Real World Hollywood: Ep. 5 - Music & Messes - Page 4

**Phoenix** · #31 05-15-2008

Posted By Dartagnan:
Overall a good episode.

I agree. I think that every episode has been really good so far. It's weird because I didn't expect to like this season at all, and I have ended up liking it real well. Can't wait for the next episode.

Dartagnan · #32 05-15-2008

Originally Posted by Pheonix12

I agree. I think that every episode has been really good so far. It's weird because I didn't expect to like this season at all, and I have ended up liking it real well. Can't wait for the next episode.

Me too. The next episode should be amazing. This season has really wow'd me since the last season was so terrible. Except for Parisa.

I loved how Sarah just hid Brianna's things under the dock. There is always an outcast every season and Brianna seems to be the one. And Greg.

Overall, Greg seems to be nice but then a jerk. He has shown change but then cancels it out with deciding to ditch Charna's lesson.

EastNY · #33 05-15-2008

Originally Posted by Brittaney05

I realize that many others here dislike Greg and i could care less. I was not calling anyone immature for disliking Greg. Everyone is completely entitled to hate or like someone. I was merely stating the fact that your posts about it are immature.

and she continues to call my posts immature

some ppl that come on here make me wanna

**Bacchus** · #34 05-15-2008

Originally Posted by EastNY

and she continues to call my posts immature

some ppl that come on here make me wanna

Press the mental "ignore button."

I did weeks ago.

simply bored · #35 05-15-2008

Originally Posted by EastNY

and she continues to call my posts immature

some ppl that come on here make me wanna

lol. well i actually agree with you. i wouldn't buy those clothes either, if i was a guy. Not just because i dont like Greg, but he's simply just a terrible model. He 's so bad it makes the clothes look bad. If that makes me look immature so be it, its my opinion and im sticking to it.

EastNY · #36 05-16-2008

thanks bacchus I think im going to buy that button at target

first its q on myspace and now its brittaney on here

lol why meeeeeeeeeee!

realitywedding · #37 05-16-2008

Can't we all just get along?

**V1man** · #38 05-16-2008

Originally Posted by Bacchus

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Irrespective of what Facebook publishes as its "policy," it does not supersede Federal Law. Is Sarah wishes to claim ownership under the DMCA, then she has every right to do so. I chase down intellectual property rights violations all the time and have not lost one case since 2000.

**Bacchus** · #39 05-16-2008

Originally Posted by V1man

Irrespective of what Facebook publishes as its "policy," it does not supersede Federal Law. Is Sarah wishes to claim ownership under the DMCA, then she has every right to do so. I chase down intellectual property rights violations all the time and have not lost one case since 2000.

Actually I question the veracity of the argument. How can it be a DMCA violation when you take your property and place it on someone else's property and digitally sign where it says - I am giving you this property. That sounds to me like it is binding (although I am not a lawyer.) I have a feeling if Facebook wanted to make coffee mugs with this image (for profit) it would be well within their rights.. We will eventually see legal challenges to this online model and licensing, but to date there have not been any significant judgments to speak of (because it would be very expensive and you would probably lose.)

You have argued many DMCA cases successfully, but I doubt you have argued any where the copyright holder has passed on the rights. Even if it is not binding, Facebook would not want to lose such a case (as it would put their entire business model and website and jeopardy) and I am sure that you would be greeted by the calvary of lawyers that they have available. So I guess you have to decide if it is worth it.

It is not like this image was taken from a personal website. It was willfully given to Facebook and displayed publicly.

That being said, I am using it under the Fair Use Doctrine in supplement to a news story on a public figure, just as CNN (and a hundreds of other news organizations) put up pictures of Ashley Alexandra Dupre from her myspace page (which has almost identical content copyright policies to Facebook) when the story on Elliot Spitzer broke a few months ago.

**V1man** · #40 05-16-2008

Intellectual property law is a hot mess. Were I on the other side of the question, I would take your position. I'm not. The law is just so much fun!

Earlier this week, a news organization published on its web site a picture of a reality person recently in the news. They cited Fair Use doctrine in copying the image from a reality site that had pirated the original image from our web site which is clearly copyright labeled and image protected. Quite simply, the image was hacked by the reality site (imagine the dishonor). I spent several hours tracking down the offending parties, going through the motions of the DMCA cease and desist process and providing a list of precedent cases. With one phone call, the hosting ISP gave up the reality site owner's contact info. Six hours later the offending images were removed and the Fair Use argument never tested in court. We were fully ready to litigate with very expensive outside counsel. Bottom line: I take it personally when someone steals my property and I have the resources to be very nasty about it.

PS, I think Sarah is cute in the pic. I may just copy it to my personal file...