The Challenge: Our Hopes For The Future (Spoilers)

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bluehatchet2 wrote:

Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

but seriously, who are these vets that you guys really want to see who have straight up said they want to come back and do it? I've only seen Beth say she would come back so correct me if I'm wrong  

Who do you guys want to see who realistically has a chance of returning to the show? 

It's clear that Hollywood & DC, as much we want to see certain people from these casts on the show, will never be seen again. Maybe Ty & Emily will return but we'll see.

Sydney - Kellyanne, Cohutta, Isaac

Cancun - CJ, Jonna

Vegas 2 - Dustin, Cooke (she just has to accept again which I feel like she's getting close to doing)

San Diego 2 - uhhh Priscilla I guess? Zach may or may not be back (leaning towards the latter)

St. Thomas - LaToya (she just has to stop being petty), Marie (needs to make up her mind) & Robb

Portland - NIA, NIA, NIA. Marlon, Averey, Jessica. Joi has probably missed her chance but you never know.

Ex-Plosion - Cory, Brian, Ashley, Jamie, Jay

Skeletons - All of them

Go Big - All of them

I agree with everything Debut, HB, Lurker, and Graphik are saying. But at this point, I can only blame society for what "reality tv" has come too.

I started as a casual fan from Rivals to Exes2. From then, I watched past seasons all the way to Extreme Challenge. There was a HUGE difference. It is REAL. Road Rules, RW, and The Challenge was REAL. They didn't act. We now live where reality tv is a drunk, trashy, pointless fight where there is no purpose but it brings "entertainment." You have cast members who will start a little fight to get a Rival or pimp themselves out because they need an Ex. They are now actors, it's not genuine like it use to be.

I will give Rivals 3 and shot and will support a TV show I once loved. But I'm going to admit, I was sad to see what it came too. I don't know how someone thinks the Rivals 3 was "LIT." We all know who wins!! Raskii, who doesn't read spoilers, knows who won just because of the cast. It's "lit" because there was some trashy and drunk fights and hook ups. I watch the show for competition, not to see who is fucking or fighting. Call me an old soul, but that's just my opinion. At his point, it's not even who they cast. It's what they give us in my opinion.

WittyWrath wrote:

Who do you guys want to see who realistically has a chance of returning to the show? 

It's clear that Hollywood & DC, as much we want to see certain people from these casts on the show, will never be seen again. Maybe Ty & Emily will return but we'll see.Sydney - Kellyanne, Cohutta, IsaacCancun - CJ, JonnaVegas 2 - Dustin, Cooke (she just has to accept again which I feel like she's getting close to doing)San Diego 2 - uhhh Priscilla I guess? Zach may or may not be back (leaning towards the latter)St. Thomas - LaToya (she just has to stop being petty), Marie (needs to make up her mind) & RobbPortland - NIA, NIA, NIA. Marlon, Averey, Jessica. Joi has probably missed her chance but you never know.Ex-Plosion - Cory, Brian, Ashley, Jamie, JaySkeletons - All of themGo Big - All of them

Most of the people you named have been on the past couple of seasons or they were asked and declined.... I think the person was referring to cast members we haven't seen in a while because they haven't been asked...

but seriously, who are these vets that you guys really want to see who have straight up said they want to come back and do it? I've only seen Beth say she would come back so correct me if I'm wrong  

I think people have said that even though she has said that she usually always declines.

We're about to hear "Trey, Nate and Priscilla deserve another shot" "Sahar needs to make her debut" "Kefla said he wants to do one bring him" "Where's Noor been he was only only good person from Fresh Meat"  "Irrelevant #4 said she'll do one she deserves a chance"

The only logical name that may come up is Darrell even though I don't care much for him I can see the appeal. 

Who do you guys want to see who realistically has a chance of returning to the show? 

Dustin.
Jay(I feel like the door is still open for him to return)
Marie.
Nia(I feel like she will return at some point. Don't think she's banned)
Robb
Nicole(Skeletons)
Sylvia
Violetta
Brian
Jason(Skeletons)
Dione
Kailah
CeeJai
Jenna
Latoya
Marlon
Dean

..And there's no reason why any of these people(barring they decline) shouldn't return/make their debut at some point.

but seriously, who are these vets that you guys really want to see who have straight up said they want to come back and do it? I've only seen Beth say she would come back so correct me if I'm wrong  

Well for me these are really the only one I want to return at some point.

Mark(Only if Backpack wasn't on)

Darrell

Ruthie

Abram(He was on Bloodlines but after that season there's no reason why they shouldn't cast him again)

Susie(Ha! Just Kidding. I don't want to see her ass)

Pretty small list but all the people I listed and was serious about is willing to come back.

I agree with everything Debut, HB, Lurker, and Graphik are saying. But at this point, I can only blame society for what "reality tv" has come too.I started as a casual fan from Rivals to Exes2. From then, I watched past seasons all the way to Extreme Challenge. There was a HUGE difference. It is REAL. Road Rules, RW, and The Challenge was REAL. They didn't act. We now live where reality tv is a drunk, trashy, pointless fight where there is no purpose but it brings "entertainment." You have cast members who will start a little fight to get a Rival or pimp themselves out because they need an Ex. They are now actors, it's not genuine like it use to be.I will give Rivals 3 and shot and will support a TV show I once loved. But I'm going to admit, I was sad to see what it came too. I don't know how someone thinks the Rivals 3 was "LIT." We all know who wins!! Raskii, who doesn't read spoilers, knows who won just because of the cast. It's "lit" because there was some trashy and drunk fights and hook ups. I watch the show for competition, not to see who is fucking or fighting. Call me an old soul, but that's just my opinion. At his point, it's not even who they cast. It's what they give us in my opinion.

This is all true & it's sad but what can you do....

And there is nothing wrong with that. You just don't accept any ole' bullshit they throw out & be like "well at least the show's still on the air". 

The bigger issue is MTV as a whole.. 

KChallenge10 wrote:

bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

You haven't even watched Rivals 3 yet. How do you know it won't be "akin to seasons 2 or exes 2"?

Why does Kefla keep coming up out of nowhere lmao has anybody said anything about him in the past year? While it would be dope to have such a random person come back, that ship has sailed. Maybe if he did more Challenges during the Golden & JEK Eras it would be possible but nah

Who do you guys want to see who realistically has a chance of returning to the show? 

Cooke

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy.

TYGUY14 wrote:

I agree with everything Debut, HB, Lurker, and Graphik are saying. But at this point, I can only blame society for what "reality tv" has come too.I started as a casual fan from Rivals to Exes2. From then, I watched past seasons all the way to Extreme Challenge. There was a HUGE difference. It is REAL. Road Rules, RW, and The Challenge was REAL. They didn't act. We now live where reality tv is a drunk, trashy, pointless fight where there is no purpose but it brings "entertainment." You have cast members who will start a little fight to get a Rival or pimp themselves out because they need an Ex. They are now actors, it's not genuine like it use to be.I will give Rivals 3 and shot and will support a TV show I once loved. But I'm going to admit, I was sad to see what it came too. I don't know how someone thinks the Rivals 3 was "LIT." We all know who wins!! Raskii, who doesn't read spoilers, knows who won just because of the cast. It's "lit" because there was some trashy and drunk fights and hook ups. I watch the show for competition, not to see who is fucking or fighting. Call me an old soul, but that's just my opinion. At his point, it's not even who they cast. It's what they give us in my opinion.

This is all true & it's sad but what can you do....And there is nothing wrong with that. You just don't accept any ole' bullshit they throw out & be like "well at least the show's still on the air". The bigger issue is MTV as a whole.. 

Yeah..I've been a loyal ass fan in the past and dealt with a lot of necessary and unecessary changes with this show. I(and many other longtime fans and hell even people who have seen older seasons who know how good this show used to be) have earned the right to say "fuck this season"

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

I am talking in general not just one viewer.

What pleased you doesnt pleased everybody else , so those people would complaint just like you are complaining now about their casting decision.

For example you were happy with seasons 2 cast, while others on this site complaint about that cast no stop.

Who I want to return that hasn't been back for two+ challenges 

Sydney- Ashli, Isaac, Dunbar

Hollywood- Greg, Brianna, Will

Brooklyn- Devyn, Chet, Ryan (plzzzzzz)

Cancun- CJ, Jonna, Ayiiia

D.C.- would love Ashley, Ty, Mike, Erika but unrealistic

New Orleans- McKenzie, Jemmye, Ashlee, Sahar

Vegas 2- Adam, Dustin, Mike, Heather, Cooke

San Diego 2- Zach and Frank 

St. Thomas- Marie, LaToya, Trey, Robb, Swift

Portland- Marlon, Jordan, Nia, Anastasia 

Explosion- Brian, Jenny, Jamie, Jay

Skeletons and Go Big- all of em

ChallengeFan00 wrote:

but seriously, who are these vets that you guys really want to see who have straight up said they want to come back and do it? I've only seen Beth say she would come back so correct me if I'm wrong  

Well for me these are really the only one I want to return at some point.Mark(Only if Backpack wasn't on)DarrellRuthieAbram(He was on Bloodlines but after that season there's no reason why they shouldn't cast him again)Susie(Ha! Just Kidding. I don't want to see her ass)Pretty small list but all the people I listed and was serious about is willing to come back.

darrell I wouldn't mind seeing back. was his last appearance ruins? because that would suck to have your last appearance be a dq. Abram was on exes 1 which isn't that old so I still consider him as someone who had recently appeared before bloodlines. but he should definitely come back but I don't see him doing exes 3. mark and Susie were good but I don't need to see them again.

I agree with everything Debut, HB, Lurker, and Graphik are saying. But at this point, I can only blame society for what "reality tv" has come too.I started as a casual fan from Rivals to Exes2. From then, I watched past seasons all the way to Extreme Challenge. There was a HUGE difference. It is REAL. Road Rules, RW, and The Challenge was REAL. They didn't act. We now live where reality tv is a drunk, trashy, pointless fight where there is no purpose but it brings "entertainment." You have cast members who will start a little fight to get a Rival or pimp themselves out because they need an Ex. They are now actors, it's not genuine like it use to be.I will give Rivals 3 and shot and will support a TV show I once loved. But I'm going to admit, I was sad to see what it came too. I don't know how someone thinks the Rivals 3 was "LIT." We all know who wins!! Raskii, who doesn't read spoilers, knows who won just because of the cast. It's "lit" because there was some trashy and drunk fights and hook ups. I watch the show for competition, not to see who is fucking or fighting. Call me an old soul, but that's just my opinion. At his point, it's not even who they cast. It's what they give us in my opinion.

Ty - this!! The show has degraded and  its appeal now, in this sad form of its former self appeals to basest viewer...lacking in depth, competivness or class. Sorry kids go back and watch the older seasons...it was all better... the way the challengers presented themselves, the level of commitment to complete even after you had already lost, suck up your personal crap and win for the team... unless you were sinking the team and throw it in their faces not pretend you weren't doing that... Not to mention the level of difficulty (or at least the intensity) in the challenges themselves

Challengefan - not to be shady, you know I love you but . . .  Challenge started before you were born sooo most of this took place well before your bedtime baby! It was a whole different thing! xoxo

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

Didn't you complain a whole lot about Exes 2 because of AYTO being brought on? And probably about Bananas too. You only became a "happy ass camper" after it aired becaused it turned out to be a really good season. How do you know the same won't happen with Rivals 3 AFTER it airs?

Debut Album wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

You haven't even watched Rivals 3 yet. How do you know it won't be "akin to seasons 2 or exes 2"?

Look at the cast man. Too many fucking Non-Castmembers, The Overused Regulars and then Backpack/Sarah win? Fuck that shit. I'm not trying to see that Piece of shit walk to his 6th win while a bunch of assholes from another show put on pointless, pathetic fights just to impress. I mean sure there's Tony/Cory/Ashley but of those 3 I've already seen 2 of them already and the other one alone is not enough to get me to watch this.

The general consensus I think with the Old-School regulars & familiar faces is if they want to come back, let them come back & let them come back whenever they please. It doesn't matter their age, how many want to come back, do the casual viewers know them & all this other BS.

Nobody is asking for an all-Old School challenge or really even Old School v.s. New School at this point (they've missed the countless opportunties they had to do this). I really do not see the harm in having 1-5 on a season of 26-32 people.

Debut Album wrote:

ChallengeFan00 wrote:but seriously, who are these vets that you guys really want to see who have straight up said they want to come back and do it? I've only seen Beth say she would come back so correct me if I'm wrong  

Well for me these are really the only one I want to return at some point.Mark(Only if Backpack wasn't on)DarrellRuthieAbram(He was on Bloodlines but after that season there's no reason why they shouldn't cast him again)Susie(Ha! Just Kidding. I don't want to see her ass)Pretty small list but all the people I listed and was serious about is willing to come back.

darrell I wouldn't mind seeing back. was his last appearance ruins? because that would suck to have your last appearance be a dq. Abram was on exes 1 which isn't that old so I still consider him as someone who had recently appeared before bloodlines. but he should definitely come back but I don't see him doing exes 3. mark and Susie were good but I don't need to see them again.

Actually his last appearance was Fresh Meat 2. He went out first on that one so I do think he needs to return to basically redeem himself from that season and The Ruins as well.

The general consensus I think with the Old-School regulars & familiar faces is if they want to come back, let them come back & let them come back whenever they please. It doesn't matter their age, how many want to come back, do the casual viewers know them & all this other BS.Nobody is asking for an all-Old School challenge or really even Old School v.s. New School at this point (they've missed the countless opportunties they had to do this). I really do not see the harm in having 1-5 on a season of 26-32 people.

They do though. Banana, Wes, KellyAnne, and Sarah are considered old school right now. 

The general consensus I think with the Old-School regulars & familiar faces is if they want to come back, let them come back & let them come back whenever they please. It doesn't matter their age, how many want to come back, do the casual viewers know them & all this other BS.Nobody is asking for an all-Old School challenge or really even Old School v.s. New School at this point (they've missed the countless opportunties they had to do this). I really do not see the harm in having 1-5 on a season of 26-32 people.

But who besides Darrell/Abe is worthy/willing to come back from the Old School? Who could actually bring something?

Debut Album wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
KChallenge10 wrote:
bluehatchet2 wrote:Your negativity and pessimism is exhausting. This is directed to a bunch of people btw

No one here will ever be pleased.

Oh that is SO not true.

No, its 100% true people always will find a way to complaint

Well that's true but I was mainly talking about myself regarding this show...I can be pleased..But this Rivals 3 bullshit is NOT going to tickle my fancy. Give me a Challenge akin to Seasons 2 or Exes 2 and I'll be a happy ass camper.

Didn't you complain a whole lot about Exes 2 because of AYTO being brought on? And probably about Bananas too. You only became a "happy ass camper" after it aired becaused it turned out to be a really good season. How do you know the same won't happen with Rivals 3 AFTER it airs?

I did complain at first but then I read the spoilers...AYTO was done away with fairly quickly and Backpack didn't even win so I was fine with the season before it even aired..I'll admit it was even better when it aired.

Graphik wrote:

The general consensus I think with the Old-School regulars & familiar faces is if they want to come back, let them come back & let them come back whenever they please. It doesn't matter their age, how many want to come back, do the casual viewers know them & all this other BS.Nobody is asking for an all-Old School challenge or really even Old School v.s. New School at this point (they've missed the countless opportunties they had to do this). I really do not see the harm in having 1-5 on a season of 26-32 people.

They do though. Banana, Wes, KellyAnne, and Sarah are considered old school right now. 

We see them almost every damn season though.(aside from Kellyanne) They are regulars.

At this point I'm okay with the challenge being mostly Portland-GBGH, AYTO, and Bloodlines cast members. Then throw in a few Cancun-St. Thomas and Fresh Meat 2 people granted, like I said earlier it will be only the regulars from this time that will be cast so Leroy, Nany, Dustin, Zach, Jemmye, Cara Maria, Laurel, Jonna, and Camila and a few of those people may decline. If someone like Frank accepted again they have him back. Same with possibly LaToya and Marie if they are good for the theme like Marie was for Bloodlines. Other than that we won't reall get anymore from that time period. 

Then anything before Cancun will be Sarah, Cohutta, KellyAnne, maybe Isaac, Bananas, Wes, Aneesa, CT if he's still willing and then maybe Abram and other Road Rulers? but I think they only go for those if they really fit the theme or are beneficial to the show like Abram was on Bloodlines. But had Cara never done what she done he would have not been bought back. Devyn is another who they want back if she accepted and fit the theme. Jen, Paula, etc. but they are longggggg gone and over it! 

Women like Coral, Veronica, and Beth would only come back if it's beneficial for them and they have the numbers to survive and have a chance. If not, count them out and they will never have the numbers because they will be outnumbered by the newbies and then they act crazy that like for some that may not be appealing. If it wasn't for KellyAnne being able to bring Anthony with her I don't think she would have ever got back into the mix because she would have been outnumbered and sent home much sooner. But with that she was on an even playing field and now she is back to doing challenges and has kinda found a place and some allies. 

I don't think the results of a season have anything to do with whether the season is good or not. Jordan and Sarah winning was tragic but the season was still decent.

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