The Real Road 2: European Escapade(Game Thread)

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What are your thoughts on The Blue Lives Matter movement? Do you think all cops should be put into the same category as those who killed innocent white, black, and other minority people?

There are going to be assholes in every group...it's the way life is.

No, innocent cops should not be lumped with the crazies, but the innocents need to stand up and say that they don't stand for these incidents when they occur.

There have been some instances of violence from BLM supporters. Do you think their violence hurts the credibility of the movement?

yes, if people want to protest that's fine but what is the point of destroying your community and setting things on fire. In Milwaukee there was a BLM protest and they started burning things down and broke into a cell phone store and stole all the phones... like how is that ok and helping the BLM movement 

HonestTea101 wrote:

Would anyone like to refute this claim since you're all not supporters of ALM but Internationfan is?

ALM, to me, is used in response to whenever BLM calls for justice. ALM is nothing, to me, other than hypocrisy - if All Lives Matter, then why isn't anyone in the US concerned with what's going on in Chechnya with the gays? Where are they when Syrians want to flee their war-torn state?

But that's not what ALM is meant to stand for. Certain people use it to keep their racism under wraps but that is no different than the people abusing the other movements.

What are your initial reactions from this picture?

InternationalFan wrote:

All lives Matter for me. Here in england apart from Whites and Blacks every other minority is under constant discrimination. I understand why BLM is important but i don't see how incorporating everyone else into it, dimishes anything. The whole point of ALM is that everyone is equal. In different places, different groups are being targeted. A huge movement that targets all racism is better than individual ones disunited with each other. A global movement > National Movement.

Would anyone like to refute this claim since you're all not supporters of ALM but Internationfan is?

All Lives Matter is freaking obvious. Every little life matters on this planet BUT nobody in America are killed, oppressed, tortured more than Black people (not only throught history) but still today, since there is a narrative that Black people are the most inferior race and any other coloured race acting the same way towards us than White people. That's why the BLM was in fact created. To remind that our lives matters. We are human beings, not animals.

HonestTea101 wrote:

There have been some instances of violence from BLM supporters. Do you think their violence hurts the credibility of the movement?

yes, if people want to protest that's fine but what is the point of destroying your community and setting things on fire. In Milwaukee there was a BLM protest and they started burning things down and broke into a cell phone store and stole all the phones... like how is that ok and helping the BLM movement 

I agree with the bolded. But it honestly feels like the media only focuses on the negative aspects  - like I said a few minutes ago, the assholes should not be lumped with the innocent.

What are your initial reactions from this picture?

i have no opinion because I don't know why they are there

[size=25pt]What are your thoughts on The Blue Lives Matter movement? Do you think all cops should be put into the same category as those who killed innocent white, black, and other minority people?[/size

Ofcourse not but i think the Cops need to stop fighting it. I personally believe innocent cops feel a certain alliegance to the others and thats where they are all banded together.They need to admit that there does seem to be a problem and work to fix it. People shouldn't have to stand up against cops for what is right. 

What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

HonestTea101 wrote:

What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

Francisco wrote:

The thing with this football player not standing during the national anthem is that it serves as symbolism. Black people are killed by the cops and that's not symbolic. People may be offended, people may think is disrespectful, but in the end, is his right to protest to a real issue here, and he has all the rights to do it as he wants.

but kapernick grew up in a white household and is also not aware of what colored people really go through

Humans have what is called empathy. We can empathize with others. We don't need to go through it ourselves to understand the pain certain things can cause.

What are your initial reactions from this picture?

I quickly read te Reuters article - mindblowing is all I'll say.

Last Question.

Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

DanishBoy wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

I think this is the main problem. The lack of real facts. The media showing only what they want. It needs to be investigated by the Authorities thoroughly. Anyone can make up numbers and most have no real proof unfortunately.

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

no but it promotes segregation 

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Disagree. BLM is specific to a single race because Blacks are the targets. It's a counter to the racism that is occuring, not that Black people should be treated better than the average white person, but rather be treated equal. I still personally believe an ALM movement is a more unified and more long term approach. 

DanishBoy wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

DUUUH ! Really ? But this picture was a straight reference to that, and this girl wanted to show that Black protesters were in fact peaceful and wanted to create a dialogue with cops who wanted to hear none of it.

Also, Black people are the most incarcerated people in the USA while White people doing the most crimes, so even though White cops doesn't always killed Black people, they still treated them pretty badly and may I even say worse than any other group of people.

RLK2014 wrote:

DanishBoy wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

DUUUH ! Really ? But this picture was a straight reference to that, and this girl wanted to show that Black protesters were in fact peaceful and wanted to create a dialogue with cops who wanted to hear none of it.Also, Black people are the most incarcerated people in the USA while White people doing the most crimes, so even though White cops doesn't always killed Black people, they still treated them pretty badly and may I even say worse than any other group of people.

If you're going to say such things, gotta show the proof of such facts. 

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Disagree - the critics have it wrong. The movement is telling the rest of the USA that blacks have been gunned down for far too long, and it's time that the cops that perform these acts get the same justice as anyone else that would perform the same tactic.

HonestTea101 wrote:

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Disagree - the critics have it wrong. The movement is telling the rest of the USA that blacks have been gunned down for far too long, and it's time that the cops that perform these acts get the same justice as anyone else that would perform the same tactic.

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Disagree. Those critics didn't understand that purpose and in fact didn't want to. Because it was absolutely not the purpose of that movement. Every lives matters but unfortunately, Amercia has a dirty history with Black people who were killed and still are today, the movement wanted only to remind our lives has a worth ! Not more than anybody but just as anybody else. Nothing else

HonestTea101 wrote:

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Disagree - the critics have it wrong. The movement is telling the rest of the USA that blacks have been gunned down for far too long, and it's time that the cops that perform these acts get the same justice as anyone else that would perform the same tactic.

Said it perfectly.

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

As I said before, Black Lives Matter don't mean "All other races don't matter". It means "The black community right now have some urges we must attend, let's solve this urgently". Any race should be over any other. Sadly, not everyone sees the world as a raceless world, so we must fight to make the world as raceless as possible

RLK2014 wrote:

DanishBoy wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

DUUUH ! Really ? But this picture was a straight reference to that, and this girl wanted to show that Black protesters were in fact peaceful and wanted to create a dialogue with cops who wanted to hear none of it.Also, Black people are the most incarcerated people in the USA while White people doing the most crimes, so even though White cops doesn't always killed Black people, they still treated them pretty badly and may I even say worse than any other group of people.

a lot of it is by blacks have harder time getting jobs so they go to jail for child support and smaller crimes

HonestTea101 wrote:

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

no but it promotes segregation 

So ALM would be the better route to take wouldn't it ?

Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

disagree. It's sad because the "critics" are white people that are trying to deescalate a serious problem in the US. A certain community should never feel unsafe to leave their homes at a risk of being killed because of their race. Now when people pull the BLM card to rob stores and steal shit. That's when I have a problem. And i feel like I've never heard the BLM movements say they don't approve of those actions (even tho they probably have)

DanishBoy wrote:

RLK2014 wrote:

DanishBoy wrote:
HonestTea101 wrote:What are your initial reactions from this picture?

The intention behind it was good, but the purpose was pointless, since it wouldn't stop White cops to kill Black people...sadly !

but it isn't only white cops killing people and it isn't only black people getting killed by cops so...

DUUUH ! Really ? But this picture was a straight reference to that, and this girl wanted to show that Black protesters were in fact peaceful and wanted to create a dialogue with cops who wanted to hear none of it.Also, Black people are the most incarcerated people in the USA while White people doing the most crimes, so even though White cops doesn't always killed Black people, they still treated them pretty badly and may I even say worse than any other group of people.

If you're going to say such things, gotta show the proof of such facts. 

2013
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/...

2015
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/...

The thing is that we lived all of our lives telling ourselves "All lives matter", because we thought that black issues were past centuries stuff, but now we've realized that those issues were not totally solved, and it's time to focus on solving them definitively. That's why "Black Lives Matter" exists. And I don't discard that in the future we might have a "Latinos Lives Matter" or an "Asian Lives Matter", because in our subconscious we've buried all of the discrimination that dominant groups have ingrained in us, and it's time for oppressed communities to demand respect.

RLK2014 wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:Last Question.Critics argue that the BLM movement promotes racism by saying one race’s life matters over the other. Do you agree or disagree and why?

no but it promotes segregation 

So ALM would be the better route to take wouldn't it ?

yes

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