The Challenge: What Ifs

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[QUOTE=kvm1977;399625]The question is...who replaced them?[/QUOTE] Don't know about puck, I think it was either dan or karamao. Coral and melissa were replaced by Tina and Rachel I believe.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;399579]What if Abe didn't ask to be sent home on the Island? What if Ev didn't throw the Ruins elimination? What if Adam never punched Ty? What if Darrell had picked Laurel as his FM2 partner? What if the original Vegas 2 team of Leroy, Cooke, Dustin, and Nany had made it on Seasons 2? What if Easy hadn't quit Seasons 2? So many what ifs actually....[/QUOTE] 1. This is probably the biggest "What if" in challenge history, that I can think of. I don't even know what would have changed. A lot! Thats all I can say. 2. If Adam never punched Ty, then Leroy & Adam would have been in the finals anyway. The game would have played out the same way with JEK targeting CT, thus meaning Leroy & Adam would have skated to the end because in the Bombs Away, Leroy would still have been climbing the rope. 3. Another pretty good "What if" personally, I think Darrell & Laurel would have eliminated Jillian & Pete and probably would have been a team that didn't belong to either alliance and would have teamed up with Landon & Carley, with both of them getting to the end, and Darrell would have won his 5th challenge. 4. I think if the Vegas team on Seasons was Leroy, Dustin, Nany, and Cooke, then they would have all made the final. So instead of Robb & Marie eliminating Nany & Alton, Robb & Marie would have been eliminated by Leroy & Nany. So the final teams would have been San Diego (Frank, Zach, Sam, and Ashley), Las Vegas (Leroy, Dustin, Cooke, and Nany) and Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet). And I personally think Vegas would have defeated San Diego. So Leroy, Dustin, Cooke, and Nany would have been champions by now. 5. Had Eric not quit on Seasons, they still would have lost to Devyn & J.D. anyway. Really no different.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;399773]I got one. What if the Fresh Meat never came in and Ruined the challenges? The challenges would've been much more enjoyable and entertaining.[/QUOTE] Disagree 100%.
This is biggest "What if" that I can think of that would have changed The Ruins in a huge way. What if CT and Adam never got into a fight? Who would have made the final then? I mean that guys cast was stacked! Only 3 guys out of Mark, Evan, Landon, Brad, and CT getting to the end. I don't think Evan would have won The Duel 2 if CT didn't get DQ'd on The Duel 2. Same with if Landon never got DQ'd against Brad. The final three guys if Landon never got DQ'd would have been Landon (Winning), Evan (2nd), and Mark (3rd). This means that Evan either would have never been on the Ruins since he would not want to be on an opposite team on Johnny, Derrick, and Kenny, or he would have been on the Challengers team.
Here is another good one. What if Abram and Sarah never got sick in the final challenge on Cutthroat?
What if Tyrie didn't quit on The Gauntlet III? Here is how I think it would have played out. Eliminations: 1. Alex 2. Angel 3. Tyler 4. Brooke 5. Johnny 6. Janelle 7. Zach 8. Beth 9. Derek 10. Melinda 11. Ryan 12. Coral (Quit), Casey 13. Nehemiah 14. Katie 15. Danny In Episode 11, Tyrie would have eliminated Ryan in Ankle Breaker and instead of the Veterans saving Frank in the Gauntlet on Episode 13 (when Ryan was eliminated by Nehemiah), the Vets would have saved Tyrie (hoping that he would do the same thing as Eric) and Frank would have eliminated Nehemiah with the final Rookies team being Frank, Jillian, Johanna, Rachel, Tori, and Tyrie. Weird to think that Tyrie could maybe be a challenge champion if he hadn't quit.
What if CT wasn't DQ'd in the Duel elimination against Brad? What if Evan didn't call out CT for the elimination on the Duel? What if Darrell didn't get into a fight with Brad on the Ruins? What if Darrell was on one of the Duel's? What if the DC team (Emily, Ty, Mike and Ashley) was on BOTS? What if the original Vegas team (Cooke, Nany, Leroy and Dustin) was on BOTS? What if Noor appeared on any post FM2 Challenges? What if Evan and Kenny didn't get banned? What if Coral and Evan didn't get injured on FM? What if Laurel had been cast on the Brooklyn season, and was on that team instead of Devyn on BOTS?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;399625]The question is...who replaced them?[/QUOTE] Beth and Rachel for the ladies. Tonya went on a podcast weeks before the challenge and confirmed the girls going as Veronica, Tina, Coral and Melissa. I'm not sure about the men but I am thinking Dan. Apparently Jon was a last minute call in too
[QUOTE=TexasFight88;399843] What if Darrell didn't get into a fight with Brad on the Ruins? He would have been 5 for 5, and currently hold the title for most challenge wins What if Darrell was on one of the Duel's? No guarantee he would have won, but he definitely would have done well What if the DC team (Emily, Ty, Mike and Ashley) was on BOTS? They would have been a tough team to beat, it's a shame to think of what could have been What if the original Vegas team (Cooke, Nany, Leroy and Dustin) was on BOTS? They would have performed better as a team than the hybrid group we saw What if Evan and Kenny didn't get banned? The JEK mob would probably still be torturing everyone else today What if Coral and Evan didn't get injured on FM? They probably would have at least made it to the final [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;399799]1. This is probably the biggest "What if" in challenge history, that I can think of. I don't even know what would have changed. A lot! Thats all I can say. 2. If Adam never punched Ty, then Leroy & Adam would have been in the finals anyway. The game would have played out the same way with JEK targeting CT, thus meaning Leroy & Adam would have skated to the end because in the Bombs Away, Leroy would still have been climbing the rope. 3. Another pretty good "What if" personally, I think Darrell & Laurel would have eliminated Jillian & Pete and probably would have been a team that didn't belong to either alliance and would have teamed up with Landon & Carley, with both of them getting to the end, and Darrell would have won his 5th challenge. 4. I think if the Vegas team on Seasons was Leroy, Dustin, Nany, and Cooke, then they would have all made the final. So instead of Robb & Marie eliminating Nany & Alton, Robb & Marie would have been eliminated by Leroy & Nany. So the final teams would have been San Diego (Frank, Zach, Sam, and Ashley), Las Vegas (Leroy, Dustin, Cooke, and Nany) and Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet). And I personally think Vegas would have defeated San Diego. So Leroy, Dustin, Cooke, and Nany would have been champions by now. 5. Had Eric not quit on Seasons, they still would have lost to Devyn & J.D. anyway. Really no different.[/QUOTE] I agree with all of this, except for the final one. Camila was about one tile away from winning (according to podcasts) and that's when Eric quit.
Doesn't matter, Fresh Meat would have just been thrown in the next elimination anyway.
[QUOTE=EstimatedRoa;399880]Doesn't matter, Fresh Meat would have just been thrown in the next elimination anyway.[/QUOTE] I just remembered SD would win the next mission, but then again they'd probably beat Preston/McKenzie either way.
I think the biggest "what if" goes back to the first Battle of the Season...what if Lori-Back to NY didn't drop up allowing Coral to team with Mike. Would Coral still have had as much control as she did without that early win? Maybe because she's intimidating but one thing can change everything given the impact it has on future seasons.
That's a pretty intriguing one, kvm. What if Emily B kept doing challenges after Battle of the Sexes? Would the other females like Veronica have a political/strategical legacy like she does?
There is a lot of gray area with this one, but what if the living conditions on The Challenge hadn't become so bad over the years. Would the true old schoolers from 2003-2006 still be appearing frequently as opposed to being on the verge of extinction now. A lot of the people who debuted in the old days say things were much looser and relaxed compared to how controlled everything has become. These changes have probably made a lot of the older cast members not wanna come back, but that might not be the case for everyone.
[QUOTE=EstimatedRoa;399880]Doesn't matter, Fresh Meat would have just been thrown in the next elimination anyway.[/QUOTE] But if Big Easy and Camila would have won that elimination, then Brooklyn would consist of only Sarah and Chet on the final, and they probably would have won.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;399888]I think the biggest "what if" goes back to the first Battle of the Season...what if Lori-Back to NY didn't drop up allowing Coral to team with Mike. Would Coral still have had as much control as she did without that early win? Maybe because she's intimidating but one thing can change everything given the impact it has on future seasons.[/QUOTE] That actually is a very good one. [QUOTE=Fresh Meat;399890]That's a pretty intriguing one, kvm. What if Emily B kept doing challenges after Battle of the Sexes? Would the other females like Veronica have a political/strategical legacy like she does?[/QUOTE] I think that Veronica still would've wise up about the game and at some point got Even with Emily. [QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;399901]There is a lot of gray area with this one, but what if the living conditions on The Challenge hadn't become so bad over the years. Would the true old schoolers from 2003-2006 still be appearing frequently as opposed to being on the verge of extinction now. A lot of the people who debuted in the old days say things were much looser and relaxed compared to how controlled everything has become. These changes have probably made a lot of the older cast members not wanna come back, but that might not be the case for everyone.[/QUOTE] Honestly I think that more old-school people(and some newer ones too) would come back and I think we would have more diversity within the challenges. [QUOTE=nevidcm;399902]But if Big Easy and Camila would have won that elimination, then Brooklyn would consist of only Sarah and Chet on the final, and they probably would have won.[/QUOTE] Which would've been a good outcome.
What if Jonna actually appeared on Fresh Meat 2 instead of Evelyn?
[QUOTE=Debut Album;399907]What if Jonna actually appeared on Fresh Meat 2 instead of Evelyn?[/QUOTE] I was about to post this one! I feel like people's partners would've been all different because Evelyn only got stuck with Luke because she was a late replacement.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;399908]I was about to post this one! I feel like people's partners would've been all different because Evelyn only got stuck with Luke because she was a late replacement.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I think that would be a definite.
I think she would have been in the wes alliance with CJ since it was the only person she knew.
I got another one and it's about the inferno 2. Now in that challenge Mike was sent into the Inferno several times. What if in one of those times he goes into the inferno he loses and goes home? would you think the Good Guys still have won? I think they would've considering the Bad ***** were a Trainwreck of a team. (Despite them being stacked) they couldn't really get on the same page with each other.
What if Svetlana and Jenn never backed out of Gauntlet 3 and Melinda and Angel were never on the cast? I feel like we would still be seeing Svet if she would've done it.
[QUOTE=gamer73;399913]What if Svetlana and Jenn never backed out of Gauntlet 3 and Melinda and Angel were never on the cast? I feel like we would still be seeing Svet if she would've done it.[/QUOTE] I could see Jenn making the final and possibly would have won her first challenge. As for Svetlana, I think she would have been sent in the Gauntlet against Jillian and to me its a toss up on who would win.
Hmmm perhaps Jonna COULD have helped Wes with actual strategy, but I definitely think Ev was the overall better partner.
[QUOTE=gamer73;399913]What if Svetlana and Jenn never backed out of Gauntlet 3 and Melinda and Angel were never on the cast? I feel like we would still be seeing Svet if she would've done it.[/QUOTE] Very disapponting that both of them backed out although I liked Angel based on the little bit I saw her. I'm kind of surprised Melinda was the replacement--thought she would have been on the cast regardless. Tough to say how things would have played out...Jillian still would have been the early target and I think she beat Svetlana though that would have been fun to watch. Jenn probably does have a win as I'd wager Rachel doesn't make the final in that scenario. I would have loved to have seen Jenn interact with Frank & Tori on that challenge...lol
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;399915]Hmmm perhaps Jonna COULD have helped Wes with actual strategy, but I definitely think Ev was the overall better partner.[/QUOTE] Evelyn's great with strategy. Jonna and CJ would have likely worked together though with Landon...not sure who they side with if Evelyn isn't there. Without Evelyn Wes really had no power has Danny & Katelyn are useless. I think the more interesting thing is how the draft changes because Jonna likely doesn't pick last
What do you guys think would have happened if Adam R didn't punch ty
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;399920]What do you guys think would have happened if Adam R didn't punch ty[/QUOTE] Leroy would have seen an elimination round
What if they allowed the 3 fastest people to pick teams in Cutthroat and the draft was a snake draft.

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