Yes.. but he was on Room Raiders! lol

I think they both made very good points. I kinda agree with Tonya though. Kenny said they made that mistake with the Eric situation.. However, people aren't considering the format of the challenge. If the weak people will be left behind.. then who cares anyway. It's not like you have to bring everyone along with u... I think they are stuck in the team mindset for some reason. Of course, we don't really know how things are going to play out. I could be totally off.

note: I didn't finished reading Bacchus' post or I would have noticed that he made the same observation lol

Hahaha, really?

P.S. I agree about all the Tonya stuff. They should've kept her.

yep... and he won. (if anyone could find the link to his specific episode.. i'd be forever grateful. i need a good laugh)


I think this is a very young cast and they just aren't thinking long term yet. They're having fun.. and right now they'd rather hangout with Kenny than Tonya.

Don't you remember high school? They want to be part of the "cool crowd".

after thought: Ev made a good point in saying she doesn't want to piss people off.. but I don't think many people would really be that sad to see Kenny go. Most of the new kids barely know him... with the exception of MAYBE Paula and Johnny.. I don't think people would care so much. I could be wrong though.

Great write-up D!! I fell asleep early that night but I feel like I saw it now! lol

I cannot stand Kenny or really any of the Fresh Meat kids for that matter. Him and Evelyn bug the hell out of me. I think it's funny that Evelyn is the only true full-blown lesbian and who do you see making out? Rachel & Jenn!! On the Chicago season, Tonya was my favourite only behind Chris and Keri. Then she started doing these challenges & I lost any kind of sympathy or liking I had for her. This challenge, she definitely was my favorite and of course she gets the ax right away. I thought that was pretty cool that Derrick voted for Tonya to stay, but I'm guessing it was most likely a sympathy vote. I don't even know who I'm rooting for on this challenge. There are so many d-bags, and I don't particularly care for many of the kids from the new seasons. I mean the earliest season of the Real World represented was the eleventh. In a way I think these challenges almost ruin the authenticity of the shows. Castmembers know there is an option of doing challenges and I think it kinda taints everything. None of my favorites seem to do challenges--except for Genesis, who did a couple.

Johanna seems like such a cool girl, why does she have such bad taste in men? Wes? Kenny? And Kenny REALLY isn't as hot as he thinks he is. He's a douche.

It's not that I didn't think the episode was entertaining, but these challenges are losing momentum for me. They just aren't as interesting as they used to be. There are 20 castmembers, and I find myself waiting for all these dumbasses to get done with their stupidity to see maybe at best the 4 castmembers I can stand.

Why-if I may ask? There's nothing fair about having a condition that is normally regulated by meds, then having it taken away from you and being forced to deal. That's just me.

Oh, God. Here we go. Its barely the first episode of the season and Kenny and Johnny are already getting in my nerves. It sucks that both of them make it to the end; I really dislike them! And again the whole "lets get rid of the girls thing" -- those two annoy me the most.

And I cant believe everyone is letting some loser that wasn't even on the Real World or Road Rules run the show. To me Derrick and Abe are real leaders!

Now to Johanna: is it me or on this challenge he has changed a lot. To me she seems so slutty on this challenge; anyhow, that's my thought!

And I have a maybe good point. How does Kelly Ann send Rachel home? Maybe what's going to happen is the same thing that happen with Tonya. They will get rid of a true veteran, all the rookies will gang up to send Rachel home!

First.. I'd like to start by saying.. Abe? Really? At least Kenny and Johnny don't physically assualt people.

Second.. Johanna... maybe she's always been slutty but faithful.. and this time she's actually single.. OR.. maybe she's just trying to win by kissie facing someone she thinks will drag her along. OR... maybe she's just having fun with a friend. WHO KNOWS?!

Third.. I'd rather see KA go home than Rachel. I hope that's not true.

I agree with you on Derrick though. (Derrick, if you read this.. CALL ME.)