The Challenge XXX: Dirty 30- Christopher Ammon

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Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.

Someone like Nicole Z was no different though between RW and Invasion.

Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.Someone like Nicole Z was no different though between RW and Invasion.

I'm ready to give Will Gill a blank slate if they ever cast him lol

HonestTea101 wrote:

Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.Someone like Nicole Z was no different though between RW and Invasion.

I'm ready to give Will Gill a blank slate if they ever cast him lol

I'm ready to give Squidward a blank slate if they ever cast him

Graphik wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.Someone like Nicole Z was no different though between RW and Invasion.

I'm ready to give Will Gill a blank slate if they ever cast him lol

I'm ready to give Squidward a blank slate if they ever cast him

We know lmaoooo you just didn't want to admit it!

HonestTea101 wrote:

Graphik wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.Someone like Nicole Z was no different though between RW and Invasion.

I'm ready to give Will Gill a blank slate if they ever cast him lol

I'm ready to give Squidward a blank slate if they ever cast him

We know lmaoooo you just didn't want to admit it!

At least he's out of your avi now Smile Still see some questionable ones tho... 

Call me a fan! This is why people deserve a blank slate when appearing on their first challenge, it's possible they've grown and are different. Ammo is so much different and for the better.

Ammo is awesome <3.

Ammo has been awesome so far. He must have changed a lot from the real world because I don't find him annoying or unlikeable like some thought prior to dirty 30.

richjoe92 wrote:

Semisweet wrote:

richjoe92 wrote:Sex - either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.Gender - the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones). There is a difference. Side note: Ammo has already proven useful to create dialogue by just appearing. Kudos for him.

Deeper is not wrong, Kolle is not wrong, Audrey is not wrong... we all have opinionsHowever, for purposes of the challenge since the males compete against males and females compete against females - there must be a distinction otherwise a female identifying Corey, Leroy & Bananas would demolish the little females. Even though Ammo is a stick chick, he still has more testosterone, upper body strength and things that are inherently male.Laurel, Preston... those are exceptions not the rule....  Don't kill the messenger.

Just because we all hae opinion doesnt mean one or more can't be wrong.  This is a general statement, not about this discussion. And to be honest, saying we all have opinions is moot. We all know we have opinions. I'm glad this is a point of discussion coming from The Challenge, something that Real World is lacking. Katelynn competed and was identified as Female in her two challenge appearances. Now my question is, is Ammo identify as a trans female or simply non-binary? 

Katelynn was a fully transitioned female on hormones and such. Ammo is a male who I think identifies as non-binary. I think that they should stick to regulations that sports have in place. But yea, I do think it raises questions. Obviously Katelynn wasn't a big deal because she wasn't really a threat. But like I mentioned before, imagine if we got a guy like CT who identified as a female, you really think that would be fair?

I found this and thought about what you said. 

https://www.instagram.com/tboy61915/  this is transgender male. Which side he should perform?

And https://www.instagram.com/janaemariekroc/, transgender woman, which side she should perform?

Well Katelynn was completely post op so she was a full fledged woman. I'm Trans myself and even I agree that it was a better decision for Ammo to perform on the boy side. Not only is it inspirational for gay men, who lets be honest, usually get the weak label no matter what on the Challenge, but I would hate for any wins Ammo would have had been reduced to "oh well, he is still physically male."

And I can say from personal experience, when get on hormones, your body changes dramatically. You no longer build muscle like a man. Where as Ammo, not on hormones,would still hold muscle like a cisgender men usually do.

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