Thread: The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Going Insane

Originally Posted by prototype

The thing is Johnny and Ev are friends now. JEK does it to make an entertaining show. Outside of the show, they are well liked and hangs out with 95% of the alums. I don't go on twitter but it sounds like Frank and Zach are actually how they are portrayed on tv. It sounds like they are only liked by the alliance they had in this season.

I don't think Johnny and Ev are friends though. And Johnny even admits his behavior on the Island challenge was disgusting. I think it took him seeing himself on tv and the horrible response he got from fans that led to him toning it down on cutthroat. And his Island behavior wasn't for show. It was real. I think Johnny's ego is bigger than Frank and Zach combined. That's why CT turning him into a backpack was so great.

Kenny and Evan walk around on challenges all arrogant too. So it's not like they are any better than these rookies in that regard. And they can say incredibly mean things on challenges and off on podcasts. People have complained about that in the past. But the grass is always greener. People slways complain about the current people in our face and long for the old ones. Remember all the talk about fresh meat ruining the challenges and being sick of them and longing for Coral / Veronica/ etc.? People are doing the same thing with different people now.

And people talk about Zach s one liners being forced. I kind of agree. But I felt the same about Evan on the shows. He always sounded scripted. Was not surprised to that he writes his lines and rehearses them before interviews. Now Kenny can be funny and I agree that he is a character for the shows (like wes). I think Rivals is the closest we got to seeing the real him.

Originally Posted by Camille

I don't think Johnny and Ev are friends though. And Johnny even admits his behavior on the Island challenge was disgusting. I think it took him seeing himself on tv and the horrible response he got from fans that led to him toning it down on cutthroat. And his Island behavior wasn't for show. It was real. I think Johnny's ego is bigger than Frank and Zach combined. That's why CT turning him into a backpack was so great.

Kenny and Evan walk around on challenges all arrogant too. So it's not like they are any better than these rookies in that regard. And they can say incredibly mean things on challenges and off on podcasts. People have complained about that in the past. But the grass is always greener. People slways complain about the current people in our face and long for the old ones. Remember all the talk about fresh meat ruining the challenges and being sick of them and longing for Coral / Veronica/ etc.? People are doing the same thing with different people now.

And people talk about Zach s one liners being forced. I kind of agree. But I felt the same about Evan on the shows. He always sounded scripted. Was not surprised to that he writes his lines and rehearses them before interviews. Now Kenny can be funny and I agree that he is a character for the shows (like wes). I think Rivals is the closest we got to seeing the real him.

I remember after Rivals, Johnny and Ev went to a MTV awards show and Ev said they were cool with each other. Also on Rivals, Ev was one of the first ones to go up to Johnny to hug him and celebrate with him after beating CT and Adam.

The way JEK does it on challenges and podcast is called busting people's balls. Men do that just to joke around with another. I just checked Frank's twitter and it seems he is still attacking people personally even though the show is over.

I don't think Johnny is as bad as Frank at all. Frank attacks people personally and some of the stuff he has written on twitter is disgusting and it is to people who used to be his friends. Everyone on past seasons all say Johnny isn't that bad, he just has a big mouth. Katie Doyle for example always says how she loves Johnny outside the show. There is a lot of people this season who strongly dislike Frank outside the show still. Nany was one of his good friends and he treated her like dirt on the challenge according to the after show. Frank is way too emotional and if someone says one thing to him, he says low blows and doesn't stop.

Zach, I don't think is that bad after listening to him on Derrick's podcast.

I really hate that in this episode people keep saying that Alton and Trishelle are old. It irritates me. I'm 19 years old and I don't consider them to be old at all. Alton's like 32 and Trishelle's like 30 or 31. I think that is the dumbest thing in the world, maybe add ten more years to them and I could see the old joke but not now...being 4 or 5 years older than someone doesn't make them old. And Alton needs to stop calling people kids, it's annoying and just adds to the old jokes...like seriously, stop it. No one on this challenge is old...geez. And Frank is annoying.

Just watched the episode again. I don't really unterstand why people are bashing Alton, because he didn't back up his talk. He wanted to go in the arena, but clearly his teammates didn't want him in the arena, because they thought there was a possibility that he would lose on purpose so either Trishelle or Nany would have gone home. I think they convinced Dustin to do it, because they knew Dustin would fight, but they weren't sure about Alton. I don't really blame Alton for anything. LV would have gone in the arena regardless, because of the beef between Alton/Zach/Frank.

Originally Posted by GDInstall

Just watched the episode again. I dont really unterstand why people are bashing Alton, because he didnt back up his talk. He wanted to go in the arena, but clearly his teammates didnt want him in the arena, because they though there was a possibility that he would lose on purpose so either Trishelle or Nany would have gone home. I think they convinced Dustin to do it, because they knew Dustin would fight, but they wasnt sure about Alton. I dont really blame Alton for anything. LV would have gone in the arena regardless, because of the beef between Alton/Zach/Frank.

People are bashing Alton because he didn't play the game the way they wanted. Brandon on a podcast talks smack but then reveals Alton is the one that got rid of him, Trishelle talking while sucking on Frank and Zach. The funny thing is, if you're cool with frank and call anyone else's mental facilities into question, you're probably an idiot. It's funny how much you hear all this stuff that happened off camera, yeah, because I'm sure Alton posses production off so much that they then went out of their way to make him look good on camera. Meanwhile, frank is a good guy regardless of what we've seen on 2 seasons, what we see on his Twitter, etc. they know he won't talk back cuz it's not worth it