The Challenge: Invasion- Ratings

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I liked it lol the cast isnt very good but I like the concept

I dvr'd Stranded.  Was it really bad & should I not waste my time?

Delete it. It's not worth watching.

Dead at MTV wasting a million dollars on this 

I dvr'd Stranded.  Was it really bad & should I not waste my time?

its just boring I mean they do nothing get money need to decide if they want to buy anything to help themselves that's all. It's like survivor without voting people out or competitions. My mom (lover of all reality shows) even said it was the dumbest thing she has seen

No wasting my time watching a minute of it

I've never been happy that a show tanked and this just made my eyes water. Biggrin

Yasss the challenge serving 800K realness. 

Champions bringing in the ratings next week 

I don't think ratings will be higher for the next episodes. It will stay at 700-800k range which is still pretty good for MTV standards, but they definitely will not hit the million of viewers (except for the finale maybe.

One thing I hate about this season, it's the fact all promotional clips are only focused on The Champs. I mean, they could at least put some deleted scenes of the life in the shelter or some sneak peeks on their Youtube channel, but no, they rather show us Zach, Darrell, Laurel playing Jenga or stupid stuff like that.

That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

 

STRANDed was 460 worse then the RW

no that's actually better. unless you're just talking about the premiere.

most people know though that the champs ween't gonna be on this episode until the end. so i would still say the underdogs brought it.

That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

That's also why people get so hung up on the champs/vets and cry when they're not there too. I don't get why they keep depending on those vets.

 

RLK2014 wrote:

STRANDed was 460 worse then the RW

no that's actually better. unless you're just talking about the premiere.

Premiere

mickeyflo24 wrote:

 

RLK2014 wrote:STRANDed was 460 worse then the RW

no that's actually better. unless you're just talking about the premiere.

Premiere

oh okay Biggrin

DanishBoy wrote:

That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

That's also why people get so hung up on the champs/vets and cry when they're not there too. I don't get why they keep depending on those vets.

Why wouldn't they? I tune in to watch the vets and not a bunch of noobies competing. I don't mind new blood, but I do expect a number of oldies because they're the people I'm most familiar with. Let's not pretend name recognition and familiarity doesn't draw viewers. My sibling (early 20s) has never watched a full season in her life nor has she ever watched RW, but she has caught a couple of episodes when I have watched and the only person she knows and remembers is CT. Even Tony was in a bit of awe of CT in that confessional and Bananas was in that crowd and he's won many more than CT.  I was listening to ESPN sports radio last year and somehow the challenge came up in passing and they mentioned Johnny Bananas because he has become associated with that franchise. The producers know as well as anyone that name draw brings viewers and I'm perfectly fine with it, even if it means having to put up with Johnny's repulsive personality every season.

Debut Album wrote:

DanishBoy wrote:That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

That's also why people get so hung up on the champs/vets and cry when they're not there too. I don't get why they keep depending on those vets.

Why wouldn't they? I tune in to watch the vets and not a bunch of noobies competing. I don't mind new blood, but I do expect a number of oldies because they're the people I'm most familiar with. Let's not pretend name recognition and familiarity doesn't draw viewers. My sibling (early 20s) has never watched a full season in her life nor has she ever watched RW, but she has caught a couple of episodes when I have watched and the only person she knows and remembers is CT. Even Tony was in a bit of awe of CT in that confessional and Bananas was in that crowd and he's won many more than CT.  I was listening to ESPN sports radio last year and somehow the challenge came up in passing and they mentioned Johnny Bananas because he has become associated with that franchise. The producers know as well as anyone that name draw brings viewers and I'm perfectly fine with it, even if it means having to put up with Johnny's repulsive personality every season.

That's all fine and dandy. Except that those vets are not gonna be on the show forever. Shit. I wouldn't be surprised if this is CT's Last season given that he now has a child that he needs to take care of and he's now apparently doing movies now(though he'll probably just come back from time to time). Backpack's time is gonna be up eventually and the same will go for all the others. At some point you have to establish the new kids in order to keep this show alive and I feel like in terms of promotion of this show they didn't do that. it's just been all about the champs and the underdogs were pushed to the side. That's not good and it doesn't bode well for the future. The audience need to get familiar with newer people so that when the vets move on the show won't tank. They've been doing that in terms of the actual show now so it's good that they're starting to understand that but it's clear that the fans don't.

Heelin' wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

DanishBoy wrote:That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

That's also why people get so hung up on the champs/vets and cry when they're not there too. I don't get why they keep depending on those vets.

Why wouldn't they? I tune in to watch the vets and not a bunch of noobies competing. I don't mind new blood, but I do expect a number of oldies because they're the people I'm most familiar with. Let's not pretend name recognition and familiarity doesn't draw viewers. My sibling (early 20s) has never watched a full season in her life nor has she ever watched RW, but she has caught a couple of episodes when I have watched and the only person she knows and remembers is CT. Even Tony was in a bit of awe of CT in that confessional and Bananas was in that crowd and he's won many more than CT.  I was listening to ESPN sports radio last year and somehow the challenge came up in passing and they mentioned Johnny Bananas because he has become associated with that franchise. The producers know as well as anyone that name draw brings viewers and I'm perfectly fine with it, even if it means having to put up with Johnny's repulsive personality every season.

That's all fine and dandy. Except that those vets are not gonna be on the show forever. Shit. I wouldn't be surprised if this is CT's Last season given that he now has a child that he needs to take care of and he's now apparently doing movies now(though he'll probably just come back from time to time). Backpack's time is gonna be up eventually and the same will go for all the others. At some point you have to establish the new kids in order to keep this show alive and I feel like in terms of promotion of this show they didn't do that. it's just been all about the champs and the underdogs were pushed to the side. That's not good and it doesn't bode well for the future. The audience need to get familiar with newer people so that when the vets move on the show won't tank. They've been doing that in terms of the actual show now so it's good that they're starting to understand that but it's clear that the fans don't.

Fair enough, I thought you had a problem with having the vets on the show in general, but you just want more promotional time for the newbies. I think they've done a fairly decent job giving time to the champs and the newbies, so I can't say much about it. The clips with the champs was a smart way to amp up anticipation for their arrival and it took up so little TV time that it didn't bother me. I'm not saying that they'll be there forever, but as long as vets like Johnny and CT are willing, I can understand why the producers would want to keep bringing them on. I haven't watched RW in many years now, so once the vets that I've been watching have phased out, I'd probably stop watching, too - that is if the show is still running. I'm not opposed to fresh blood, but it takes adjustment and a mingling of old and new to really start phasing in new players as well as a certain amount of charisma from new players to make them work.

Debut Album wrote:

Heelin' wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
DanishBoy wrote:That's why people still think Amanda is annoying, because MTV don't show clips to make casuals get interested in her and the other Underdogs. MTV treated them as if they were just fillers or something. 

That's also why people get so hung up on the champs/vets and cry when they're not there too. I don't get why they keep depending on those vets.

Why wouldn't they? I tune in to watch the vets and not a bunch of noobies competing. I don't mind new blood, but I do expect a number of oldies because they're the people I'm most familiar with. Let's not pretend name recognition and familiarity doesn't draw viewers. My sibling (early 20s) has never watched a full season in her life nor has she ever watched RW, but she has caught a couple of episodes when I have watched and the only person she knows and remembers is CT. Even Tony was in a bit of awe of CT in that confessional and Bananas was in that crowd and he's won many more than CT.  I was listening to ESPN sports radio last year and somehow the challenge came up in passing and they mentioned Johnny Bananas because he has become associated with that franchise. The producers know as well as anyone that name draw brings viewers and I'm perfectly fine with it, even if it means having to put up with Johnny's repulsive personality every season.

That's all fine and dandy. Except that those vets are not gonna be on the show forever. Shit. I wouldn't be surprised if this is CT's Last season given that he now has a child that he needs to take care of and he's now apparently doing movies now(though he'll probably just come back from time to time). Backpack's time is gonna be up eventually and the same will go for all the others. At some point you have to establish the new kids in order to keep this show alive and I feel like in terms of promotion of this show they didn't do that. it's just been all about the champs and the underdogs were pushed to the side. That's not good and it doesn't bode well for the future. The audience need to get familiar with newer people so that when the vets move on the show won't tank. They've been doing that in terms of the actual show now so it's good that they're starting to understand that but it's clear that the fans don't.

Fair enough, I thought you had a problem with having the vets on the show in general, but you just want more promotional time for the newbies. I think they've done a fairly decent job giving time to the champs and the newbies, so I can't say much about it. The clips with the champs was a smart way to amp up anticipation for their arrival and it took up so little TV time that it didn't bother me. I'm not saying that they'll be there forever, but as long as vets like Johnny and CT are willing, I can understand why the producers would want to keep bringing them on. I haven't watched RW in many years now, so once the vets that I've been watching have phased out, I'd probably stop watching, too - that is if the show is still running. I'm not opposed to fresh blood, but it takes adjustment and a mingling of old and new to really start phasing in new players as well as a certain amount of charisma from new players to make them work.

Well to be honest I am tired of the vets and would rather them be off the show forever but I do see thier benefit though. I'm just tired of them at this point because it's always the same shit with them. Nothing is ever new when it comes to the vets and when you have to put up with their Bullshit every sesason...yeah. I just want a new era with a new dynamic.

But as far as the bolded...yeah. Not so much IMO. I wouldn't say any of the vets are charasmatic at all so that's not really needed but that's just my opinion.

LurkerNoMore wrote:

When Beth, Veronica, Rachel and Tina's return brings them numbers back up to 2 million >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And Coral.

The Champs are also so predictable now, that doesn't even make good TV anymore...

To think people enjoy Zach is finally arrived...only to see him flirting with Jenna, but calling in the same time newbies uncharismetic, it's rather funny to stay polite !

The Champs are also so predictable now, that doesn't even make good TV anymore...To think people enjoy Zach is finally arrived...only to see him flirting with Jenna, but calling in the same time newbies uncharismetic, it's rather funny to stay polite !

Right. Like what is so charasmatic about Zach? Backpack? CM? Laurel? Not to mention they all do the same shit every season. 

I'm telling you. People are used to the vets/champs being there every season and them taking up so much screentime that they think that they're somehow interesting, dynamic characters when they aren't.

MTV went out of their way to state "The Champions arrive" on every commercial for the last episode.  We all know who creates ratings regardless of what we may want the cast to look like.  The newies can't carry the show--see RW ratings

MTV went out of their way to state "The Champions arrive" on every commercial for the last episode.  We all know who creates ratings regardless of what we may want the cast to look like.  The newies can't carry the show--see RW ratings

Yes they can. Did you not see the ratings for this challenge? And don't say "because of champ Cams' because like I said...people still watched and they could've easily found out which episodes the champs arrived and not watched until then. You just refuse to give them credit. That's all this is.

Okay but the rise this week was due to the promoting MTV did all week about the champs coming in

Okay but the rise this week was due to the promoting MTV did all week about the champs coming in

Okay? I'm not saying the champs don't bring in ratings. What I'm saying is is that the new kids can carry the show. The 3 episodes that didn't feature the champs did decent in terms of ratings. If they're doing decent now think of how well they do once MTV/BMP starts getting behind them and making them the new stars. 

These new kids are not going to tank the show. This is not a Seasons 2 situation.

Diamonds are Forever wrote:

Okay but the rise this week was due to the promoting MTV did all week about the champs coming in

Okay? I'm not saying the champs don't bring in ratings. What I'm saying is is that the new kids can carry the show. The 3 episodes that didn't feature the champs did decent in terms of ratings. If they're doing decent now think of how well they do once MTV/BMP starts getting behind them and making them the new stars. These new kids are not going to tank the show. This is not a Seasons 2 situation.

It isn't a Seasons 2 situation but you're lying to yourself if you can't admit the veterans/champions bring better ratings.  Balance is needed.  It creates a larger fan base.  I'm all for some of these new kids proving themselves against the veterans/champions.  That's how they'll become the regulars that you grow to hate  Smile

Debut Album wrote:

Diamonds are Forever wrote:Okay but the rise this week was due to the promoting MTV did all week about the champs coming in

Okay? I'm not saying the champs don't bring in ratings. What I'm saying is is that the new kids can carry the show. The 3 episodes that didn't feature the champs did decent in terms of ratings. If they're doing decent now think of how well they do once MTV/BMP starts getting behind them and making them the new stars. These new kids are not going to tank the show. This is not a Seasons 2 situation.

It isn't a Seasons 2 situation but you're lying to yourself if you can't admit the veterans/champions bring better ratings.  Balance is needed.  It creates a larger fan base.  I'm all for some of these new kids proving themselves against the veterans/champions.  That's how they'll become the regulars that you grow to hate  Smile

OMG that not what the point was ! The newbies could carry the show if MTV actually SUPPORTED them instead of making all of their promos on The Champs solely. The thing is, MTV acted as if The Underdogs were just "fillers" in waiting The Champs to come which is pretty stupid, because they will be, whether you like or not, the future of the show. Nobody ever said vets don't/won't bring ratings... and nobody hate The Champs either.

Also, people should be really stupid to believe The Champs would arrive on 1st, 2nd and even 3rd episode...while it was pretty clear in the trailer, they would arrived later in the game. (The different jerseys colours was itself an indication)...

I wonder why ratings in 50+ demographic are that bad, when 90% of comments on Facebook are from horny over CT grandmas

kvm1977 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

Diamonds are Forever wrote:Okay but the rise this week was due to the promoting MTV did all week about the champs coming in

Okay? I'm not saying the champs don't bring in ratings. What I'm saying is is that the new kids can carry the show. The 3 episodes that didn't feature the champs did decent in terms of ratings. If they're doing decent now think of how well they do once MTV/BMP starts getting behind them and making them the new stars. These new kids are not going to tank the show. This is not a Seasons 2 situation.

It isn't a Seasons 2 situation but you're lying to yourself if you can't admit the veterans/champions bring better ratings.  Balance is needed.  It creates a larger fan base.  I'm all for some of these new kids proving themselves against the veterans/champions.  That's how they'll become the regulars that you grow to hate  Smile

OMG that not what the point was ! The newbies could carry the show if MTV actually SUPPORTED them instead of making all of their promos on The Champs solely. The thing is, MTV acted as if The Underdogs were just "fillers" in waiting The Champs to come which is pretty stupid, because they will be, whether you like or not, the future of the show. Nobody ever said vets don't/won't bring ratings... and nobody hate The Champs either.Also, people should be really stupid to believe The Champs would arrive on 1st, 2nd and even 3rd episode...while it was pretty clear in the trailer, they would arrived later in the game. (The different jerseys colours was itself an indication)...

Thank You. Finally someone gets it. 

MTV starts getting behind the newbies then the camps/vets won't be needed. This isn't about these new kids "Proving themselves" it's about them being groomed to take over the show and for this season in terms of promotion it seems that MTV failed to do that. 

I am seeing a lot of love for Kailah, Tony, Cory, Jenna and Ashley M

I wonder why ratings in 50+ demographic are that bad, when 90% of comments on Facebook are from horny over CT grandmas

LMFAO! Ethel, Loretta, Nancy, and Penelope finna get them some back breaking, hip replacing D*** up in here. They probably forget the show is on..

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