Real World Hollywood: Ep. 6 - Panties, Pranks & Thieves - Page 12

**Stacee_Danielle** · #89 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by V1man

I do so love your thought process.

In an early morning email today from an acquaintance inside BMP I read the following sentence. "Please tell me how you steal the girl from the gay guy."

The two of you may have a valid point, though arrived at separately. I'm going to require some cast consultation and a little pondering time on this question. There is a history on the Real World of "straight" guys who turned out to be otherwise.

Dang, I just re-read my post, I should have finished my redbull before posting it, but I am glad you could still decipher it, LOL

**Stacee_Danielle** · #90 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by yonkers22

I think that this is grasping as straws.

you would be in the minority with that thought.

yonkers22 · #91 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by stacee_danielle

you would be in the minority with that thought.

Ok...but there is no evidence to support the claim, at least not from what has been shown in the clips or on the dailies website. We are all making inferences to some degree but that seems a bit of stretch.

mayorga · #92 05-22-2008

I don't see how people can think Greg is the worse person in the house after this episode. Greg is a habitual liar who pulls real immature pranks; however, his antics are nothing compared to the other two guys in the house.

Dave pressured Joey to drink, even after Joey let him know that A) He didn't want to drink when he first came to the house, and B) He had a drinking problem. Although a lot of the blame goes to Joey for relapsing, Dave was the one who instigated the situation time and time again by enabling him to go out in the first place. Also, for all the talk about Greg not respecting women, what about Dave? He sleeps with ***im, then goes and sleeps with another girl when he knows how the racist feels about him. While the things Greg says may be offensive to women, Dave's actions are way worse. It was not Greg's place to say that the girl wasn't that hot, just like it isn't Dave's place to act like he's married to ***im and then go and bang other girls in front of her.

Will... I loved Will at the beginning, but we all knew he had some shadiness in him at the start with the way he handled the Brianna situation. He liked her and was pursuing her up until he found out she was a stripper. He went from all into her to disgusted by her to just being cool with her. Then he moved onto Sarah, who was already in a committed relationship. He tried to take her away from her boyfriend, just like he took Reva away from Greg. Greg may disrespect women, but Will uses them. No matter how much Greg may have put the roommates through, Will crossed all the lines when he talked about his dead father--- repeatedly. Insult the man, insult his principles, insult his childish antics, whatever, but to bring up a man's dead father and insult his memory? Will is akin Iago from Othello: shadiest character in history.

**Stacee_Danielle** · #93 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by yonkers22

Ok...but there is no evidence to support the claim, at least not from what has been shown in the clips or on the dailies website. We are all making inferences to some degree but that seems a bit of stretch.

I don't mean with the whole world, I mean with the posters on this site, as well as the man who knows him better than all of us, that person being Will who lived with him under the same roof for however long he lasted in the house. And I really don't think it is a stretch either with the way that he acts and presents himself.

Originally Posted by mayorga

I don't see how people can think Greg is the worse person in the house after this episode. Greg is a habitual liar who pulls real immature pranks; however, his antics are nothing compared to the other two guys in the house.

Dave pressured Joey to drink, even after Joey let him know that A) He didn't want to drink when he first came to the house, and B) He had a drinking problem. Although a lot of the blame goes to Joey for relapsing, Dave was the one who instigated the situation time and time again by enabling him to go out in the first place. Also, for all the talk about Greg not respecting women, what about Dave? He sleeps with ***im, then goes and sleeps with another girl when he knows how the racist feels about him. While the things Greg says may be offensive to women, Dave's actions are way worse. It was not Greg's place to say that the girl wasn't that hot, just like it isn't Dave's place to act like he's married to ***im and then go and bang other girls in front of her.

Dave has shown remorse and growth for that situation...Greg has not.

Originally Posted by mayorga

Will... I loved Will at the beginning, but we all knew he had some shadiness in him at the start with the way he handled the Brianna situation. He liked her and was pursuing her up until he found out she was a stripper. He went from all into her to disgusted by her to just being cool with her. Then he moved onto Sarah, who was already in a committed relationship. He tried to take her away from her boyfriend, just like he took Reva away from Greg. Greg may disrespect women, but Will uses them. No matter how much Greg may have put the roommates through, Will crossed all the lines when he talked about his dead father--- repeatedly. Insult the man, insult his principles, insult his childish antics, whatever, but to bring up a man's dead father and insult his memory? Will is akin Iago from Othello: shadiest character in history.

I can see your point on this

yonkers22 · #94 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by stacee_danielle

I don't mean with the whole world, I mean with the posters on this site, as well as the man who knows him better than all of us, that person being Will who lived with him under the same roof for however long he lasted in the house. And I really don't think it is a stretch either with the way that he acts and presents himself.

I don't remember talking about the whole world in my post, I responding to your post.

Wills opinion will definitely be skewed and far more subjective than what mtv is showing on the dailies and on tv. Sure there subjectiveness in the form of selective editing but I think MTV doing well with the dailies to give fuller context to discussion/interactions between house members. How you act in front of the camera's shows as much about you, if not more than what you do when they aren't there, which is all the more poignant given how irrationally Will has acted in this episode and the following and the massive character change he seems to have undergone following some silly pranks.

yonkers22 · #95 05-22-2008

Originally Posted by mayorga

I don't see how people can think Greg is the worse person in the house after this episode. Greg is a habitual liar who pulls real immature pranks; however, his antics are nothing compared to the other two guys in the house.

Dave pressured Joey to drink, even after Joey let him know that A) He didn't want to drink when he first came to the house, and B) He had a drinking problem. Although a lot of the blame goes to Joey for relapsing, Dave was the one who instigated the situation time and time again by enabling him to go out in the first place. Also, for all the talk about Greg not respecting women, what about Dave? He sleeps with ***im, then goes and sleeps with another girl when he knows how the racist feels about him. While the things Greg says may be offensive to women, Dave's actions are way worse. It was not Greg's place to say that the girl wasn't that hot, just like it isn't Dave's place to act like he's married to ***im and then go and bang other girls in front of her.

Will... I loved Will at the beginning, but we all knew he had some shadiness in him at the start with the way he handled the Brianna situation. He liked her and was pursuing her up until he found out she was a stripper. He went from all into her to disgusted by her to just being cool with her. Then he moved onto Sarah, who was already in a committed relationship. He tried to take her away from her boyfriend, just like he took Reva away from Greg. Greg may disrespect women, but Will uses them. No matter how much Greg may have put the roommates through, Will crossed all the lines when he talked about his dead father--- repeatedly. Insult the man, insult his principles, insult his childish antics, whatever, but to bring up a man's dead father and insult his memory? Will is akin Iago from Othello: shadiest character in history.

I agree with all of this. Really great post.

**Bacchus** · #96 05-22-2008

Wills opinion will definitely be skewed and far more subjective than what mtv is showing on the dailies and on tv

Shocker! You are saying that Will sees things differently then the selective dramatic edit of reality for a television show that we are all commenting on? Unbelievable. I am floored.

I am quite surprised how much angst is being projected toward Will over next week's episode, when in fact - not one person here has seen it. Not even the cast has seen it yet.

The only thing we have is a clip on dallies to stir the blogsphere and bring eyeballs to the table. Who would believe that MTV would take things out of context in order to make it as buzzworthy as possible? It is not like they are running a business over there at Viacom...

There are details to this story that I can not yet elaborate on. I can't promise they will make the MTV cut, but they will be known one way or another. I think everyone should take a step back and wait before coming to conclusions based on incomplete evidence.