I never liked Adam, nor did I like watching him, so I'm glad he's not gonna come back. San Diego: Alexandra Govere is truly my love. She is an amazing human being! I completely understand and fully support her decision not to do a Challenge, though. Frank grew on me on Free Agents. I wish he would do another one. Zach is obviously a regular. Priscilla was cute. I would like to see her again. Ashley is awfully boring, but I'd like to see her back just to see her compete. I'd like to see Sam back too. I never liked Nate or watching him, so he can stay home.

[QUOTE=Npresh24;435268]So between D.C-San Diego 2 , who do you think production should have involved? So FM2-Exes. I would say D.C: Callie , Emily , Josh , Ty The other 4 I couldn't imagine making any waves on a challenge NOLA: Ashlee , Jemmye , Knight ,Ryan Preston is vile more so than Ryan and the other 3 don't have strong personalities. Vegas: Adam , Cooke, Dustin, Naomi The others didn't engage me enough as proven by Leroy San Diego: Alex, Frank , Priscilla and Zach The others were just a mess, I still forget Ashley/Sam are champions.[/QUOTE] DC-Andrew was a great personality and he was one of the main stars of that Season. Same with Ashley. She would've got into it with someone and made some noise. Josh was lackluster but I feel like he would cause some drama too. He could be involved in some trashy, Messy hook-ups calle..She's low key and we need people on this show who aren't thirsty. Ty was a good choice and Emily was too but I'd pick Ashley and Erika over her. Speaking of Erika..I think she would be Drama too. New Orleans 2-I'd want to See how Ashlee, Eric, Sahar, and Ryan fare. I feel like each of them would bring something to the challenge. Entertainment wise or competitive wise. Vegas-Adam. I think he should be give another shot. He would've ruffled some feathers had he stayed on Rivals and did more challenges after that. San Diego-Frank, and Nate definetly.

So who's looking like the biggest stretch when it comes to "Exes". I hope we don't anything like on Rivals 2 where they paired Frank with Johnny.

[QUOTE=WittyWrath;435338]So who's looking like the biggest stretch when it comes to "Exes". I hope we don't anything like on Rivals 2 where they paired Frank with Johnny.[/QUOTE] well it seems that is nany and johnny the hook up wasnt on camera, but then again most of this pairs only kissed once on camera so..

Atleast the Nany/Bananas fling lasted like a year or so. That is like saying Zach/Ashlee couldn't be paired for Exes just because it was never on camera. It makes more sense than people who kissed once or flirted.

I just hope that production throws a curveball to the format, (if it ends up been exes) I hope we have some surprises, like switching partners, or changing the vote system, if not the challenge its going to be really predictable, not to mention the cast is not going to be shock or anything because they already know what to expect.

I do not think Cara Maria sucked at other challenges before FA. I mean, she can not swim but she wasn't THAT bad other things. I think she is quite smart(Rivals finale and Rivals 2 last challenge memory things she did good) and does not give up what is lovely. I feel like some people are saying like she was the WORST before FA...

[QUOTE=WittyWrath;435338]So who's looking like the biggest stretch when it comes to "Exes". I hope we don't anything like on Rivals 2 where they paired Frank with Johnny.[/QUOTE] I don't think it will be a whole lot of Stretches this time around. I think pretty much all of the teams would be legit in some way. If there are stretches(Which they probably will be).I think the biggest stretch would probably be Nia and Leroy or Cory and Ashley M.

[QUOTE=kollanekoer;435343]I do not think Cara Maria sucked at other challenges before FA. I mean, she can not swim but she wasn't THAT bad other things. I think she is quite smart(Rivals finale and Rivals 2 last challenge memory things she did good) and does not give up what is lovely. I feel like some people are saying like she was the WORST before FA...[/QUOTE] I think Cara was Decent before Free Agents honestly.

[QUOTE=nevidcm;435254]I don't know if I'm the only one that think this, but I feel like Knight is really smart. He may act like a fool, but I just get that vibe about him. I don't like him so I'm not being biased.[/QUOTE] I don't see that in any shape or form. He's one of the delusional few on The Challenge who thinks they are on a higher level than they actually are. I always found it funny that he used to laugh at Preston when he sucked half of the time too.

[QUOTE=kollanekoer;435343]I do not think Cara Maria sucked at other challenges before FA. I mean, she can not swim but she wasn't THAT bad other things. I think she is quite smart(Rivals finale and Rivals 2 last challenge memory things she did good) and does not give up what is lovely. I feel like some people are saying like she was the WORST before FA...[/QUOTE] I agree, I think CM has always been a good competitor. I think she just stood out as being this great competitor on FA because people were actually supporting her. This was the first season where people actually liked her.

[QUOTE=stuufman;435342]I just hope that production throws a curveball to the format, (if it ends up been exes) I hope we have some surprises, like switching partners, or changing the vote system, if not the challenge its going to be really predictable, not to mention the cast is not going to be shock or anything because they already know what to expect.[/QUOTE] How switching partners would make sense to an exes format? That a lot of MTV regulars viewers just watch to supposedly see people that "dated" each other work together. That's the concept of that specific theme. Hint- The cast wasn't shock for the first exes and seasons 2 one thing is that they reshoot and tell them to acted surprised lol The only times they have been surprised since Rivals was rivals 2 because rivalry were so stretch, that not even the cast figure out. Also, for Free agents because oh well it was a new format. [QUOTE=stuufman;435339]well it seems that is nany and johnny the hook up wasnt on camera, but then again most of this pairs only kissed once on camera so..[/QUOTE] **** but the hookup lasted more ( 1 year 1/2) more than challenge hookups the only lasted the couple of days they were on the challenge so it's more legitimate than Jess/Dustin, Nia/Leroy or Jordan, Nate/Priscilla, vinny/Sarah, Tyrie/Jasmine, Swift/Jasmine or Toya.

1. I have no idea how Elka would translate but she was the best of the very old school--pre-Ruthie. Maybe Genesis. 2. Evelyn is in a league of her own as a competitor...Laurel, Emily S, Rachel R, Holly S & Emily B are probably the only ones that could have ever beat her 3. Worst champion: Sam and it really isn't even close 4. Best non-champion: Probably Ruthie

Wouldn't a off camera hook up being less legit than one that can be backed up with footage? I don't even remember Bananas/Nany interacting on Rivals or Free Agents.

[QUOTE=Npresh24;435354]Wouldn't a off camera hook up being less legit than one that can be backed up with footage? I don't even remember Bananas/Nany interacting on Rivals or Free Agents.[/QUOTE] Not necessarily, it depends on the way you look at it some people can think like that. I personally think it's more legit than a hook up that only happened for a few days of 6 weeks instead of a year 1.5 year lol They didn't have no footage of Camila/Bananas in the bathroom similar to what can happen of Leroy/Nia if they end together on an exes 2 if this end being an exes 2. ANother example of this is Bananas/Frank no footage but there was twitter...Nany/Bananas have a lot of flirty tweets/He taking pictures of her driving him around after a long night those tweets were persistent for a year and half not just an hour twitter war. I posted an screenshot of all those tweets like 2 weeks ago. The regular viewers just need 5 minutes of the team explaining why they are together at the beginning of the 1 episode and they will believed everything/anything lol until this day people think Frank/Bananas, Leroy/TY and even Tyrie/Dunbar were legit rivalries. It would be amazing and hilarious if it doesn;t being exes 2.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;435350]1. I have no idea how Elka would translate but she was the best of the very old school--pre-Ruthie. Maybe Genesis. 2. Evelyn is in a league of her own as a competitor...Laurel, Emily S, Rachel R, Holly S & Emily B are probably the only ones that could have ever beat her 3. Worst champion: Sam and it really isn't even close 4. Best non-champion: Probably Ruthie[/QUOTE] Genesis? Genesis wasn't even top 5 on Battle of the Sexes

[QUOTE=kvm1977;435350]1. I have no idea how Elka would translate but she was the best of the very old school--pre-Ruthie. Maybe Genesis. 2. Evelyn is in a league of her own as a competitor...Laurel, Emily S, Rachel R, Holly S & Emily B are probably the only ones that could have ever beat her 3. Worst champion: Sam and it really isn't even close 4. Best non-champion: Probably Ruthie[/QUOTE] I would DIE if Genesis came back (Okay, I probably wouldn't literally die, but I'd be super happy).

[QUOTE=Npresh24;435354]Wouldn't a off camera hook up being less legit than one that can be backed up with footage? I don't even remember Bananas/Nany interacting on Rivals or Free Agents.[/QUOTE] I don't understand this logic at all

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;435357]Genesis? Genesis wasn't even top 5 on Battle of the Sexes[/QUOTE] Which is why I said Elka. Genesis was a solid player that season. Above average. Not great.

[QUOTE=riggins;435314]Laurel could be debatable ( [I]I guess[/I] ) but Evelyn is definitely on another level.[/QUOTE] 8-0 in eliminations Always makes the final Never let's the game break her down Never throws eliminations Laurel is the greatest. Evelyn is 2nd best.

[QUOTE=DarkFights;435291]I Don't think Elka was that impressive during her 2 seasons appearances, I really haven't watched the first Battle Of The Seasons, and on the Gauntlet she wasn't that impressive[/QUOTE] I so disagree. Elka was part of the Ultimate Team for RW on BOTS. She was always consistent & was always a fighter. The only blight on her record is that astonishing loss to Cara Z in The Gauntlet. But considering Cara also took out Theo, I am just guessing she has some amazing thigh muscles.

[QUOTE=JayTee;435362]8-0 in eliminations Always makes the final Never let's the game break her down Never throws eliminations Laurel is the greatest. Evelyn is 2nd best.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I'd take Evelyn any day because Evelyn's a better strategist and more intelligent. The quitting ****** me off but Evelyn's the best girl at this point in time. It truly is a shame we never got to see Evelyn, Laurel, Emily & Rachel on the same Individual challenge

[QUOTE=dylan76;435364]I so disagree. Elka was part of the Ultimate Team for RW on BOTS. She was always consistent & was always a fighter. The only blight on her record is that astonishing loss to Cara Z in The Gauntlet. But considering Cara also took out Theo, I am just guessing she has some amazing thigh muscles.[/QUOTE] That blight was due to an injured knee from the mission where they had to run to the center and grab a giant ball. Like half of the Real World team got hurt. And Cara Z aimed specifically for that knee. Side note, I've always thought Cara Z was underrated. Not saying she was an amazing competitor, but even the missions she threw on Inferno 3 to get Susie the Life Shield, she got good times/scores.

[QUOTE=Euroslavia;435366]Side note, I've always thought Cara Z was underrated. Not saying she was an amazing competitor, but even the missions she threw on Inferno 3 to get Susie the Life Shield, she got good times/scores.[/QUOTE] She definitely was/is better than she's given credit for

[QUOTE=kvm1977;435350]1. I have no idea how Elka would translate but she was the best of the very old school--pre-Ruthie. Maybe Genesis. 2. Evelyn is in a league of her own as a competitor...Laurel, Emily S, Rachel R, Holly S & Emily B are probably the only ones that could have ever beat her 3. Worst champion: Sam and it really isn't even close 4. Best non-champion: Probably Ruthie[/QUOTE] maybe Elka was the best on the first BOTSeasons (I didn't watch it) but she sure didn't do that much on The Gauntlet she also lost to Cara on Knock You're Block Off. Genesis was no way near great she did okay on the first BOTSexes, she was on the inner circle once and she just floated by the rest of the season. On the 2nd BOTSexes, lets just say she didn't do good (at all)

[QUOTE=DarkFights;435369]maybe Elka was the best on the first BOTSeasons (I didn't watch it) but she sure didn't do that much on The Gauntlet she also lost to Cara on Knock You're Block Off. Genesis was no way near great she did okay on the first BOTSexes, she was on the inner circle once and she just floated by the rest of the season. On the 2nd BOTSexes, lets just say she didn't do good (at all)[/QUOTE] Her losing to Cara is overblown Remember she won that first mission for the Real World On the second BOTS I have no idea how one would even judge Genesis given she lasted all of one mission

Ruthie is extremely overrated. Yes she climbed a ladder really quickly and had lucky reflexes on the slide-down-the-rope thing on Battle of the Sexes, but other than that she's never shown herself to be this amazing competitor everyone makes her out to be. On The Gauntlet 2 and The Duel 2, the only two Challenges she did which had elimination rounds, she got sent home before even making the halfway point. The only elimination round she won was against a girl who quit.

[QUOTE=toenails;435374]Ruthie is extremely overrated. .[/QUOTE] I agree with this. Her appearance on Battle of the Sexes 1 is what gave her this overrated credit. Laurel Evelyn Emily Rachel Tonya imo are the top 5 female competitors. Camila Sarah Marie Paula Kelly Anne Cooke all get get honorable mentions with possible overtake in the future.

[QUOTE=toenails;435374]Ruthie is extremely overrated. Yes she climbed a ladder really quickly and had lucky reflexes on the slide-down-the-rope thing on Battle of the Sexes, but other than that she's never shown herself to be this amazing competitor everyone makes her out to be. On The Gauntlet 2 and The Duel 2, the only two Challenges she did which had elimination rounds, she got sent home before even making the halfway point. The only elimination round she won was against a girl who quit.[/QUOTE] She lost to Beth is Reverse Tug O War....ummm....how is that held against her Kimberly beating her was shocking but crazy things can happen. Kimberly was smarter about it than Ruthie Rachel wasn't lying when she said Ruthie was her biggest competition. Ruthie just doesn't have a social game and is small.