Creationist Museum: You can't make this stuff up! - Page 2

chopkins · #9 12-02-2007

Originally Posted by Bacchus

Interesting article where Americans are rightfully proven to be idiots.

The best line:
Well.....It used to be renowned for that.

I'd like to see these numbers by geographic region as I am sure the Deep South and Parts of the Midwest are skewing these results heavily to our detriment and global embarrassment.

Yeah, we in the deep south have these museums on every corner! What, you mean this stuff is not true? Golly, I will have to ask my husband/cousin if it is true or not..

Somewhere there is a leftist professor at an Eastern Ivy League school denying the Holocaust. There is ignorance on both sides does not mean whole regions embrace stupid ideology of their extreme sides.

Visit and learn about the South first before you knock it!

**Bacchus** · #10 12-02-2007

Originally Posted by chopkins

Visit and learn about the South first before you knock it!

I lived in Raleigh for 4 years and went to North Carolina State. I know the South quite well and that is why I am confident with my assessment. There is no question more people in the South consider themselves "Evangelicals" then anywhere else in the United States and the numbers from the Harris polls say Evangelicals are less likely to believe in scientific fact and are more likely to believe in witches -for example- then anywhere else.

Very straight forward IMHO.

Do you believe in evolution Chopkins, or are you more of a "T-Rex on the Ark" kind of person?

chopkins · #11 12-02-2007

I believe in evolution but I also belive in God. Why can't God be in evolution? There have been interesting debates between Christopher Hitchens and D'Noush Sousa (spell?) I would refer you to those recents debates to read an intelligent christian viewpoint on creation. Who is the Christian Right? I always hear pundits talk of the Evangicals, who are these extreme people, yet I do not know them. I live in Mississippi and I am sure I do not know any. Most average people I know in the South, the place I have lived all my life, are reasonable people, educated people. Yes we are more conservative than other places but our educational systems are liberal. Schools are teaching evolution in schools here.

**Bacchus** · #12 12-02-2007

Somewhere there is a leftist professor at an Eastern Ivy League school denying the Holocaust.

The thing about this statement is that it would be much more likely to come from a "rightist" professor and they would not build a $27,000,000 museum dedicated to the idea that was paid for by the community and corporate sponsors.

It would be laughed off as ridiculous, where as the intelligent design propaganda has started to displace science in some parts of the country and is being taken as fact!

There is a big difference.

Why can't God be in evolution?

Awesome, we can agree on something! If you follow the creation of the universe back 11 billion years ago to the super massive singularity that was the origin of time, there had to be a creator and I think that it was God. We evolved from there.

chopkins · #13 12-02-2007

See, people from differing views can come together on something!

As for the rightest professor, what department would they be in? Economics? Accounting? Did your Economic Professor 101 rail against the Holocaust? I do not think so. Only about 4% of professors identify themselves as Republican or conservative. I would say extreme rightist educators are an anomaly. Name one for me. No, it's the extreme left that is denying the holocaust across the board in Universitys. Notice right wing speakers at colleges are picketed and shouted down while crazy dictators are politely given a warm welcome, ie Iran's current religious dictator.

As for the Kentucky community that supported that museum, well that is kooky. I am sure there crazy other museums around the country. What about the UFO museums in Roswell?

**Bacchus** · #14 12-02-2007

Originally Posted by chopkins

Only about 4% of professors identify themselves as Republican or conservative. I would say extreme rightist educators are an anomaly. Name one for me. No, it's the extreme left that is denying the holocaust across the board in Universitys.

Across the board? Haha! I highly doubt that. I was a "professional student" for almost a decade in the northeast, south and southwest and I never had a professor decry the holocaust was fake - in any class. So I don't buy into this "across the board" conspiracy you speak of. That fact that you actually think that this is occurring is quite frightening.

Wait....are you a Faux News viewer? You better keep your Fox Noise watching to a minimum before you start thinking what they broadcast, and news, is the same thing!

What about the UFO museums in Roswell?

Well, unicorns are real and they have a museum!

chopkins · #15 12-02-2007

Well across the board is probably an overstatement and I do not think all professors are even talking about the Holocaust. What I meant to emphasize is that people propagandize extreme theories all the time. I did not get the information about Columbia's warm embrace of Iran's dictator from Roger Ailes, I saw it in the MSM. Heard it from actual live feed from their debate. Noticed the only boos and laughter from the audience came from when he denied he had gays in his society. They were not offended by the other crazy things he had to say.

As for Fox News, what is so wrong with this channel? Aren't you bright enough to disseminate information for yourself from their sinister agenda? Is it straight Daily Kos for you?

**Bacchus** · #16 12-02-2007

Originally Posted by chopkins

Well across the board is probably an overstatement and I do not think all professors are even talking about the Holocaust. What I meant to emphasize is that people propagandize extreme theories all the time. I did not get the information about Columbia's warm embrace of Iran's dictator from Roger Ailes, I saw it in the MSM. Heard it from actual live feed from their debate. Noticed the only boos and laughter from the audience came from when he denied he had gays in his society. They were not offended by the other crazy things he had to say.

As for Fox News, what is so wrong with this channel? Aren't you bright enough to disseminate information for yourself from their sinister agenda? Is it straight Daily Kos for you?

You mean Fox News Porn?

It is a hypocritical opinion network that plays itself off as news. I might be bright enough to get that, but many people are not and eat up the propaganda being served like it is somehow factual.

Fortunately, it is all "choir talk" as normal people don't watch that channel, only those predisposed to believe a rich conservative ~~Englishman's~~ Australian's lies.

So gas prices are up because Nancy Pelosi was picked by the Dems....I see! This is their daily job, you know? To distort everything and have no shame what-so-ever.

I read the Kos once in awhile, but only when they have really funny stuff like, "Fox Thinks Al Qeada Set the CA Fires!?"

I will give one thing to Faux News. They are extremely entertaining if you are in on the joke!