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The Real World The Real World, is a reality TV series first broadcast in 1992. The show is the longest-running program in MTV history. Now in its 20th season in Hollywood, California.

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Old 05-16-2008
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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

I understand the argument as you have just presented it. The real issue here is: Does the original copyright holder defer their rights when signing the digital agreement saying they are giving up said rights with Facebook, Myspace et al?

I think that Facebook and Newscorp would argue, yes.

That being said, your website images are copyrighted (as you stated) in a for profit venture. The law is quite clear here (as Perez Hilton recently found out when taking images from photo services without paying royalties) and the current holder of the rights to the image was never in question. Thus your speedy work in coming to an amicable agreement (having the pictures removed.) Had you (the rights owner) posted that image to myspace and then found yourself in a similar situation - the path would not have been as clear.

I think there would be a flimsy argument to state that this image of Sarah in being displayed, dilutes the value of the original copyright holders possession (which is the argument that you could have obviously made) because the truth is there is no inherent value to the image other then a valid suppliment to the Devil/Angel news story that we are telling about this willfully public figure.


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Ashley Dupree's blood sucking lawyers current business model is to sue their way to profit via copyright law - although it sounds like a losing battle.

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Old 05-16-2008
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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

Dang all these big word are giving me a headache this early in the morning


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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

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I understand the argument as you have just presented it. The real issue here is: Does the original copyright holder defer their rights when signing the digital agreement saying they are giving up said rights with Facebook, Myspace et al?

I think that Facebook and Newscorp would argue, yes.

That being said, your website images are copyrighted (as you stated) in a for profit venture. The law is quite clear here (as Perez Hilton recently found out when taking images from photo services without paying royalties) and the current holder of the rights to the image was never in question. Thus your speedy work in coming to an amicable agreement (having the pictures removed.) Had you (the rights owner) posted that image to myspace and then found yourself in a similar situation - the path would not have been as clear.

I think there would be a flimsy argument to state that this image of Sarah in being displayed, dilutes the value of the original copyright holders possession (which is the argument that you could have obviously made) because the truth is there is no inherent value to the image other then a conduit to the mockery which we will now be able to bestow on our favorite little devil.


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Ashley Dupree's blood sucking lawyers current business model is to sue their way to profit via copyright law - although it sounds like a losing battle.
Re Ms Dupree:


How to determine the probability of winning or losing an intellectual property case:

If your attorney says he will do it for billable hours -- you will lose

If the firm offers you a contingency fee arrangement -- buy that vacation package in the Cayman Islands. You will win.


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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

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Re Ms Dupree:


How to determine the probability of winning or losing an intellectual property case:

If your attorney says he will do it for billable hours -- you will lose

If the firm offers you a contingency fee arrangement -- buy that vacation package in the Cayman Islands. You will win.


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So True...and if you get a public defender, get your affairs in order quick, LOL.


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If the firm offers you a contingency fee arrangement -- buy that vacation package in the Cayman Islands. You will win.
I think she actually has a fighting chance concerning Girls Gone Wild (at least in gaining a settlement) although suing the media en masse for "ripping" her myspace pages is only going to further the punchline status of her representation.


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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

So I just caught up w/ this ep last night. A few things:
Sarah and Kim need to get off their high horse!! I am sooo sick of their crap with worrying about Bri!! (and I think that was my big rant w/ last weeks episode so I'll let it go....)

Why was it not a big deal for Kim and Dave to do it in the same room as Sarah but not Bri? I mean, you either mind it or you don't. It shouldn't depend on the person/people.

I hope Will does good on his music. Those beats he played for Sticky Fingers were awesome. The kind of stuff I could totally hear on the radio today. It's good that he can find a good balance between keeping his "work" obligations at IO, and actively (ahem...Bri) working on his dream of music.

Aside from Bri's past problems and addictions, there's something about her that makes me think she is more mature than Kim or Sarah. I don't know, I can't think of anything specific now....but there were several points in the episode where I thought she had it more together than those two.

Oh and this is from last week too....but I LOVED when Bri was on the phone w/ her mom and talking about Bobby and her mom's like "BRI, KNOCK IT OFF". Oh my goodness if I havn't heard that same tone in my mom's voice when I needed to be snapped out of it!! I just really liked that part. I hope she listens to her mom


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I hope Will does good on his music. Those beats he played for Sticky Fingers were awesome. The kind of stuff I could totally hear on the radio today. It's good that he can find a good balance between keeping his "work" obligations at IO, and actively (ahem...Bri) working on his dream of music.
And I have to give Will credit for trying to pursue his dreams while there. I think this is the third instance of him doing such (playing music on the streets in the premiere, handing out demos at a promo party on another episode, and now this). I thought I was going to roll my eyes at this kid the whole season, but he's proved me wrong.

And props to Greg for pursuing modeling, though I think he's not that great at it. (And I had to laugh seeing this guy sitting back and getting a pedicure! That was too funny.)

I've heard Brianna's songs on her MySpace page and they're pretty decent. I just hope and pray she gets off her butt and starts pursuing this goal more. And I agree with Will---nix the smoking. Madam ReRe may be the Queen of Soul, but even she had that nasty habit of smoking which gave her health problems in the long run.

What have Sarah, Kim and Dave (almost forgot his name) done to pursue their goals since moving there? If Kim wants to work for E!, why hasn't she written a cover letter and sent a resume to them? Why hasn't Sarah contacted any news stations if she wants to be a reporter? And Dave, well, why hasn't he done crap? Lazy!


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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

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Why was it not a big deal for Kim and Dave to do it in the same room as Sarah but not Bri? I mean, you either mind it or you don't. It shouldn't depend on the person/people.
There are only 2 reasons I can think of... Either she was already asleep whn they did it OR it is a race/class thing...Sarah has double standards, but what else is new.


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There are only 2 reasons I can think of... Either she was already asleep whn they did it OR it is a race/class thing...Sarah has double standards, but what else is new.
Yeah...because Bri's dirty and she might catch the ghetto!
(insert sarcasm anywhere.)


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Re: Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes

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Yeah...because Bri's dirty and she might catch the ghetto!
(insert sarcasm anywhere.)
exactly...

(but honestly I would be scared of airborne bacteria from HoHo...I would not want to breathe the same air he was ***king in...So it is quite possible that I would get pissed as well.)


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