[QUOTE=PinkRose;435285]That's the same person the potential cast think he is going to be with too...Assuming it's exes 2.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully they're in for a shocker.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;435294]I think this would be a cool discussion to have: best competitor to never win a challenges/worse to win a challenge? Especially with CT/Laurel's recent wins.[/QUOTE]
Best to never win: Shane, Sarah, and Cara Maria
Worst to win: Dunbar, Rachel M, and Johanna
[QUOTE=Euroslavia;435295]I'd recommend that you watch the first Battle of the Seasons then. Sean and Elka were pretty awesome.[/QUOTE]
This is like comparing apples to oranges though. ANYONE could participate in most of those challenges because the only real physical things you had to do were climb the ladder in the next to final mission and run on the beach in the final for maybe a quarter of a mile.
I like the old school Challenges but I prefer the competition of everything that happened from the Inferno on. This is also coming from a guy who watched the original Real World vs. Road Rules Challenge when it aired and they were going across the US in a bus and RV.
Sean and Elka were decent but when one of the games is a "jump in the pool and grab a ring" like musical chairs because the hurricane destroyed our setup is pretty lame.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;435268]So between D.C-San Diego 2 , who do you think production should have involved? So FM2-Exes.
I would say
D.C: Callie , Emily , Josh , Ty
The other 4 I couldn't imagine making any waves on a challenge
NOLA: Ashlee , Jemmye , Knight ,Ryan
Preston is vile more so than Ryan and the other 3 don't have strong personalities.
Vegas: Adam , Cooke, Dustin, Naomi
The others didn't engage me enough as proven by Leroy
San Diego: Alex, Frank , Priscilla and Zach
The others were just a mess, I still forget Ashley/Sam are champions.[/QUOTE]
DC: Emily and Ty obviously. Then I really want to see Ashley Lindley. I'm not sure why she has been snubbed from the challenges.
NOLA: I can't really comment here since this is the only recent RW season I have not seen, I'd like to see the Lebanese chick from Michigan.
Vegas: All of them except maybe Naomi. She's alright though.
SD: Frank, Zach, Ashley, Alex (not happening), Nate (this guy is hilarious)
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;435179]These last two seasons she has provided some great game drama. Her switching her vote this season, her vs. Devyn/Laurel and her mistakenly sending Leroy into an elimination and her vs. Diem. Shes definitely not useless and besides that, has gotten into some drama on other seasons as well with Camila and Jasmine. Jasmine legit has done nothing memorable these past 3 seasons. Preston had a cute storyline, I''ll give him that and I've always found Chet entertaining, especially when he was against Frank on Seasons.[/QUOTE]
Okay..These past two seasons she has been SLIGHTLY less useless but she's still a waste of a spot on these things. I mean if she stopped doing these shows I bet hardly anyone would notice. For the most part she has adds nothing to this show and I don't care how much of a competitor she is. It really means nothing considering she keeps making dumb decisions and plants herself firmly up Backpack's *******. They can easily sit her out and bring in an actual castmember..you know someone who was actually on The Real World(preferably a newer season) but yet to have appeared and wants to do one.
[QUOTE=MTV Junky;435302]DC: Emily and Ty obviously. Then I really want to see Ashley Lindley. I'm not sure why she has been snubbed from the challenges.
NOLA: I can't really comment here since this is the only recent RW season I have not seen, I'd like to see the Lebanese chick from Michigan.
Vegas: All of them except maybe Naomi. She's alright though.
SD: Frank, Zach, Ashley, Alex (not happening), Nate (this guy is hilarious)[/QUOTE]
I'm sick of Ty & Emily, I'd much rather see the other six DC cast members.
NOLA had some good characters but they were overshadowed by Ryan's antics. I would love for anyone from that season to return. Sahar and her Gravel Gertie voice, Eric always seemed like he'd be more open and fun on a challenge, Ryan was perfect villain material. Mckenzie, however, I find highly overrated.
[QUOTE=KIsOpenDoors;435303]The worst champions have to be Dummy Bear, Katie Doyle, Sam, and Rachel from Austin. MJ was also surprisingly mediocre. Who is Carlie?[/QUOTE]
Carlie/Carly not sure on spelling from Fresh Meat 2. She was paired with Lando Commando.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;435299]Best to never win: Shane, Sarah, and Cara Maria
Worst to win: Dunbar, Rachel M, and Johanna[/QUOTE]
Cara Maria, really? I mean she had a great showing on FA, besides that? Yeah.....
Gotcha. I don't know why the different spelling tripped me up so much. She was pretty bad. Shows just how good Landon was on these things.
I guess Sarah, Jenn, and Cara Maria are the best to never win. With Brad, CT and Laurel winning, almost all of the big names have won. I'd include CJ if he did more challenges, but he's only done two.
[QUOTE=datraceman;435301]This is like comparing apples to oranges though. ANYONE could participate in most of those challenges because the only real physical things you had to do were climb the ladder in the next to final mission and run on the beach in the final for maybe a quarter of a mile.
I like the old school Challenges but I prefer the competition of everything that happened from the Inferno on. This is also coming from a guy who watched the original Real World vs. Road Rules Challenge when it aired and they were going across the US in a bus and RV.
Sean and Elka were decent but when one of the games is a "jump in the pool and grab a ring" like musical chairs because the hurricane destroyed our setup is pretty lame.[/QUOTE]
A Challenge is a challenge, regardless of what specific events are on each. Even the "jump in the pool and grab a ring" required teamwork (Chadwick and Piggy lacked; Sharon and Mike had) and strategy (Sharon wouldn't jump in immediately, she would run on the cement to the ring). You could argue specifics all day "Well, this challenge had more swimming challenges, but this had more height challenges, or this had more climbing challenges", but doing well at anything means you did well.
Yeah I really like Cara Maria, but I would kind of be fine with her never winning, same for Sarah lol. They aren't good enough where them not winning already feels like a crime or something.
[QUOTE=JayTee;435208]Let's get one thing straight though: Freshmeat girls put all Real World girls to shame on these challenges.[/QUOTE]
****! You're overestimating the non-castmembers and not giving The Real World Girls enough Credit.
[QUOTE=Kid Deezy;435221]I think that was the point of FM. IMO they did that to bring some girls in that could actually compete with the guys and somewhat hold their own. I think it was a great move to have FM 1&2[/QUOTE]
No. They're just there to fill up space because one pool of cast members dried up(Road Rules).
[QUOTE=nevidcm;435230]Emily
KellyAnne
Susie
Rachel
Jodi
Kina
Veronica
Jenn
Ruthie
Coral
[B]But Evelyn and Laurel are in another level[/B].[/QUOTE]
No they aren't
[QUOTE=Kid Deezy;435279]And punching Adam in the face was CT's nature but he sure mellowed out... [B]CT/Johnny/Wes/Kenny/Evan can all **** girls off but they don't become major targets because of it[/B] and that's Knight's problem. If he learned how to get into people's heads without painting the biggest target possible on his back he would be in really good shape.
And I still think he's athletic. I know Slapper seemed like a pretty silly challenge but I promise stuff like that takes tons of coordination. He won that because he was better not because of luck[/QUOTE]
That was because they either controlled the whole house or people were afraid of them. I bet you if Knight had more leeway on the challenges then he wouldn't get **** either.
[QUOTE=riggins;435314]Laurel could be debatable ( [I]I guess[/I] ) but Evelyn is definitely on another level.[/QUOTE]
Actually to me Evelyn is the one who could be debatable and Laurel is the one on another level.
[QUOTE=DarkFights;435315]Actually to me Evelyn is the one who could be debatable and Laurel is the one on another level.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I feel like the Legend of Evelyn looms larger in my mind than in reality lol, so you could definitely be right.
Evelyn probably doesn't have the better stats, but her intensity says a lot. KA, a good competitor, couldn't even budge her on the Ruins, she killed the finals she was in, and finished an entire season and won with broken ribs, even beating Laurel in a climbing mission one on one. I think she is definitely on another level.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;435313]No. They're just there to fill up space because one pool of cast members dried up(Road Rules).[/QUOTE]
Yea because there couldn't possibly be more than one contributing factor... More athletic girls were desperately needed with ot without Road Rules. If you can't see that then there isn't much more for me to discuss about that subject with you.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;435214]Read the fantasy cast thread, didn't watch RW Hollywood, but what did Greg do that made a lot of people want him on a Challenge?[/QUOTE]
You should really go watch Real World Hollywood to understand why people want him on a challenge. The entire house hated him, he called them all peasants, his job hated him, he stole his girl roomates underwear and lied about it, he did really bizarre pranks to the roommates that he lied about. Basically he was just a weirdo.. but would be challenge gold drama wise.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;435318][URL="http://www.mtv.com/news/1867269/challenge-paula-beckert-gives-birth/"]Paula welcomes baby boy![/URL][/QUOTE]
Congrats to Her!
[QUOTE=Kid Deezy;435321]Yea because there couldn't possibly be more than one contributing factor... [B]More athletic girls were desperately needed with ot without Road Rules.[/B] If you can't see that then there isn't much more for me to discuss about that subject with you.[/QUOTE]
That is your opinion and nothing more. There was no need to put faceless "athletes" on this show who weren't on The Real World or Road Rules. You don't need to be an athlete to be on this show. If that were the case most of the people that are on this show wouldn't be cast. All that one needs to do is be on The Real World or Road Rules....well at lest back then.
[QUOTE=riggins;435269]It was just INCREDIBLE. That shot of Bananas with his mouth wide open in shock, four people being needed to hold her down including Emily, and the chair throwing. Camila is a champion in all aspects of the challenge lol.[/QUOTE]
Replace Champion with Failure and you got it right.
[QUOTE=riggins;435246]I saw somebody comment (I think it was Knight idk) that the girl's need to realize that nobody cares about their eliminations or politics. But besides the Jordan/Bananas thing, I found the girls side of this season to be 100x more interesting than the guys during free agents.[/QUOTE]
I found the guys side to be more interesting Honestly. There was no surprises with the girls. I mean there was there ever any doubt Laurel was going to win?
[QUOTE=Debut Album;435324] That is your opinion and nothing more. [B]There was no need to put faceless "athletes" on this show who weren't on The Real World or Road Rules.[/B] You don't need to be an athlete to be on this show. If that were the case most of the people that are on this show wouldn't be cast. All that one needs to do is be on The Real World or Road Rules....well at lest back then.[/QUOTE]
That is your opinion and nothing more... So like I said, there is no reason to discuss this with you any further.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;435324]Congrats to Her!
That is your opinion and nothing more. There was no need to put faceless "athletes" on this show who weren't on The Real World or Road Rules. You don't need to be an athlete to be on this show. If that were the case most of the people that are on this show wouldn't be cast. All that one needs to do is be on The Real World or Road Rules....well at lest back then.[/QUOTE]
Hypothetically had there been no Fresh Meat, Cutthroat would have had about 20 people on it. Considering two people already had to drop out beforehand, I doubt you'd be able to find 10 more people to do that format
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;435330]Hypothetically had there been no Fresh Meat, Cutthroat would have had about 20 people on it. Considering two people already had to drop out beforehand, I doubt you'd be able to find 10 more people to do that format[/QUOTE]
Then just do it with 2 teams of 10 and change the voting rules. Problem solved.
And as for the Best players to never win...Eh I think it's hard to do that one considering most of the people who are considered the best have won already.
[QUOTE=Kid Deezy;435329]That is your opinion and nothing more... So like I said, there is no reason to discuss this with you any further.[/QUOTE]
No. It's a fact......BOOM!
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