Thread: The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - The Perks of Being a Rookie

Originally Posted by Nostalgic

Wow the opening credits are getting worse and worse. Last good one was D2.

You mean the Duel 2? That Intro was terrible. easily the worst in the history in this show.

This one was the best they've had in years...and I liked that they used each season's original quote...really nice touch. And did anyone notice that Dustin was rubbing on Alton's chest in the intro? That one made me LOL.

Originally Posted by kvm1977

Jonna's far closer than Marie to that level at least at this point. Jonna works the game at all times. Marie may be able to do that but hasn't shown that thus far. Maybe that falls on her teammates but Jonna's running Cancun. I have no idea who's running St Thomas. None of them seem to be able to take control.

Adding: Jonna may be running 4 teams right now. I'm sure someone on Vegas will end that at some point but she, not Frank, is the person in charge through 2 episodes.

I said I could eventually see Marie being a female Coral. Didn't say she was right now. I don't think Jonna is running anything, she is hooking up with Zach who is on the winning team. She is good in challenges but does that mean she's running things? No.

I don't think you can compare anyone on this challenge to Coral or Veronica. I like the fresh faces but they will never be the veterans we want them to be. Completely different people, different challenge era imo.

Originally Posted by Debut Album

You mean the Duel 2? That Intro was terrible. easily the worst in the history in this show.

This one was the best they've had in years...and I liked that they used each season's original quote...really nice touch. And did anyone notice that Dustin was rubbing on Alton's chest in the intro? That one made me LOL.

Cutthroat > Every other.
I loved the euro trash techno, and the soviet propaganda theme.

Originally Posted by molds13

I thought the intro was pretty good, I like how they used the sound clips from their original season.

Minus Fresh Meat, because they didn't have one. That was just an awkward clip of them saying "FRESH MEAT GRRRRR" or something like that.

I also liked the intro. I definitely liked the intro clips from the original season. LOL at Fresh Meat not having past sound clips.

Originally Posted by tjhallow

I have no problem with rookies winning and doing well but "Rookie Revolution" is a joke. Its basically an all rookie challenge and the most of the vets seemed to have already sold their souls to San Diego. Why, I have no clue.

I didn't mind Frank but he lost me as soon as he said Rookie Revolution. I literally sat and stared at the TV for like five minutes. And then when he started picking on St. Thomas (And I don't care for them at all) he completely lost me.

Seriously. You're not really amazing because most of the people/teams are rookies. And LOL at Frank, from the season before St. Thomas, acting like he's been around so much longer than them. Beyond St. Thomas having not aired before this season, Frank was practically in the same boat, seeing as he and his season hadn't done a challenge before. A few of these rookies already sound entitled, which is interesting since they are new or practically new.

This challenge is just kind of a fresh start. It's time to create new challenge "stars." Yes, it is better to usher them in on a challenge that has a lot of known people (i.e. BOTS2 & G2), but at the point the challenges got with some of the constant returnees for the past five or six years, I don't mind seeing all these new people - especially in a "team of your season" format. Plus having a couple of past vets who hadn't been on in years was kind of fresh, too. Yes, they are vets, but they come from a different era, and they've been out of it for so many years and only did a challenge with each other and one other person (Alton with Danny). So they weren't in the position to really come in and start running things. Maybe Alton could have tried to rally people up because strong performing vet guys tend to be respected, but still, not knowing these people would not have made it the easiest thing. Plus he hasn't been so much a big alliance guy.

I just hope they start spreading around the screen time to some other people. Obviously, love him or hate him, Frank is a conversation piece and is a new star. If he continues to speak so arrogantly during his interviews, I'll suspect he will have a fall at some point. Or, at least, have a big opposition. Zach and Trey have been highlighted, too. Jonna. I suspect these people will keep getting some screen time, as they should if they are major players in this season. But hopefully some of those other people that some of us don't know from the last few seasons (since we didn't watch) will get a little bit of screen time. Just use them in a interview so we at least get to see them. Like old times - someone may not have done much of anything to get attention, but they would at least show them here and there in an interview or explaining the rules (even though the rules thing was redundant). I don't know if the challenges will be renewed after this season, but it does feel like a rebuilding season, and if the challenges get another season, I think the key people on this one will be invited back, and the show will feel a little refreshed overall.


OMG, I've seen two different previews for this next episode now! I'm surprised. Actual effort.

Originally Posted by tjhallow

I said I could eventually see Marie being a female Coral. Didn't say she was right now. I don't think Jonna is running anything, she is hooking up with Zach who is on the winning team. She is good in challenges but does that mean she's running things? No.

I don't think you can compare anyone on this challenge to Coral or Veronica. I like the fresh faces but they will never be the veterans we want them to be. Completely different people, different challenge era imo.

I'm sorry I started this argument. I guess I could have been a bit clearer on my thought regarding Jonna. Those bullets points were literally thoughts going through my head as I was watching the episode.

I meant that I got a vibe from Jonna that she was developing into a challenge queen/vet like Coral or Veronica. I didn't mean that I felt she was currently one. This is her second challenge, after all. I liked the idea that she would develop into someone who was in the inner circle and would make game-changing calls. She definitely gave me that vibe last week.

In the first episode, she was kind of taking control of the Frank/Zach/Sam meltdown - like when she said "Sam, don't say that. Stop it" or whatever it was. But she clearly had some type of a handle on that situation. When Cancun made the decision to throw Austin into elimination, I know it was mainly the bad blood between CJ and Wes that factored into that choice, but I still get this idea that Jonna is pulling some strings behind the curtain.

On episode 2 we saw her helping with decision making and it's pretty apparent San Diego and Cancun will be the dominant alliance this season.

So once again, I apologize for igniting the argument about Jonna being like Coral and Veronica. Hopefully that made it a little more clear.


I will say that I haven't gotten that vibe from Marie yet - though she's my favorite St. Thomas team member and I would also love to see her find her way into the inner circle, though I doubt that will happen on this season.

Well said CzarEric--I completely agree with the breakdown